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when I was quiting heroin for the first time, MMT was the only thing that made me feel like I had some kind of chance. I was pretty young (19) and I relapsed and was an addict for another 5 years before I finally quit. But MMT seemed to make everything a lot easier and my mental condition was much better. i wasn't constantly stressing about my situation.
 
I wouldn't say I am addicted to drugs, but I always want to do them whenever I'm not doing anything and just sitting there and bored out of my mind.

It's a great feeling when you get up and have something important to do for the day, and as you're going about it, realize you haven't taken any drug and don't feel the need to!
 
Hasso said:
I may consider methadone, there is one clinic in my city of 1 million.
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I suggest methadone is a last option if you cannot stay sober. Methadone withdrawals are fucking horrible.

There's only one clinic in your city of 1 million people? Damn, there's small towns here with only 10k people with a methadone clinic.
 
mossad assassin said:
The question that I would like to present to the thread/members is pretty simple: Is there any relief out there that does not require meeting attendance or church? Has anyone found any kind of peace without subjecting themselves to a 12-step program? If so, please share your experience. I'm not going to disrespect NA or other 12 step groups as they may be providing real help for some people here and I respect that. They were not a good fit (lol) for me and I don't see them helping in the future, I'll leave it at that.
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This might sound a bit cheezy but the first time i truly quit Oxy was for a girl. i was using close to 200 mg a day and was out of control but i actually thought i fell in love with this girl. eventually i admitted my addiction to her and she told me it was either her or the drugs, so i quit cold turkey. the withdrawals were so bad i refused to let her see me for a couple weeks in my condition. i basicaly locked myself in my house for 3 weeks and went through complete hell, i had no clue what i was going to put myself through, eventually i recovered and i felt semi-normal again and me and the girl became inseparable for a while. Eventually she dumped me but i cant be mad at her she was way to good for me. i got back into the oxy and im trying to quit again but this time i dont have the help of someone i love. She was the only way i think cold turkey on opiates would ever work for me.
 
Being addicted sucks. That's all I can say. Most impossible thing to quit. As a kid i used to think "why don't people that do drugs just quit?" well now I know.
 
Komatose said:
Being addicted sucks. That's all I can say. Most impossible thing to quit. As a kid i used to think "why don't people that do drugs just quit?" well now I know.
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I don't think it is impossible to quit. I have quit heroin, and in 3 days, I will have been clean for 10 months. I have no desire to reuse and have no cravings. I have minimal if any WD symptoms at this point. I feel really good about how my life is going.

It may seem hard to quit when you're down in it, but you can pull yourself back up if you really want to. Trust me, it may seem hard/impossible, but it's not.
 
Need help finding a Benzo wise doctor for detox in San Francisco Bay Area

I having been taking 8 mg of xanax a day and started to take Valium, which has a longer half life, in order to start tapering. My source for Valium disappeared and I am going on day two with no benzo's. I have been through this before and it's the worst experience I have ever endured. I don't know what to do; I can't afford to go to the ER. Cold turkey is dangerous but don't know where to turn.
 
I would do one of two things if you are suffering from opiate or benzo addiction.
1) find a detox facility in your area and try to get a bed as soon as possible. Detox centers specialize in making you as comfortable as possible while you detox and most are extremely good at it
*** Before reading the next part, understand that i by no means suggest detoxing yourself. Not only is it unsafe but youre a drug addict and unless you have a complete desire to quit, detoxing yourself will never work. also take heed that you can die from withdrawls.***
2) Doctors are more willing to work with you when you are upfront and honest with them. Contact your family doctor and see if he can prescribe ultram, phenobarbitol, and clonidine. Start off your first day taking approx 4-6 ultram, 3 phenobarbs and 2 clonidine. every 6 hours
ween yourself down over the next 4 days subtracting one (1) ultram daily, take 3 phenobarbs and 2 clonidine up through day 2. after that ween one (1) pill daily.
I have used this method on my own as well as in detox facilities and its the easiest detox ive ever been through in my life.
Just for the record i was also using approx a gram of heroin a day along with usually 2-4 oxycontin 80mgs. injecting everything.
 
sharps

I'm addicted to benzo's but I am prescribed them and benefit from them. However, I am addicted to the needle (not a drug but I think some hee can relate). I am not willing for help for some reason. I don't know if I ever will be.
 
Benzo W/D is the worst also I must disgree aboout opioid addiction

rolls said:
Addiciton is real and very very common with these kind of drugs, you can try and plan as much as possible to avoid getting addicted but you can certainly still get hooked. Hopefully having this thread in everyones face will make people think twice and do their absolute best to avoid addiction, as it can ruin lives, destroy careers and ultimately kill you.

