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Film: Slumdog Millionaire
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smotpoker
Bluelighter
It could've been free and still would have been a terrible film
twominds
Bluelighter
I gave it a 4 from 5. The best film I've seen this year and deserved academy award winner. Danny Boyle's yet to make a bad film and has a significant body of work from 'shallow grave' 'trainspotting' '28 days later' 'sunshine' and probably the weakest of his films 'the beach.' which wasn't a bad film mind you.
L O V E L I F E
Bluelighter
"So the guys rob a bunch of people and live crazy off-the-wall lives. Wow. Interesting. Not."
Would that be a good argument for why Goodfellas, widely acknowledged as one of the better (if not one of the BEST) films of the past quarter-century, ISN'T excellent?
If you want to argue that Slumdog isn't great, go ahead.
But what you just posted was pretty pointless, in my opinion.
TheDeceased
Ex-Bluelighter
^ I disagree. What you quoted makes perfect sense to me. Also, I don't think that Goodfellas is widely acknowledged as one of the better (or BEST) films of the past 25 years.
Furthermore, there is no depth to Slumdog and so summing it up in a sentence is possible... and appropriate as far as I'm concerned. In fact I could sum up it's pointlessness in a shorter sentence.
So it's about "Who wants to be a millionare?". Well fuck that. Fuck that right in the ass.
Furthermore, there is no depth to Slumdog and so summing it up in a sentence is possible... and appropriate as far as I'm concerned. In fact I could sum up it's pointlessness in a shorter sentence.
So it's about "Who wants to be a millionare?". Well fuck that. Fuck that right in the ass.
vegan
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i haven't read all the thread, so maybe it's been said
but in my opinion, boyle liked "cidade de deus" and decided to make a movie in the same vein (aesthetics and context).
i liked the movie, although it's definitely been given too much credit
there's one thing i'd like to mention/get opinions about
on the poster here, it said "the feel good movie of the year"
it definitely didn't give me this feeling
what about you?
yes, there's a happy ending
but that doesn't cancel the rest of the movie/the actual situation of the unfortunate in india/around the world
but in my opinion, boyle liked "cidade de deus" and decided to make a movie in the same vein (aesthetics and context).
i liked the movie, although it's definitely been given too much credit
there's one thing i'd like to mention/get opinions about
on the poster here, it said "the feel good movie of the year"
it definitely didn't give me this feeling
what about you?
yes, there's a happy ending
but that doesn't cancel the rest of the movie/the actual situation of the unfortunate in india/around the world
Psychedelic Gleam
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The only happy thing about the ending was that the film was over.
vegan
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"it's a poor comparison"
why?
(when answering, remember that i said "aesthetics and contex")
you can compare VY Canis Majoris and the sun. that doesn't demean VY Canis Majoris
comparisons are used to compare things which have similarities ; not necessarily to put them on the same level
if you can't see how cidade de deus was an inspiration for slumdog (= the similarities), watch them again
can you give examples of movies which were more obvious inspirations than cidade de deus?
vegan
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i'd say that the best thing about the end was the dancing part. that added a star to the rating of the film
bollywood dancing is life
for the anecdote, i did 3 days as an extra in a bollywood movie filmed here in the club that burned on new year's eve (santika)
off my list of things i had to do in my life
L O V E L I F E
Bluelighter
Does "beauty" count for ANYTHING for some of you who somehow dislike this masterpiece?
The cinematography, the game show gimmick, the flashbacks, the child acting, the Bollywood feel-good-ness of it, and yes, THE LOVE STORY.
To me, this was simply an absolutely beautiful piece of art.
Beautiful.
The cinematography, the game show gimmick, the flashbacks, the child acting, the Bollywood feel-good-ness of it, and yes, THE LOVE STORY.
To me, this was simply an absolutely beautiful piece of art.
Beautiful.
RedLeader
Bluelight Crew
LOVELIFE, I was one of the people to go off on this movie. I don't know if you read my novel a few pages back, but I'll say a few quick things.
