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Karma, real or a way for the weak too "get even"

OpiodSlave

OpiodSlave

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I think the title states the question, do you believe karma is real? I ask this question personally believeing they're may be some truth behind it. A perfect example is heroin dealers who become addicted too there product, my uncle who broke his girlfriends back, then the next day got in a car accident and now live on a ventelator (well exists, there's no living). So....what do you think and why?
 
karma does not exist because people like hitler and stalin existed. surely they were underhanded and deceitful, yet still rose to the top peak of power. they held unimaginable influence and strength through lies and evil. karma does not exist... mean mother fuckers are at the top and many of them are malicious fucks, who don't care about their inferior counterparts.
 
Karma is just a nice little idea that keeps you from obsessively plotting against the kid that bullied you in high school every night for the rest of your life. That and practicing voodoo.

If karma existed, someone like Hitler would've been hung by his own singular testicle and gradually cuit into enough pieces to represent each life he'd ruined. (Hell yes I played the Hitler card!)

Karma implies that the universe holds a moral objectivist view, which is bullshit. The universe doesn't care about the girl that took your car, or the kid that kicked over your garden gnome. Any examples of karma are just luck.
 
^Both of you, just because nothing happened to Hitler, Stalin, or similar people, it does not mean that they will not experience atonement for their actions is some afterlife. Be it suffering in some sort of 'hell' or being reincarnated as an awful being, or who knows what else. There may not be any afterlife, but because we cannot be certain of that, there is the possibility.
 
that is true, but to me karma represents that idea of naturally getting even whilst we walk the earth. as for the afterlife to me that isn't karma, it is judgement. either way it doesn't matter to me, i don't believe :P
 
The afterlife debate can't really be refuted, though. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. We can't know either way.

On that note, if we suffer in an afterlife, then the universe/God/whatever oughta be put down and punished like all fuck. Motherfucker has it coming.
 
Karma is a way for the incapable to cope with negative actions taken against them. In short karma is something that makes people "feel less like a bitch"
 
karma isnt a physical thing, though physical events may occur, the true effects wont be seen on a physical plane
 
>ENLiGHT* said:
You made me think on that one.....Before I read that, I considered "Karma" a load of shit.....But you sure got me thinking....+1
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Aye, but that again implies the universe has a strong, objective sense of right and wrong... which is scary, really. The problem with that is, if we assume the universe frowns on murder, then our neanderthalic ancestor's are sucking it up right now in hell -- this is unfair, as they hadn't evolved to the point of clear morals yet. If we say "Oh, but Go only judges those creatures that are evolved enough!" we fall into human arrogance, assuming that own the damn place.

... I just forgot where I was going with this. My point was probably against karma again, though.
 
^Why must right and wrong be objective? The universe doesn't have to look at every action in black-and-white. I find many times actions are never good or bad; it is all how they are perceived.
 
Yeah, exactly. It's how we as a singular person perceive something. The idea that the universe can perceive in a complicated way is unnerving as hell, though. ._.

I honestly didn't think of why it has to be black and white. I guess that was just me thinking of all the judgemental gods from religions and rolled them into one, forgetting that the complexity of humans could very likely be pale compared to any universe way of "thinking."

Goddamn. I'm scared. Somehow hold me.
 
What is a morale anyway? Like when you think about it man, morale's is really something that is socially embedded in us. If we were too grow up in a outback in Africa somewhere, where day to day survival wasn't as sure as it is here things would be a lot different on our psychics; Murder is necessary, as is stealing and if you have no contact with society your sexual encounters would more than likely resemble rape.

But here, we are told "don't kill, don't steal, don't rape" and if we do, it's meet by a "just" punishment by the judicial system or frowned down apon by most people who would find out.
 
I think what IGNVS implied was....or not....
Once some kind of unnessary pain is inflicted to another living thing or object it distrupts the process of the mental or subconscience or the aura that both the thing and/or the inflictor carry, causing that to be percieved and tuned in by others to fill in a big picture of ONE.
Aside from hunting for food and basic survival.
 
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kandytime said:
karma does not exist because people like hitler and stalin existed. surely they were underhanded and deceitful, yet still rose to the top peak of power. they held unimaginable influence and strength through lies and evil. karma does not exist... mean mother fuckers are at the top and many of them are malicious fucks, who don't care about their inferior counterparts.
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Both of those assholes paid for it one way or another. Hitler and Stalins life was both shit, because of what they had done. Both of them lived in fear 24/7, never knowing who would take them out. They both had millions killed, including people close to them out of that fear. Hitler went basically mad at the end, killing himself and Stalin is said to have been killed by the head of the KGB. They paid in this life, and I believe they somehow will pay in the next.
 
Super-Position and entanglement in the world of quantum mechanics have essentially proven reality and the universe, basically everything to be one. This means hurting someone else is hurting yourself. Another thing is, basic physics applies to the nature of the universe is force applied on something else reacts with equal force upon you. Recoil. Karma is scientifically proven.
 
straycatphizzle said:
Super-Position and entanglement in the world of quantum mechanics have essentially proven reality and the universe, basically everything to be one. This means hurting someone else is hurting yourself. Another thing is, basic physics applies to the nature of the universe is force applied on something else reacts with equal force upon you. Recoil. Karma is scientifically proven.
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We are energy, everything is energy. So say if you used the analogy of all life is say the water in a bath tub, and you believe that every cause has an effect. Then if you stuck your hand in very slow (positive response=harms little). Their will be a small effect in the tub. But if you stick your hand in fast (negative response=more harm) You'll probably get the back splash of what you caused.

Man wish I understand fully quantum mechanics/physics. I understand it from a sixth sense (spiritual) perspective if you will. Just not the scientific data.
 
As a Jew I absolutely believe in Karma. You wil be reincarnated according to how you lived your life, no doubt. We do NOT believe in the whole "Nirvana" spiel though. We do not believe that the ultimate goal is to escape the physical realm because escaping it is a given, we all will escape it when it is time.
 
Betterdaze said:
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We are energy, everything is energy. So say if you used the analogy of all life is say the water in a bath tub, and you believe that every cause has an effect. Then if you stuck your hand in very slow (positive response=harms little). Their will be a small effect in the tub. But if you stick your hand in fast (negative response=more harm) You'll probably get the back splash of what you caused.

Man wish I understand fully quantum mechanics/physics. I understand it from a sixth sense (spiritual) perspective if you will. Just not the scientific data.
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Well, if you take into consideration the fact that each atom is full of insane amounts of energy, yes it makes a lot of sense. Also, In the kybalion, it talks about vibrations and how existing consciously on different planes of existence is just vibrating on a higher or lower frequency. Its all very scientific when people spend time studying what they feel in their experiences. But thats besides the point, karma is scientifically proven.
 
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