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Drug Abuse Amongst Doctors

OverDriven said:
I'm sure some do it, but most doctors I know take their jobs very seriously and wouldn't even consider risking the remote chance of being caught. It would not only end their career permanently, but it would ruin their life as they would get jail time and it would be all over the news. The risk far outweighs the benefit. It takes at least 12 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a doctor. It also takes an incredible amount of determination, skill, drive and perseverance. Most of the people who make it to the end are the polar opposite of the type of people who typically exhibit drug seeking behavior. They are typically very satisfied with their quality of life, and let's face it...the majority of hard drug users take drugs to escape from life problems. Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of doctors who do, just as there is corruption in almost any profession, but I think it's more of a rare exception.
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i don't have statistics but i think drug abuse is actually more common among doctors than a lot of other professions. reasons for this could be the stress of working as a doctor, combined with the access to and knowledge of how to use various drugs.
 
yeah just get your mate to come visit you for a 'medical problem' prescribe him what ever *you* want, he goes and gets the script filled and you either split it if hes a druggie too or you could pay him(not like you dont have enough doe, if your a doc)

Im fairly certain this is how most docs do it, and yes i would say theres alot of druggie docs.
 
My sister is a nurse practioner, and you are forgetting some ways of 'scoring' per se, if you are a medical professional.

There are always ( in most docs offices) drug returns. Pain meds that caused side effects grandma didnt like, so she asked to have the script changed. Brings in her (mostly) full bottle of oxycodone, and they write her hydro. These *should* be destroyed i.e., thrown out and documented. In all 4 docs offfices I have worked so dfar, this doesnt happen.

Then we have left overs.... say nurse one is instructed to give patient Smith a dose of 10 mg hydrocodone for her migraine. Meanwhile, patient Johnson begins voilently vomitting after she checks the med out of the locker.... she checks patient Johnson, forgets she has Smiths dose in her pocket, and checks out another. Voila.... 10 mg hydro for her trip home.

And lets not ever forget the hazardous bin..... Need to give one shot of morphine, the rest of the ampule into the bin. Do you think all this goes back to be checked? NO.

As far as docs go, I can't say. But I have at least 10 friends who are nurses and of those all 10 use recreationally, ether benzos or opiates.

And its very simple to get them.

No, a doc can not prescribe for himself, but of his trusted nurse pulls her back helping a patient into bed, he will often write out a 60 count script of sch 3 meds pretty easily.

This is forsthand info in my area of the country. And remember all safety and check measures only require two signatures of nurses.... nurses are thicker than theives when working together 12 hour shifts year after year.
 
^ very true. most people wouldn't think of those things, either.



TheMatador said:
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the man that is featured in that article is a fellow bluelighter, we're proud to have him :)
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oh yeah! i forgot.

it IS true.. he's a member on this board. PainDoc or something of the sort.
 
Fail Fighter said:
I don't know about doctors per say, but I know a pharmacist who will sell you entire bottles of whatever you want. No prescription necessary. So yeah, a virtual buffet as you put it. I don't understand how he doesn't catch the notice of the DEA seeing as he regularly sells entire bottles of Oxycontin, Dilaudid, etc.

That's crazy stuff. Doctors make a lot of money, so it certainly isn't worth the legal ramifications. Pharmacists make quite a bit less than private practitioners, so I can see how they'd be more likely to go crooked. Plus they are physically surrounded by pills all day. I know the pharmacists are especially tempted when they're supposed to throw out expired meds. Would you rather destroy a bottle of 500 expired narcotic pills, or sell it unscrupulously for $2,000?
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Pharmacists, on average, make 100,000 and up. So, I don't really agree with your statement at all. Sure, they don't make as much as doctors, but they have just as much riding on the line as doctors do.
 
Tomer said:
Pharmacists, on average, make 100,000 and up. So, I don't really agree with your statement at all. Sure, they don't make as much as doctors, but they have just as much riding on the line as doctors do.
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It's not that hard to believe since you can see stories here of people losing everything for drugs. It's just the mentality of testing the waters thinking you'll never get caught and never get addicted. Then the habit increases because of the availability. Lots of people have the "it'll never happen to me" mentality.
 
Tomer said:
Pharmacists, on average, make 100,000 and up. So, I don't really agree with your statement at all. Sure, they don't make as much as doctors, but they have just as much riding on the line as doctors do.
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Exactly. The average pharmacist around here makes about $100k, which is barely enough to support a family (where I live at least). But private practice docs make on average over $200k. That's a huge difference.
 
zekethemusicman said:
where the fuck do you live?
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Southern California :\. The average new home in my city costs $900k. The average new home in my neighboring city costs $1.1M. I was actually renting just a bedroom for 4 years and my monthly rent was $750. I had a friend living in Vegas at the time who was paying that much to rent an entire house!

Maybe that's why we also have a lot of doctors and pharmacists getting busted out here in the Los Angeles/Hollywood area. My roommate actually died in his sleep after taking too many Norcos and drinking too much. The police investigated it and found out that he was going to a doctor that was handing out opiate scripts like candy. In all, 6 local kids died from overdosing on pills that they got from this doctor :X. And the doctor was acquitted of all charges after the DEA couldn't pin him. Pain is a subjective condition, so proving that these kids weren't actually in pain was not possible. When the feds searched the doctor's house, they found over a million dollars in cash! The doctor was said to be making $8,000/day by selling scripts to patients for $200 cash.

I know of quite a few doctors and pharmacists who are crooked around here. Like I've already stated, the pharmacists like to sell off pills that are "expired," even though we all know narcotics are good for a very long time after the exp. date. So instead of destroying them, they sell them for a quick couple thousand dollars.
 
The doctor featured in that men's health piece is a bluelighter (maybe greenlighter)... I can't remember his name but his very informative blog is here.

Also, he was not stealing any medicine from his patients, just taking unnoticeable amounts of fentanyl as far as I know.
 
Just finished reading it.

Wow.

If I ever had a family member have that happen to them for those reasons, I don't think I would be able to control myself from literally killing the doctor. And not in the quick shot the head way neither. Nice and slow.

Fucking scumbags.
 
when my gf went to rehab she was with a anesthetic doctor.... who would steal the extra stuff left after surgery.... he would even order more than needed and pocket it...
 
I neverf ran across a Doc who gave out scripts,not that I wasnt looking,but i've heard many stories of Doc who hand out scripts.
i thought of being a Pharmasist,but figured I wouldnt last too long.
 
my father told me (he's an emergency physician now) that the most prominent users of pharmaceuticals in an illegitimate manner were the last year med-students doing internships. As they had access to the drugs but were still in a fairly experimentative mind-set
 
Lysergic, I partially agree with your statement.

It's not really that they are in "experiemental mode" but it's more like, they have so much on the line and work so many hours, many of them tend to abuse amphetamines and speed.

It's their future, and if it takes abusing a certain drug/s for a period of time, it's more than worth it to them (I agree). This is what I have heard about many med students. It's more out of necessity than recreation
 
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