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Who are your favorite movie villains?

Dwight Hansen, This Boys Life (Robert De Niro):

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AMAZING choice. I love this movie (the book is great too).
 
Not to derail the thread, but I've never cared for Star Wars and that scene was just silly. Obi Wan fights him for almost six minutes then kills him at the end in three seconds with a gun. Why didn't he just shoot him in the first place?
 
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Why? That depends on who you ask.

Star Wars geek: "The light saber is an honorable Jedi weapon, unlike a blaster."

Filmmaker: "It's cinematic, and gives you six minutes more for your money. Just as well for $9.50, right?"

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"Nobody gives it to you - you have to take it."
-Frances Costello, The Departed

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"Guilt is like a bag of fucking bricks. All you gotta is set it down"
John Milton, The Devil's Advocate

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"Give our guests five minutes to leave... or throw them overboard."
Le Chiffre, Casino Royale

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"They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
Yuri Orlov, Lord of War

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"And then you meet someone special and all you want to do is toss them the key. Say "Open up. Step inside." But you can't, because it's dark, and there are demons. And if anybody saw how ugly it is..."
Tom Ripley, The Talented Mr. Ripley
 
Not to derail the thread, but I've never cared for Star Wars and that scene was just silly. Obi Wan fights him for almost six minutes then kills him at the end in three seconds with a gun. Why didn't he just shoot him in the first place?

The Jedi are not just fighting a battle, they are fighting a war against evil that spans many lifetimes and many villains. The light saber is a tool of negotiation, of diplomacy, as it gives the dark side a chance to change heart. If it was just a battle for bodies, then there are certainly more efficient ways to kill as many of the other side's team as possible. But then what of the ideals the jedi stand for?
 
The Jedi are not just fighting a battle, they are fighting a war against evil that spans many lifetimes and many villains. The light saber is a tool of negotiation, of diplomacy, as it gives the dark side a chance to change heart. If it was just a battle for bodies, then there are certainly more efficient ways to kill as many of the other side's team as possible. But then what of the ideals the jedi stand for?

Ok, so the Jedi are too noble to kill their enemies efficiently...what's the excuse for the Sith? Considering Anakin straight-up murders a bunch of kids with his saber in the third movie and Vader blows up Alderaan, it doesn't seem like they're willing to pull punches, yet they still wield sabers. I think you're looking too far into things. I think Lucas' thought process went something along the lines of "light sabers are cool...gymnastics are cool...Episode One will have excessive amounts of both!"
 
The same rule also applies to the Sith. The Jedi don't have the American vs. Japan attitude of the 1940's - it's not just a math equation based on death toll. The ultimate test of the Jedi's success is the change in the universal force.
 
When Jackal came out in 1997, I went to theaters and saw it. It was seriously my favorite movie. I kept hoping the Jackal would win - I would give anything for a movie about a bad guy that ends like Ocean's 11, where Clair de Lune is playing in the background and they all have that glaze of success in their eyes. It would have been nice to have Jackal succeed, and then show the mechanics of escaping the country, getting the Visas, and spending money on a nice place, finding a nice girl, and trading stocks for the rest of his life, perhaps even starting a hedge fund that becomes super-successful, eventually being invited back to the U.S. to shake hands with the president and first lady under a different identity.
 
The same rule also applies to the Sith.

Clearly they don't, though. The avowed goal of the Sith is to exterminate the Jedi and rule the Empire, not to uphold the rules of some silly religion. It's more like the Germany vs. Jews attitude of the 1940s.
 
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