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What should I do?

jiffilube

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Ever since I've began really thinking about life and the meaning of it all, especially on psychs, I've began to really doubt the point of me actually trying hard in school to the point of it stressing me out. I'm already more intelligent and have amassed more knowledge than the majority of my teachers even, but I'm constantly pushed and taught that grades are all that matters anymore. I really cant do it anymore, my quest for good grades is truly beginning to degrade my quality of life and I feel like I learn less because of school. The future means nothing to me, so I have no career worries. I just need to know is it worth it?
 
it is worth it. read a lot and learn everything you can. i will be 50 in this year and i am very thankful for what i know and it makes me so sad to see younger people these days who don't know anything and think they know it all :(

keep going - this is only a short time in your life and you will need all the information you can store up sometime, somewhere...

try not to get so stressed out about it - make it a fun thing. reward yourself when you do well, but don't beat yourself up if you don't - just tell yourself that you will do better next time.

you can get through this and then you won't have to get your GED in prison or take a very low paying job just because you didn't finish high school :D

you will be glad you finished - trust me ;)
 
I'm not worried about the future, it will come and I will handle it. I could learn more spending a day in a library then I do a week in school. I see the kids who get straight As and think they know it all, and they know nothing. They spit back what they get from a teacher, but theres no intelligence in that. I wish it was different, I wish I actually learned in school rather than memorized.
 
believe me you are learning!!! even stuff you memorize will be useful to you in the future!

it is MUCH easier to learn when you are young! you are like a sponge able to soak up new information and data!!! use this time WISELY - it is much harder to learn when you get older.

memorizing is a form of learning!!! you are programming all this information into your brain for future use!!!

i know that you can't see very far ahead right now and don't care about the future yet - but all of a sudden it will be the future and it would be a terrible pity if you someday wished you had the opportunity to go back to school and were either too old or couldn't go.

use your intelligence! read all you want at the library and on-line!!! you will find it useful someday, somehow.

what going to school does is teach you how to learn! it sets you up for learning things in life on your own.

i was very smart in school. i made straight A's even when i didn't go which was often. i actually was kicked out and dropped out and missed 2 years of school before i went back and finished. i was very glad i finished though - and have never regretted going back even though i was 2 years older than everyone else.

just get through it and do the best you can. you will be glad someday that you kept going and then you will be able to tell your kids the same thing if and when they feel the same way you are feeling now :)
 
If you were really that smart, you would have learned that achieving good grades is not JUST about how much you know. It's what you're able to do with it. The good grades are a way to demonstrate that you are capable of applying what you know and achieving difficult goals.
 
^ That. You might feel like you're "learning" a lot right now, as you're young and becoming privy to the world of psychedelics. However, that type of knowledge rarely can directly put food on your table and money in your retirement fund. Knowledge crosses a wide range, from the extremely profound (yet practically useless) to the basic opposite. It may seem unfortunate in your eyes, but unless you want to really mess up the practical aspects of your life, you've essentially got to suck it up and develop a variety of knowledge. And one part of this is doing what it takes to good good grades in school and higher education.
 
What if you change paths into a field that seems more than just memorization? What are you studying and at which level? There are so many fields where you get to apply what you learn and put your own intelligence in it. Some examples I can think of off the top of my head are philosophy, art, architecture, law, creative writing, journalism.. the list goes on. :) If however you're at a level where you can't really choose what you're learning then it's just a stepping stone to a place where you DO get to decide. It's very rewarding once you get past the fundamentals. :) Chin up. :)
 
AmorRoark, I couldn't agree more. OP, after you go through all of the general education classes is when you get to take the classes that are interesting to you. I'm a graduate student, and am enjoying the material since it is focused on what I am interested in. The people that get As in graduate school are far from spitting out what teachers make them memorize --- college students in general are often graded on papers and projects moreso than exams, so it is your chance to spend a full day in the library learning what you want to learn about --- then putting it in a more presentable context and getting a good grade for your time and effort.

