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Mephedrone Megathread: Fourth Redose

'Ketadrone' is a favorite of mine :) would be asleep now but then the meph came out, gonna proceed with some wobbly later ;)
 
havent done meph in 2 weeks now, started getting mad paranoia on it so stopped, hoping to try it again soon but have benzos on hand and maybe not do as much in a session, as for the price its still the best stim out there imo.
 
Evad said:
haha wow it's almost as if the crystal and the powder batches are one and the same 8o.
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yes you can do this but by inferior they often mean weaker smelly sticky powder that when you do an acetone wash leaves a lot of murky white cloud in the flitered acetone. given this stuff and the crystally stuff can be found at the same price the choice is obvious. the eating is in the pudding, but when it doesn't stink and hits you very quickly in small amounts its often a good sign. even the crystally stuff can be transformed into a powder if you put it under some plasticy magazine paper and run a card over it.
 
Ceres said:
I found this (large) photo of the "fluffy white powdery inferior mephedrone" amateurishly transformed by a couple of drops of water into supposedly superior "crystally mephedrone" and thought it might settle a point of contention here.

The effects were the same before and after, just the larger crystally version required more effort crushing it up into a useable powder again.....For scale reference thats the base of an upturned jamjar btw. Better technique would probably produce much larger and uniform crystals. There are two crystals in themiddle which look like good seed candidates.
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I've had meph from alot of vendors now, non crystal, crystal, smelly, non smelly.. believe me when I say there is a huge difference in some of the batches! I've had crystally stuff that wasn't that great and stank to high heaven. Smell is probably a better indicator of quality than crystal. Apparently anything thats not pure white is impurities aswell! :|
 
I'd wager that there's not more than a percent or 2 difference in purity between any batches. Power of suggestion and the fact that different densities of the consistencies would mean eyeballing different weights are the cause of the difference in effects.
 
Evad said:
I'd wager that there's not more than a percent or 2 difference in purity between any batches. Power of suggestion and the fact that different densities of the consistencies would mean eyeballing different weights are the cause of the difference in effects.
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That and 'setting'. Yep.

I've had crystal, non-crystal etc etc....not more than 2% difference in any of them.

Or....some people are going to unscrupulous vendors and getting ripped off. The only users I hear complaining are ones on Bluelight. Power of suggestion indeed...
 
I have been getting the crystal stuff, pretty white, very little smell for quite some time now via direct source whos getting it from China. Good stuff, wouldnt touch any of the other batches about
 
all the vendors are getting it directly from china. most of the vendors probably get it from the same couple of sources, this batch nonsense gets on my tits.
 
the stuff is i get is crystally stuff, pure white, has a smell with it though. stinks quite badly but never fails to make me feel awesome. had eye wiggles, minor light hallucinations where id look at lights and see the light for a few seconds when i looked away, great stuff
 
Evad said:
all the vendors are getting it directly from china. most of the vendors probably get it from the same couple of sources, this batch nonsense gets on my tits.
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Im not saying there is much difference in how strong it is, but I think the pure white crystal with virtually no smell seems to give me a cleaner high. Which to me suggests a better synth perhaps. :)
 
the crystally batch i get is alot stronger than the old fluffy white stuff. Much easier to make into lines too, hits alot harder.
 
Why the fuck do people say theres no come down?

I had a 3 day monster nightmare comedown it was absolutley awful.
 
^ ive had very nasty come downs before. after a 2 day binge, never felt so fucking shit in all my life. was so unmotivated i could of quit my job there and then, and happily curled up and died
 
Perhaps those people say that there's no comedown because for them there isn't :)

I've never had any noticable comedown from meph... but then I've never abused the shit out of it either. Methylone, on the other hand, gave me the most godawful three-day comedown whereas others are fine with it. People are just different :)
 
Is that down to it being so toxic then?

And if your lucky to get good stuff you wont get a comedown as shambles says ive tried it twice only as its so cheap..!!
 
ColtDan said:
. stinks quite badly
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Stuff I get never has, been told it should never have an extreme smell and that aint a good sign dont know if true or not

Regarding the 'comedown' issue Ive never had one of any sort after a meph session, touching wood hope that always is the case
 
caizar said:
Is that down to it being so toxic then?
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Evad reckons it's down to there being so many different batches about ;)=D

I suspect it's just down to how peoples' bodies react to it - like the way some people get really bad hangovers and others don't or whatever. I know there have been genuinely dodgy synths around from time to time but for the most part I'd think it's just down to idiosyncratic reactions :)
 
Shambles said:
I suspect it's just down to how peoples' bodies react to it - like the way some people get really bad hangovers and others don't or whatever. I know there have been genuinely dodgy synths around from time to time but for the most part I'd think it's just down to idiosyncratic reactions :)
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I agree totally. Myself and a number of people done exactly the same stuff last weekend on a nite out/party after and 2 people next day complained of rushing heart issues, pins and needles and generally feeling dodgy. Everyone else (quite a few) were totally fine, no problem, even caught a few hours sleep, eating normal next day, ready for another nite out on Sunday :)
 
MR_DISCOBISCUIT said:
Stuff I get never has, been told it should never have an extreme smell and that aint a good sign dont know if true or not
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Any noticable odour is definately not a good sign, especially considering the toxicity/cancer cancer-causing properties of the solvents and reagents commonly used in producing these drugs...some of the nastiest ones have strangely pleasant smells aswell..

Solvents should be fairly volatile though so if the material is "clumpy"/not completely dry and smells, spreading it out thinly on some flat surface and letting it air for a while in a ventilated area may get rid of any smell and some health risks.

Other contaminants are more of a problem because if the material you have is a crude precipitate from evaporation, they can become trapped in the crystal lattice, may be undetectable without professional TLC/GC-MS analysis and ultmately are destined to be ingested if you use the stuff. I've never seen a synthesis for 4-methylmethcathinone described myself, but I'll wager that none of the precursors/reagents etc involved are things you would want to be exposed to on a regular basis.

IMO a good indicator of a "better quality/potentially less hazardous" sample is uniformity of the shape and size of the crystals, which should be colourless, free-flowing/completely dry and odourless - to me that suggests recrystallisation of the crude precipitate as the final step of the production (which removes more contaminants), aswell as proper care and attention in making sure all the solvent is removed.

Another point is that during packing and transportation, crystals will probably get damaged and break up a bit, leading to finer particles which will end up settling to the bottom of whatever container the stuff is in, which could explain inconsistencies in a vendors wares especially as they reach the bottom of the container.

BTW, I fully expect someone with an actual education in this subject to come along point out that everything I've just said is total bollocks :P
 
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