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Quitting College and going to Cosmetology school...

gloeek

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I am thinking about quitting college and going to a good Cosmetology school here in Florida, however I am about to recieve my degree (AA) in a little more than a year and I don't know if I should just finish with my AA until next December or just drop out and go to Cosmetology school. I really want to do hair for my profession so it seems pointless to keep going to college and wasting my time and money. What do you think?
 
U mean there is a degree for hair? Yet another way of the system sucking money out of those wanting an education in the US. If i lived there i dont think i would go to college. Too expensive. I spose my advice would be to finish what it is that u r doing. Never heard of cosmetology, although it must have something to do with cosmetics??
 
Cosmetology school is essentially beauty school. School for learning how to do hair, makeup, nails, massages, ect. It doesn't recieve a degree just a certificate. You have to go to actual college to get any degrees. Not just career training school.
 
Ah ok then. Well i guess a degree would be better bcoz if u want to change careers later u can use ur first degree as a basis to start another degree (u can do that here anyway) right? If ur that far through whats one more year gonna hurt, unless ur in a massive hurry to study cosmetics?
 
I am currently getting my degree in jounalism, mainly because I'm a good writer and it interests me, but I have no clue what I am going to do with the degree. Teach? I mean, it interests me, but before I started college I really wanted to go to cosmetology school. However, I didn't because everyone was saying how it was such a waste of my intelligence and how I wouldn't really be giving back to anyone. It's what I have wanted to do for a long time though. I'm good at it, it pays a lot, and I love doing it. I have been doing hair on myself forever, cutting and dying and before that I did it on my barbies. It's really what I want to do, so I feel like I am wasting my time in college.
 
Well the only real advantage to staying and getting the degree would be for pride and accomplishment. Do you think it would feel good having a piece of paper hanging on your wall to remind you that you accomplished something a lot of people have not? Would this smooth over relations with your family to a level which would be meaningful (in terms of them not hating the cosmetology idea as much...)?

If you do have a lot of outstanding debt from college, then that's also another factor Having a degree, any degree, is always a bit of security in the world. Meaning you could work a better job whilst at cosmetology school, or have something as backup if something comes up in the future (say you develop some type of physical disability, which precludes you from cutting hair...a dog bites off your good hand or something...I don't know).

But we have a member here, lacey k, who I believe used to be doing cosmetology school until the law got the best of her. But still, you might want to PM her if you have questions. She's a mod in Drug Culture.

Personally, I think journalism is one of those fields that one must have a passion for, or it just won't work. So if you aren't really enjoying it, I would seriously think about getting out. People say you should do what you love in life, right?
 
i always wanted to be a hair stylist!!! i still say it all the time :) i was expected to go to school, and get a quote on quote "real job" - but a part of me still regrets it, and now i feel like i would be way too old to go back and do it all over - - so i say go for it!
 
I'm a mortician and have gained a real respect for cosmetology----ps, does this thread remind anyone of the movie grease
 
It sounds to me like cosmetology is for you. Kind of a no brainer really. I mean, you could use your degree for things other than teaching, but you seem like you know what you want to do, and the only thing stopping you is a desire to conform to other people's expectations. I think a lot of people would be jealous of how sure you are about the kind of career that is for you, and it seems like you could be really successful. So good luck! :)


Off topic:

Congratulations for getting a real job instead of wasting away in academia.

Is this the only thing you have to contribute to this forum? All I ever see from you here is posts about how higher education is a waste of time and people should go and get a "real job," whatever that is. I'm an academic and I don't go around patronising people who don't want to go to university. I respect that decision and I acknowledge that a good society includes diversity, that people have diverse priorities which all contribute to their having meaningful lives and contributing to society. But you seem to have this massive chip on your shoulder about higher education, seemingly stemming from the view that it is all a big wank. Your doctor, your lawyer, your teacher, the jouranlists you read and the people who designed the computer you use to browse this form all went to university and were taught by academics who dedicated their lives to coming up with new knowledge. So maybe you should chill out a little on the "real job" bullshit.
 
Go for it! :)
Trade School is definitely the way to go, and don't let anyone make you think differently!
 
I respect that decision and I acknowledge that a good society includes diversity, that people have diverse priorities which all contribute to their having meaningful lives and contributing to society
My sentiments, expressed more eloquently than I could manage.
 
I lean towards the idea that you should get the degree. This is why.

It's wonderful that you seem to know what you want to do, and I agree that you should pursue it.

However, sometimes our plans or preferences change. A profession that may have interested us at one time in our lives may, for various reasons, interest us less, become unavailable, etc. So it can be important, especially earlier in your life, to have backup plans.

A good way of thinking about this is PACE. Primary, alternate, contingency, emergency. Cosmetician is your primary plan. And that's awesome. But suppose one day you find that it's not what you thought? That it's not enough? That you decide you really want to teach? That the income/uncertainty isn't sufficient for your family? etc.