If you are in highschool...highschool fucking sucks man, just get through it, the intellectually stimulating stuff is on it's way, I promise.
 
Same as me man! I had a crazy acid trip and since that my view on life changed , what's the point in life eh ? U die in the end. Life should b fun and not about gettin grades
 
You'll do best finding a 'life-hack': find a job that doesn't seem like work to you.
You've recently discovered, I guess, that school holds no monopoly on learning (and you're apparently accordingly humble about it ;)). Fair enough. However, will your 'life-hack' involve schooling?

ebola
 
Considering I have no urge to integrate into this screwed up society what I do as a profession makes no difference, as long as i get by ill be equally happy.
 
Regardless, you'll likely need spend about 8 hours per day securing sufficient resources to get by. The trick is finding something that you enjoy to constitute those 8 hours.

ebola
 
Ever since I've began really thinking about life and the meaning of it all, especially on psychs, I've began to really doubt the point of me actually trying hard in school to the point of it stressing me out. I'm already more intelligent and have amassed more knowledge than the majority of my teachers even, but I'm constantly pushed and taught that grades are all that matters anymore. I really cant do it anymore, my quest for good grades is truly beginning to degrade my quality of life and I feel like I learn less because of school. The future means nothing to me, so I have no career worries. I just need to know is it worth it?

I think that you need to have a little humility. I'm not sure what level of education you're currently in, but regardless I can assure you that taking heaps of acid is no substitute for thinking through the complexities of academic work (I've done plenty of both).

You're right that the modern education system has an obsession with grades, and I agree with you that grades don't represent learning and that education should be about more than that. I also agree with you that learning happens outside of school as much as inside.

But you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Yes an obsession with grades is not the be all and end all of education. But neither is taking acid and ruminating on existence.

Education is a privilege, and is enormously rewarding if taken seriously. Engage with education in a way that makes sense to you, and do the things you have to do (ie, get good grades) in order to access this privilege if you need to. What you get out of it is as much up to you as it is up to the education system. I agree that much formal education can be very alienating, but if you have an instrumental relationship with all of that shit (ie, you do it because you have to so as to be able to continue in education) and then you learn the important things that are actually going to give you new, critical perspectives on the world, you will no doubt find it rewarding.
 
I'm in now way saying I'm some king of genius or even close, rather I'm pointing to the fact that those who I'm educated by have no more knowledge or intelligence than anyone else, they're just people getting payed to do a job. If you become an educator i think you should take great pride in your work, not just look at it as a paycheck.

Also, I understand taking "heaps of acid" is no solution. I'm constantly reading, writing, and looking up anything that will benefit me psychologically. I've had maybe 20 trips, and I think that using any conscious altering substance allows you to look at this in a different manner and stundy them from a different perspective you might not have seen before.
 
rather I'm pointing to the fact that those who I'm educated by have no more knowledge or intelligence than anyone else, they're just people getting payed to do a job.

From where are you getting this claim? Chances are that people who are educating you at a university have multiple graduate degrees and are of above-average natural intelligence. Becoming a university professor isn't exactly a walk in the park.
 
OP---I made the decision, sometime back, that it is, in fact, NOT worth it. I'm much more content as a heating and air guy than I was as a student. And I think I've learned more, too.
 
Ah, I see. Well then ya, high school teachers...well let's just say there are some great ones and then some disasters. So this makes a bit more sense now, once put into context.

Binge Artist said:
OP---I made the decision, sometime back, that it is, in fact, NOT worth it. I'm much more content as a heating and air guy than I was as a student. And I think I've learned more, too.

But you must credit some of that learning to RL challenging you academic-style on Bluelight!
 
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Oh you're in high school. Well, high schools are highly regimented environments mostly concerned with shuffling you out the door with grades that reflect well on the school. Don't go sour on education because of high school. And don't take too much acid, you're still young. Everyone I know who did heaps of acid at that age is doing fuck all now.
 
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