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Ghost in the shell is fantastic....I do like my anime though!

I agree MrM and was wondering the same thing myself about the human brain....would it eventually die? Does it have a time limit before it naturally starts to degrade.

Also if the limb thing worked just imagine how sport would have to change? There is already uproar in certain circles about artificial legs!
 
the brain would start to suffer from alzheimers etc after a while id guess?
 
Or would it? Does it only start suffering with these things because the body can no longer produce or give what is needed to it therefore it dies?

I am very open minded and interested by these types of things, the only problem is I am not very educated in them so I can ask the most perfect questions and find questions that would defy most beliefs so I apologise now if this conversation goes on and I piss people off in my willingness to learn!!!!
 
With super robot strangth though he could just punch through things....no need for throwing (the monkey told me!)
 
why do russians love experimenting on dogs rather than monkeys? surely monkeys are more fun?

that two headed dog experiment is fucked up tho. scientists just shouldn't do shit like that, creepy bastards

It does seem creepy but the scientist involved was doing serious research into organ replacement and rejection so if you know anyone who's still alive because of a donated organ, it's partly down scientists making two headed dogs.

I think they used dogs because they are more common in russia than monkeys.
 
There's a good(ish) documentary about that Russian two-headed dog chappy that I forget the name of. Not much information to be going on should you wish to track it down yourself, granted...

PS: In vaguely related Russian dog experimentation news, Heart of a Dog is a good Russian film involving dogs and organ transplants :)
 
Science is now 'bargaining chip'..

An all-party committee of MPs has said that science has been reduced to a political bargaining chip within government.

The conclusion comes in a report by the Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills (IUSS) committee.

It recommends that the role of scientific advice should be strengthened in Whitehall and that the recommendations be made public.

The MPs say that the Office of Science should also find a stable home.

A preferable place would be the Cabinet Office, where the office would be able to influence all government departments.

The Office of Science has been housed in three separate departments in the space of two years. The impact, according to the IUSS select committee has reduced scientific and engineering advice to a peripheral policy concern.

The MPs cite the public criticism of comments made by drugs policy adviser David Nutt by the former Home Secretary Jacqui Smith as an example of the erosion of independent science advice in recent years.

Professor Nutt published an article in the Journal of Psychopharmacology in which he said: "Drug harm can be equal to harms in other parts of life. There is not much difference between horse-riding and ecstasy."

According to the chairman of the IUSS committee Phil Willis MP: "More should have been done to support Professor Nutt."

Mr Willis also said that "it was not right to have independent scientific advice - and have the press offices of the government department they are advising acting as their spokesmen".

The IUSS report also calls for recommendations made by government science and engineering advisers to be made public - so that they can't be ignored by ministers.

"Scrutiny of policy must be strengthened," according to Mr Willis.

He supported the setting up of more independent scientific advisory bodies, but added: "But if they are to be of real value they have to be truly independent."

Defra made scientific advisers sign non-disclosure agreements earlier this year when they were assessing the scientific credibility of local scale climate projections produced by the UK Met Office.

The MPs also called for greater clarity in the government's efforts to focus resources on areas where the UK was world class. "if the government is to go back to picking winners it has to be absolutely clear who the losers are," according to Mr Willis.

Quite true. Everything and anything that the government have access to is used for nothing but political gain, regardless of facts.
Fuckin Cracky Jacqui Smithe :p Pr0n confiscating shlaaaag!
 
Quite true. Everything and anything that the government have access to is used for nothing but political gain, regardless of facts.
Fuckin Cracky Jacqui Smithe :p Pr0n confiscating shlaaaag!

Good article.

I'd like to see science and scientists given more of a say in policy making decisions (especially ones regarding things like wind farms, new nuclear power stations, climate change etc) and it would be good if the reports weren't covered up whenever they disagree with the governments line on the subject (i.e. jackie smith and the drugs issues).
 
