Subjective Effects of 2CB Compared to Other 2C Substances

[ikkyu]

Perhaps. You could just try plugging it after all, if you're comfortable with that. I can't speak from experience, but it sounds like most people are able to significantly diminish the unpleasant body effects of 2Cs when going that route.

And if you smoke cannabis, it really makes a difference with 2C-E both body-wise and in terms of visuals (far more vivid that way).

 

[grimble crumble]

I use to be very curious about all the RC's but ever since my last couple of mushroom trips ive realized that mushrooms are satisfying all of my psychedelic needs so far im much more experienced with them now and able to do much more with them now then when i was just starting out. Sometimes I feel like people just go from substance to substance hoping to find that "golden one" or something but they dont realize that which drug you take is only half the ingredients. your part of this whole thing to people. its sounds stupid but as you gain more experience as a tripper your trips change

that being said i still have a huge craving to try 2c-d . it always seemed like a real jewel from talks ive had with people.

only had a brief source for it on a different board a while back but never took advantage of it =/

 

[indigoaura]

I have read a few comments that indicate a headache following use of 2C-I. I get this with 2C-B. Does anyone else get headaches following 2C-B use? It can be relatively intense. It is pretty much the only side effect I get however. I also get the tremor that was mentioned in association with 2C-E.

Thanks for the great info everyone, I really appreciate it!

 

[ikkyu]

I didn't get a headache my one time with 2C-B, but I was eating kratom and bumping ketamine afterward, both of which prevent/eliminate headaches for me.

 

[PsychedelicDoctor]

I use to be very curious about all the RC's but ever since my last couple of mushroom trips ive realized that mushrooms are satisfying all of my psychedelic needs so far im much more experienced with them now and able to do much more with them now then when i was just starting out. Sometimes I feel like people just go from substance to substance hoping to find that "golden one" or something but they dont realize that which drug you take is only half the ingredients. your part of this whole thing to people. its sounds stupid but as you gain more experience as a tripper your trips change=/

I think a better analogy is a menu, a buffet, different restaurant, or ethnic flavors. From personal experience, and this is the vibe I get from most people here, we have found plenty that works, but there's that sense of adventure in the novel.

 

[Coolio]

I don't doubt you experienced great things.

I will agree LSD's visuals can be very geometric and mathetmatical. But for me there is no limit to what LSD can make me see, when we're talking about sensory and visual candy.

One time I was looking into the mirror and I saw myself age until I was 80. Then I snapped out of that "notion" and suddenly my head looked completely alien, I did not look human. Then suddenly I realized it was all my mind playing the tricks, literally. I thought, "i want to look like a werewolf", then suddenly I started looking like my idea of a werewolf, and my head was progressively changing in infinite ways.

It was amazing.

Another time on LSD I saw my friend and he consisted only of energy and the energy he was emmiting was the same energy I felt as the exact same time.

It was really profound, we are all energy!

I've had too many cool sights on LSD, never a dull moment = )

killo... this is what every psychedelic drug does. You must be taking high doses of LSD and low doses of everything else.

 

[delta_9]

I find phenethylamines pretty boring but 2c-e was indeed a great experience, and I will likely use it again. I dont have much further interest in the rest of the 2c-* family.

 

[d-Dexter-25]

I'm going to give my two cents here because of my extensive experience with the 2Carbon phenethylamines as they are my favorite class of psychedelics. I've tried everyone pretty much thats on the erowid psychoactive list other then 2C-T-4 and 2C-T-21. I've also been wanting to try 2C-B-FLY but thats not really a normal 2C-x substance due to there being a much more substitution on the 2,5 positions which actually connect to the 3,6 positions so in my non chemist opinion its not a 2C-x compound.

I find 2C-B to be very visual but also very light on the mind and is very good for recreational use. I actually found that most 2C-x substances are very light on the mind and mostly recreational in effects with the exception of a few. 2C-E is obviously the main example of a 2Carbon phentheylamine with strong mind expanding effects. Now a few others like 2C-T-7 also has in some people alot of mindfuck and profound mind effects.

Now sticking to the original posters thread i'll try to explain the effects compared to 2C-B on each phenethylamine i've tried...

2C-I - Now as much as people compare the two I find these two as far as 2C-x substances are concerned nothing really alike other then being 2carbon phenethylamines. Now they both are strongly visual and both are gentle in thier effects. However 2C-I has alot more stimulation then 2C-B does and has completely different visual effects. 2C-I has persian carpet like visuals as its main visual effects with just increased depth of these same visuals as dosage is increased never acheiving those really far out visual effects that 2C-B can produce. 2C-I also produces alot more introspection and more psychedelic feeling mind and body effects but still remaining fairly clear headed. It also lasts alot longer then 2C-B does.

2C-C - Now this one does have alot of similarities but I could never achieve the same level of visuals as 2C-B and for me 2C-C felt negitive in some way I could never put a pin on. Actually its kind of hard for me to think how 2C-C is different then 2C-B actually its almost the same but i've only had limited experiences with 2C-C so maybe I just did'nt relieaze it. Some people say 2C-C is sedating almost opiate like but it felt the same as 2C-B to me in the body.

2C-E - This is different then 2C-B in almost everyway possible other then being a 2Carbon and is very powerful and has visuals that are even stronger then 2C-B which is saying something for me atleast. However there is a dark demonic feeling to this material which makes it unnerving in higher doses. I'm not a big fan of this dark side of the chemical but other then that the profound awe produced by it is interesting in a LSD like way!!!