Benzos:
Valium (diazepam)
Temazepam
Clonazepam
Xanax
Lots more

These are some of the more common benzos, usually prescribed by a doctor for muscle spasms, cronic anxiety and sleep issues, usually only for short term use.

Another warning, Benzos withdrawal can kill you and can be far worse than opiate or stimulant withdrawal. It will lower your seizure threshold can if you suffer from epilepsy will guarantee you need to do the detox in professional medical care.
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I did plan to become an opioid addictio and it saved my life. I completely sane and serious when I say this but do not want to get into thrr details at the moment.

I am pretty (extremely) sure that one does not need to be an eplitic to suffer for seizures during benzo W/D; I think it is the worst (alcohol may be worse but I wouldn't know). It will drive you crazy, make you feel like shit, and (as already stated can kill you).
 
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Opiate withdrawl is the worst thing I have ever...been through 2 days without I freaked punching my legs, couldn't sit still didn't want to move hot\cold sweats no chance of sleeping at ALL, I've been trying to cut down but very difficult... I have timed dose's and cant wait to the next. was able to quit booze\pot\coke but Oc's holy shit.. my advise never start not worth it
 
Kenaz said:
I've encountered plenty of people who thought it was cool and elite to become addicted to opiates. Generally they were white college-educated kids who decided they didn't just want to read William S. Burroughs, Jim Carroll, etc. -- they wanted the street cred which comes with being a junkie. 8)
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That sure as hell was not my reason and I did become an opioid addict intentinially.
I think that you need to look a little deeper :(
 
Once I make it through a really bad kick the first kick I ever dealt with in some strange way they got easier to deal with. I say stay away if you have never gotten caught but if you have then get away from that huge monkey. I will only allow myself to use for three days then I force myself to kick for two weeks. Why I don't quit for good, stupidity boredom and so on. I in no way think I have any control, but I'm also a lot smarter about it and won't get caught up that bad ever again. Seriously stay the fuck away from opiates if you know what is good for you, they will change your life forever. If you really want to get away from drugs there is a way, quit. thats it don't pussy around just fuckin quit use suboxone for three days then deal with the mild kick and get a new life. I was clean for a year and went back like a dumbass, but I know that there is a life out there far better than getting high all the time. Simple pleasures good food family friends who care going to movies playing an instrument going to work being a decent human. Not a rollercoaster, more like a ferris wheel.
 
Lam

Captain.Heroin said:
LAAM (though it's been discontinued, so I can't say it's an option for everybody), dihydrocodeine, levorphanol. Some doctors in certain countries will prescribe oxycontin or morphine sulfate for these very purposes.

There's also the option of poppy pods, and OTC codeine products.
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IMO LAM was discontinued for a good reason. Although if it were my choice anything would be available OTC.
 
No...

Captain.Heroin said:
Did you ever try LAAM? What did you think of it?
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No, but I have read about it a long time ago. It sounds particularly nasty, because of the way it can affect the rythem of the heart. Think it was dropping people like flys.

Also IMO long acting opioids are not suitable for maintenance, taper, or detox.

Sorry this is just what I remember off the top of my fucked up head. I will try to edit this post to add better info.

well QT prolongation and and arrhythmias don't sound healthy.
 
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Bell Ringer said:
No, but I have read about it a long time ago. It sounds particularly nasty, because of the way it can affect the rythem of the heart. Think it was dropping people like flys.

Also IMO long acting opioids are not suitable for maintenance, taper, or detox.

Sorry this is just what I remember off the top of my fucked up head. I will try to edit this post to add better info.
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I understand the point you're coming from.

I think buprenorphine is an excellent choice for maintenance, tapering, and detoxing. That's just me though, I can understand others won't feel the same way.

I had no idea people were dying due to LAAM via effecting cardiac rhythms. That's just crazy.
 
I'm so fucked, I'm about to basically lose everything I fought so hard for in life.

Sparring you the sob story of everything Ive been througsh I eventually made it to university as a mature student, worked very hard while holding down two jobs working 60-70 hours a week while in school.

I got so stressed out in my last semester I was unable to actually sleep, I would get 4 hours a week, so a buddy of mine turned me onto Oxycontin.

Before yuo knew it I bought 3000 pills and they lasted me a little over 6 months, I have less than 40 left and dont know where to buy any as this person as since moved out of the country and I'm not a real underworld kind of guy now a days.

So Im stuck with the fact of facing the unavoidable and will be detoxing without any ability to taper down, Ive been to 5 doctors, all of which have basically told me I'm shit out of luck and leave.

I am on a waiting list for methadone but I run out in a few days and dont start on methadone for another 3 and 1/2 weeks.

*sigh*

I'm really depressed and kind of wish I could just end it, but I'm not a pussy and have too much to live for, I am however dreading what I'm about to face and I'm so scared of it I'm back to not sleeping (and when I do I have horrible night terrors)
 
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