I'd really like to see that also. Scientific advisers and their evidence is far too often completely ignored, the recent example being that they should close schools to try and control Swine Flu and stop it from spreading - which has pretty much been ignored with Ed Balls (I think) saying that there won't be any use by doing so..
 
I'd really like to see that also. Scientific advisers and their evidence is far too often completely ignored

The other thing that annoys me is that whenever 'science' and 'scientists' get any media coverage, because the media want to sell stories they go for the best story and publish that rather than the best science and publish that.

The obvious example that springs to mind is the MMR vaccine. Almost all the scientists in the world involved were convinced it was perfectly safe, especially compared to measles mumps or rubella, but one lone scientists (who it later turned out was receiving funding from trial layers seaking to prove that MMR causes autism - hmm nice and impartial that...) said otherwise.

The lone voice of insanity made for a better story as far as the media were concerned and as a result a load of kids (especially in wales for some reason) are now dead.
 
Scientists find an itchiness cell

US scientists have pinpointed a type of nerve cell in mice which appears to generate the itch sensation.

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The finding suggests itching is not simply a low-level variation of pain - but a distinct sensation.

A team from Washington University found itch and pain signals seem to be transmitted along different pathways in the spinal cord.

The study, published online by the journal Science, raises hopes of new treatments for itching.

Many scientists have regarded itching as just a less intense version of pain.


It could pinpoint targets for future treatments for itch, a common and sometimes debilitating condition produced by more than 50 diseases
Dr Glenn Giesler
University of Minnesota

They spent decades searching in vain for itch-specific nerve cells to explain how the brain perceives itch differently from pain.

The latest study finally pinpoints these cells - but shows that the low-level pain theory was wrong.

The researchers were able to knock out the itch response in mice without affecting the animals' ability to sense pain and attempt to avoid it.

Lead researcher Dr Zhou-Feng Chen said: "This finding has very important therapeutic implications.

"We have shown that particular neurons are critical for the itching sensation but not for pain, which means those cells may contain several itch-specific receptors or signalling molecules that can be explored or identified as targets for future treatment or management of chronic itching."

First gene

The same team identified an "itch gene", called GRPR, in 2007.

This time, they injected the spinal cord of mice with a toxin that killed off cells in which the gene was active.


ITCHING
There are many causes of itch, including more than 50 diseases including shingles, Aids, gallbladder problems and Hodgkin's Disease
The itch produced by many diseases can greatly affect quality of life and cannot always be treated
It is not clear that itch serves any clear purpose in many cases

By doing this they were able to eliminate the scratch response in some animals completely.

However, the same animals continued to respond normally to pain.

This showed that the key cells were active in transmitting the sensation of itching, but not the sensation of pain.

There are two major types of itching. One, caused by bug bites or allergic reactions, is linked to the presence of the chemical histamine.

But most chronic, severe itching is not linked to the chemical - and does not respond to standard anti-histamine treatment.

However, mice whose itch cells had been destroyed did not scratch, regardless of the type of itching agent to which they were exposed.

Dr Glenn Giesler, an expert in itch at the University of Minnesota, said: "I believe this work is very important.

"It could pinpoint targets for future treatments for itch, a common and sometimes debilitating condition produced by more than 50 diseases."

However, Professor Gil Yosipovitch, another expert in the field at Wake Forest University in North Carolina, said the pathway uncovered by the latest study was not the only one that could transmit the itch sensation.

He said other work suggested there were other pathways which transmitted both the sensations of itch and pain.

He also warned that there was a long way to go from work on mice to the development of new drugs for humans.

However, he added: "It could surely help develop new treatments for itch.