So what's the alternate? Let's say teaching. You'll need a degree. As you go forward in life, your responsibilities will accumulate. You may have familial responsibilities, debt associated with a home, and so forth. It becomes increasingly difficult to go back to school.

At this point in your life, though, it's much easier. You are already in a degree program, and are only a year away. Finishing the degree will give you a better ground should you at some point decide on an alternate plan to being a cosmetician, and will make that plan much easier to carry forward.

Finally, remember that employers will look at whether you have a degree beyond high school. It's a mark that you were able to complete the program, that you're reasonably intelligent, and that you can handle responsibility. So having the degree on your resume, particularly if you finish with a good GPA, will aid you in ANY career. Further, if you lack any degree beyond high school, it will signal to any employer that you don't have many other options, which will reduce your bargaining power and perhaps lower your earnings over your lifetime.

My advice therefore is to finish the degree now, while the cost of doing so is lowest and you are most able to do so. A year is a fairly short period of time. In that year, crush your remaining classes. Put your heart into it, get the best grades you can, and then become a cosmetician. The degree, even if it is in a subject unrelated, is an achievement nonetheless that will aid you in any career, and will become especially important if you decide to change careers, as many people do.
 
I agree 100% with Heuristic, and just to add... If admission to your school of choice ever becomes an issue, the person with an existing degree is going to get a seat over someone without one.

The only reason I got into University is because I went and got an associates degree first. I was a high school dropout. I never would've gotten my foot in the door otherwise, but I proved to the University that I had some academic chops. Go get that piece of paper.
 
Is this the only thing you have to contribute to this forum?

I do sound a bit like a broken record, don't I? I suppose my "default answer" for questions like "College is bumming me out, what should I do?" is "Get a job or go to trade school."

I wonder if there's some way to leave that as my "signature"?
 
^ Maybe there's a little defensiveness there? I remember being mildly surprised to learn that you left college after reading some of your posts in the Science forum; and then I reflected that my surprise may in itself betray a certain kind of prejudice. If you do encounter it, then that prejudice must grate sometimes.

Although if the OP were studying... I don't know... French social theory... then I think your comments would be dead on. :)
 
I lean towards the idea that you should get the degree. This is why.

Finally, remember that employers will look at whether you have a degree beyond high school. It's a mark that you were able to complete the program, that you're reasonably intelligent, and that you can handle responsibility. So having the degree on your resume, particularly if you finish with a good GPA, will aid you in ANY career. Further, if you lack any degree beyond high school, it will signal to any employer that you don't have many other options, which will reduce your bargaining power and perhaps lower your earnings over your lifetime.

Gloeek, you will be doing yourself an enormous favor, whatever your future plans in life may be, by finishing that AA.

I am the proud holder of an AA from a wonderful Florida community college where I had a much better experience than at university! Mine is in psych. We had small classes (although I tested out of a lot of the lecture-type ones), got a lot of individual attention, and our college was funded very generously and has loads of successful graduates in all fields. Study skills and university-level work were the norm in the AA/AS programs (trades were taught there as well). I was well-prepared for university once I moved on to that.

I didn't get into debt over it, either.

You can go to ANY community college in Florida, so if you want to get out of your comfort zone, maybe a change of scenery is in order. PM me if you'd like the name of my college. I loved going to school there and would recommend it to anyone. If you do well, you're guaranteed a place in pretty much any state university program (in FL) as well. :)

Good luck whatever you choose to do, but I can't recommend getting that AA highly enough. It will be a stepping stone for so many things and get you higher pay whatever you do.
 
^ Maybe there's a little defensiveness there? I remember being mildly surprised to learn that you left college after reading some of your posts in the Science forum; and then I reflected that my surprise may in itself betray a certain kind of prejudice. If you do encounter it, then that prejudice must grate sometimes.

Although if the OP were studying... I don't know... French social theory... then I think your comments would be dead on. :)

French social theorists were instrumental in politicising epistemology in the social sciences, working against a tradition of racist and sexist social scientific practices which had been used by both academics and governments since the beginning of modernity. Conceptual tools which come from this kind of thinking have now filtered down into mainstream undergraduate teaching, and I recently read a report on Australian Aboriginal deaths in police custody which had a few concepts in it which recognisably come from theoretical traditions that originally come from France. These concepts were used in a way that made sense to practitioners on the ground, as well as academics. This report has had a major influence in the way that Aboriginal people in Australia are treated in jail, probably because it was able to recognise the way that race and gender combine to produce emergent forms of disenfranchisement and marginalisation, meaning (hopefully) less deaths in custody and less degradation in jail.

So maybe you should get over your anti-French theory thing as well.
 
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