The movie is beautiful for many people, it's not that us critics aren't giving you that. The love story is very pure and sweet, and reminds of simple things which are often overlooked. I did feel moved after watching this movie. Just like millions of others, including yourself. It wasn't like I wanted to walk out of the movie, felt bored at any given time, or anything like that.
My beef with the movie is that it is both historically inaccurate and in many ways historically/currently misleading about socio/political conditions in India. It does this in a way that only Indian nationals and foreigners abreast of globial politics and condition, past and present, will even really catch. Major audiances don't know anything about India, so they have no reason to assume that all of the negative portrayals in this movie aren't as they appear here; we fall in love with two Indians, while gaining a bad taste about the other billion-minus-two.
Now I can see that it's a fantasy, and fantasies are not always accurate. However, I feel that the degree to which laypersons seeing this movie will understand what is fantasy and what is reality with respect to all things India is all over the place. And to this degree, it is exploitative of a culture which actually does know where all of the fact/fantasy lines are drawn. Nothing good is given about India's development into a world power - we're led to believe that only scoundrals can naturally succeed, which is blatently false.
I personally just do not feel personally justified in accepting that this film as beautiful to me. The potential offense to those of Indian natality/decent through the indifference of mainstream audiances over how in/accurately this movie works beyond the love story effects me on levels beyond the lovestory.
As for the beauty of love, the one that got to me like nothing else was Enternal Sunshine.
The movie is beautiful for many people, it's not that us critics aren't giving you that. The love story is very pure and sweet, and reminds of simple things which are often overlooked. I did feel moved after watching this movie. Just like millions of others, including yourself. It wasn't like I wanted to walk out of the movie, felt bored at any given time, or anything like that.
My beef with the movie is that it is both historically inaccurate and in many ways historically/currently misleading about socio/political conditions in India. It does this in a way that only Indian nationals and foreigners abreast of globial politics and condition, past and present, will even really catch. Major audiances don't know anything about India, so they have no reason to assume that all of the negative portrayals in this movie aren't as they appear here; we fall in love with two Indians, while gaining a bad taste about the other billion-minus-two.
Now I can see that it's a fantasy, and fantasies are not always accurate. However, I feel that the degree to which laypersons seeing this movie will understand what is fantasy and what is reality with respect to all things India is all over the place. And to this degree, it is exploitative of a culture which actually does know where all of the fact/fantasy lines are drawn. Nothing good is given about India's development into a world power - we're led to believe that only scoundrals can naturally succeed, which is blatently false.
I personally just do not feel personally justified in accepting that this film as beautiful to me. The potential offense to those of Indian natality/decent through the indifference of mainstream audiances over how in/accurately this movie works beyond the love story effects me on levels beyond the lovestory.
As for the beauty of love, the one that got to me like nothing else was Enternal Sunshine.
mariacallas
Bluelight Crew
^Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is the bees knees. 
I agree that the intention of an artist is when creating a work is important, but perhaps in this case they were just trying to make a faithful adaptation of a novel written by an Indian?
Why is it that Indians don't like it? Do they find it patronising? Or is it a perception on their part that Westerners don't perceive the film the the way you do (as paying lipservice to the real issues in order to make a good movie)? Sorry if that's hard to understand! I'll try again: Do Indians see the film the way you do, and are disappointed that Westerners do not 'see through' the film?
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AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
^Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is the bees knees.
Eternal Sunshine was so true and real. I might agree that no other film I have watched has encompassed the realities of a relationship like that.
I have yet to see Slumdog (don't kill me LOVELIFE
) but I will shortly.
RedLeader
Bluelight Crew
^Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is the bees knees.
I watched Eternal Sunshine exactly one week after breaking up with my first girlfriend (of two years). I had NO IDEA what I was walking into, and quite honestly it was just all so much that for very long I had a love/hate relationship to the film. Then I watched it a few years later in a much better place of mind and that's when I realised what a gem it truly is. God, I might even go rent it right now
Oh ya, if I am going off topic, er umm...Redleader dosen't like Slumdog Millionare!