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demerest

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i take oxazepam for my anxiety but it dosen't last long on 3 hours
ive tried valium which dosen't do much either i asked my doctor to give me rivotril which is clonazepam but he said its no used for anxiety.
i would like to know what other benzo is good for anxiety and last a bit longer
because oxazepam is to short acting and dont want to take every couple of hours.%)%)
 
Have you thought about asking for Librium? It works decently for anxiety and has a pretty long half life. But just Google a list of benzos and start reading about each of them. Valium is great if it is in a high enough dose and dosed 4x a day.
 
If valium didn't help then how would you expect Librium to be any use. . . ? ? ?

After having tried a selection of benzos, I would say with some confidence that librium is ridiculously weak. Any tolerance, and you may as well dose yourself with a months supply.
 
^ Benzo's are very subjective class of drugs its stupid to say Librium is weak for everyone. Librium Is stronger then valium for some people.
 
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demerest said:
i take oxazepam for my anxiety but it dosen't last long on 3 hours
ive tried valium which dosen't do much either i asked my doctor to give me rivotril which is clonazepam but he said its no used for anxiety.
i would like to know what other benzo is good for anxiety and last a bit longer
because oxazepam is to short acting and dont want to take every couple of hours.%)%)
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explain to me the reason behind kpins not having any use for anxiety? It's got a longer acting half life than say alporazam and it works fine for anxiety if you respond well to it. Your doctor seems to know lil about pharmacology, welcome to the wagon lol.
 
I know there are some VERY long acting barbiturates , with the same sorta main effects as benzos...

The easiest one IMO to get a hold of (and in large amounts) is phenobarbital. It stays in your body for something like 7 days... but the downside is it takes 8 hours for peak plasma levels, and it isn't that strong or noticeable, unless taken in doses over 700 mgs.

I remember dosing pheno one night and waking up the next morning FUCKED UP really heavily , almost to the level one would feel on large amounts of antipsychotics.

Not very fun to abuse, but it is theraputic.

-lenses
 
That's funny. My psychiatrist has prescribed me clonazepam for anxiety and panic but won't let me give diazepam a shot. Let's trade doctors!

I've tried valium illicitly though, and although both it and clonazepam have a fairly long half-life, I really only get a good anxiolytic effect for maybe 4 hours.
 
^ Yeah pheno is very heavy every time I drank valocardin i was fucked for atleast 2 days. That is back from eastern europe where its sold otc. Also in America in small russian stores. It also has valerian and tastes shitty.
 
I'm surprised he said clonazepam isn't used for anxiety, as I know at least 2 people who are scripted it for that purpose only.
 
For some reason according to people i know in some countries doctors in certain countries really only prescribe clonazepam as a anti-convulsant and won't or possibly can't prescribe it for anxiety. That is just the utter bullshit laws of some countries. Ive been on clonazepam (also called rivotril here in canada) for 3 and a half years now for anxiety and it's main use here seems to be for anxiety. I find it to be the best benzo for anxiety and it's effects are the longest ive had of any benzo. The effects can last 8-12 hours depending on the person and dose. Even though it has a much shorter half life then diazepam it lasts longer.

As for diazepam after awile it's metabolities build up and it will start to last longer. The metabolities have a half life of 200 hours so they do build up and you get that nice benzo drowsiness. Librium might be worth a shot and according to benzo.org it is only 5mg's less potetant compared to diazepam then oxazepam is.

Half life has almost nothing to do with how long the actual effects last by the way. Hence why clonazepam lasts longer for alot of people compared to diazepam.
 
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^ That is interesting I thought it depended on the half-life of how long a drug has an effect.
 
Valium has active metabolites which are oxazepam and temazepam. Also there is one more I believe. Anyone know?
Emjay- why won't your Psychiatrist let you try diazepam?
 
jonny11007 said:
Emjay- why won't your Psychiatrist let you try diazepam?
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I'm not really too sure. When I asked if there were any other options, she said something like, "I don't prescribe Xanax if that's what you're thinking. The dependence and withdrawals are severe."

Then I asked about diazepam, and I think she said something along those lines as well. She told me she only feels comfortable prescribing clonazepam and lorazepam to outpatients (despite the fact that she's asked me to admit myself on numerous occasions), and even then that's only in the worst cases. I get really anxious talking to her (or anybody) about my problems though, and my mind kind of goes into a reactionary mode with little room for thought, so it's actually difficult for me to recall exactly what she said.

I don't know if that's a huge deal though, I seem to be handling it better, oddly enough, when I take higher doses rather than just the 0.5. Right now she's okayed 1.5mg as needed, rather than a consistent dose of 0.5mg twice daily, but I think I'm going to ask to bump it to 2mg if only for the reason that the prescription will be significantly cheaper for me to fill.

If it's any indication, I was ridiculously anxious with her, as I mentioned, after I had just taken 1.5mg. So it's definitely not the end of my problems, but I was able to negotiate at a car dealership over the weekend without having a panic attack, which is something I don't think I could have done without it. So it's a help, but right now I feel like I no longer have control over my progress, I just don't know what exactly I can do myself to better my situation.

As for valium's active metabolites, oxazepam and temazepam are correct, but the main one is nordiazepam.
 
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emjay got the main active metabolite. Am I wrong in thinking that people are over-prescribed Diazepam? With such a long half-life there must be considerable build up of both Diazepam and its active metabolites. So if someone is prescribed 20mg Diazepam a day it actually ISN'T equivalent to 1mg Clonazepam, it is more due to the build up. So what about when people switch from a short-acting benzo to Diazepam to taper, are the first few phases of the taper actually needless and only adding to the dependence?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines has a chart that lists all benzos and some information about them including half life. A friend of mine is prescribed clonazepam for her anxiety issues, so perhaps you could talk to another doctor that wold be willing to let you try it. Xanax is another one that you may want to look into. It has a short half life but is still effective for treating anxiety.
 
emjay said:
Then I asked about diazepam, and I think she said something along those lines as well. She told me she only feels comfortable prescribing clonazepam and lorazepam to outpatients
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that's crazy. by "outpatients" she meant you.
 
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