"As yet there are no general purpose anti-pruritic (anti-itch) drugs that target the neural system."
Linky
 
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In the vein of the breathalyzer, Philips has developed an on-the-go drug test, that can be used by the side of the road to test suspected imbibers for cocaine, heroin, cannabis, amphetamines and methaphetamine. Unlike the standard alcohol testing equipment, this one is used by having the suspect spit into a small receptacle, which is then inserted into the measurement chamber which contains magnetic nanoparticles coated with ligands that bind to one of five different drug groups, delivering color coded test results in about 90 seconds. Philips, which has been developing the device since 2001, built it as an optical device that would be easy to mass produce for law enforcement. The company expects to ship them by the end of the year, though there's no word on exactly which markets will employ them as of yet.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/06/philips-to-unveil-saliva-based-roadside-drug-test-later-this-yea/

What a fucking joke :X This will be snapped up by the police quickly no doubt.
 
People will have a go at me for this but I think that drug test thing is a good idea and the police should have it. Driving under the influence of alcohol or any drug does put people in danger. I am no saint, I have driven on pills, coke and G before now. When I was on G I did bump into another car while I was waiting for my KFC! No damage to either car, luckily, but still....

Go on, let the flaming comence!
 
Woman 'torched Briton's genitals'

A Greek woman accused of setting fire to the genitals of a British tourist in Crete is due to appear in court.

The woman admitted assault after dousing the man's private parts in alcohol and igniting them, but says she did so after being sexually harassed.

Police on the Greek island say the tourist was drunk and had waved his genitals at several girls before allegedly groping the suspect.

The man suffered second degree burns and is recovering in a private clinic.

The 26-year-old suspect handed herself over to police, claiming she had acted in self defence.

She has won praise on Crete for what has been seen as defending her honour, the BBC's Malcolm Brabant said.

Little sympathy

According to police the 23-year-old tourist was drunk when he dropped his trousers in a nightclub in the resort of Malia.

The suspect, who has not been named, said she doused the man in Sambuca and torched him after she asked him to stop harassing her and he failed to stop.

She will be questioned by an investigating magistrate in the city of Iraklion.

The case has been widely discussed on Greek television, and there has been precious little sympathy for the young Briton, said our correspondent.

He added that many Greeks are sickened by British bad behaviour in Malia and other resorts.

A Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that in the early hours of Tuesday a 23-year-old British male national was assaulted in Crete.

"We understand he suffered burns on his chest and abdomen.

"He has been receiving consular assistance."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8189296.stm

Gave me a giggle.
 
People will have a go at me for this but I think that drug test thing is a good idea and the police should have it. Driving under the influence of alcohol or any drug does put people in danger. I am no saint, I have driven on pills, coke and G before now. When I was on G I did bump into another car while I was waiting for my KFC! No damage to either car, luckily, but still....

Go on, let the flaming comence!

Actually i agree with you. Unfortuantely, with cannabis, it stays in your system for so long that if you had a heavy session a few days ago, or if you are a regular stoner but were sober when driving, there will be enough of the metabolites which are what cannabis tests usually test for left in your system to give a false positive even though you are completely sober and capable of driving.

It's just cannabis that has this issue i think; all the other drugs are fair enough.

If they didn't test for cannabis (or if they sorted the test so it only gives a positive if you are high rather than have metabolites in your system) i'd pretty much be encouraging the police to use them myself.
 
Most other things are 72 hours (stimulants, etc), so you could get false positives there too. Hardly fair. It's not like you are still high three days after taking a pill. Unless it checks how much is actually in your body per sample.
 
That's exactly it. They'll use it to fine/discriminate against drivers/people who aren't high while driving, but just have traces of drugs in their system from the last time they were high. Very poor.

And who's to say it would only be used on drivers? People stopped in the street could be asked to provide a saliva sample? Wouldn't surprise me...
 
The man suffered second degree burns and is recovering in a private clinic.

Made me chuckle that he was recovering in a PRIVATE clinic for burnt nuts!!



With regard to the tester, I assumed that it would only test if you were high at the time, I didn't think about metabolites. I wouldn't have thought that there would be a high level of metabolites in saliva though? I may be wrong
 
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