2C-D - I only tried this substance twice but both times were really mild and even though I doubled the dose from 15 to 30mg both dosages were the same in intensity. It was a decent substance but with my limited experience with it i'm not sure what its all about. I would say its effects for me were similar to low dose 2C-I but much shorter in duration.

2C-T-2 - For this was similar to 2C-B but it had different visual effects that were unique although still very close. It had some bodyload especially nausea and headache as well but still very mild not enough to vomit or anything. It was a decent chemical but it was'nt as "fun" as 2C-B more for just a novielty experience.

2C-T-7 - Now this one is a decent substance that other then bodyload I found to be an excellent psychedelic!!! It was like 2C-B and mescaline in that it was gentle but powerful in its visual effects but like mescaline it had some initial nausea. Once it passed it became a blooming beautiful experience that I wish to repeat many times and I will be very soon!!! One thing about 2C-T-7 is that in higher doses it has extreme psychedelic effects far beyond what 2C-B could ever produce except in extreme doses maybe. The thing about this is that 18mg produced powerful but totally controlable effects and just 22mg produced out of this world psychedelica that was waaaaayyy too strong to be controlable!!!

 

[egor]

It's nowhere as useful or enlightening as LSD, spiritually.

It's still a fake feeling of stimulation.

LSD gives me a sense of natural energy and true vibrations.

All the RC's including 2c's and DOx have very limited visuals also. They are always the same subjective thing over and over, the visuals are intense and sometimes more encompasing than LSD but they are not very profound.

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with your ideas about 2c-x's and DOx's; DOC is hands down the most intensely single substance I have tried...

 

[indigoaura]

Seems like different psychadelics affect different people in different ways. What sends one person to god may leave another home on the couch feeling stoned. LOL.

D-dexter-25, thanks for the detailed post. Funny you mention the demons regarding 2C-E, my husband experienced that on 2C-B at high doses too.

 

[d-Dexter-25]

Seems like different psychadelics affect different people in different ways. What sends one person to god may leave another home on the couch feeling stoned. LOL.

D-dexter-25, thanks for the detailed post. Funny you mention the demons regarding 2C-E, my husband experienced that on 2C-B at high doses too.

Every psychedelic can be demonic in high doses or some people but some materials produce more negative demonic feelings then others. I find the tryptamines to be the biggest offender here and phenethylamines generally being alot more pleasant even in high doses.

 

[indigoaura]

What has everyone noticed regarding tolerence?

I find that I need higher doses now than I did when I first started using 2CB. If I took a long break, would I be able to use the lower doses again? Is it anything like MDMA where there is a risk for permanently altering the effectiveness of the compound through overuse? I do not take 2CB very often, but it is so enjoyable I would like to make certain I can enjoy it in the future.

 

[d-Dexter-25]

I've noticed that with ALL psychedelics over time and usage they not only have a decreased effect but also change the actual experience some too!!! Kinda like it was better smoking weed when I first started as a kid but now its not the same and for me is'nt even pleasurable anymore. With psychedelics the change is'nt bad but there is a difference now with psychedelics in general compared to when I first started!!!

 

[Al_S_Dee]

I find 2C-x compounds to be more recreational where as LSD and tryptamines a bit more introspective.
Looking forward to finding time for DOC! I read it lasts +12 hours so it's a big time commitment.

 

[Dinker]

Come on guys, you know it's not fair to compare any substance to LSD.

 

[Freeotrope]

I would be curious to know what the representative sample numbers are -how many times have you taken each drug? In my experience there is high variability with psychedelics, so the number of experiments has to be high for there to be in any significance to these reports in my opinion.

Then there is of course the tricky entanglement of expectation...

How is it that we still do not have a standard protocol for making these reports?

 

[ebola?]

comparison w/ 2cb-fly?

 

[indigoaura]

I would be curious to know what the representative sample numbers are -how many times have you taken each drug? In my experience there is high variability with psychedelics, so the number of experiments has to be high for there to be in any significance to these reports in my opinion.

Then there is of course the tricky entanglement of expectation...

How is it that we still do not have a standard protocol for making these reports?

Is this question directed at me? If so, I would have a very hard time determining how many times I have done 2CB.

I would guess around 40 times maybe since late 2005.

 

[Freeotrope]

Is this question directed at me? If so, I would have a very hard time determining how many times I have done 2CB.

I would guess around 40 times maybe since late 2005.

Not just to you but everyone.

I would think 40 times would would make the statistics significant

I took mushrooms the other day and for some reason it was much less visual than usual - if I had taken some other compound I may have characterized that compound as not being very visual when it would have been my own variability. Also I friend who weighs the same had the same dose of the homogeneous mushroom powder and they had a very visual trip.

 

[d-Dexter-25]

Come on guys, you know it's not fair to compare any substance to LSD.

Bullshit there are plenty of materials that rival LSD and some are far better in many ways. LSD is unique but its not the best for alot of situations such as going out into public which on something like 2C-B would be alot better. Also yes LSD is very deep but it also can feel toxic too and the comedown can be horrible if you don't have any opiates or benzos on hand!!!

Don't get me wrong LSD is one of the greats but people need to get off this whole LSD nothing compares bullshit!!! Maybe for chilling at home with a few close friends with activities like drawing and conversation its good and maybe even the best for those really far off trips with alot of mindfuck. However for almost all other situations I believe there are better options!!!