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the official 08-09 NFL thread

yeah, vegas must have shit bricks over that last minute change by the refs (who were terrible all game).

the line was what, plus 5 Steelers?
 
i know it sucks to see a bad call go against your team but blaming a loss on it is lame. if you don't want to lose by a point because of a shitty decision, score another field goal before it happens...

alasdair
 
you are mistaken. the Steelers, which I will always associate as "my team," won the game regardless. they won by a point, we are just pointing out the heartbreak Vegas must have experienced because the line was plus 5 in favor of Pittsburgh. therefore, Pitt winning by one point didn't help most people. the two calls that were returned, a holding call on a Pitt touchdown (which was legit) negated a touchdown. the second call, to which the refs are STILL debating over which pass they were talking about (the call was against a foreword pass that wasn't conclusive enough to overturn) was a little shoddy, and also negated a last minute field goal.
 
hey, it's a perfectly legal system operating inside the boundaries of our great Constitution.

also, I feel bad for the REAL losers in that game - the NFL fantasy nerds. imagine if you were playing the Steelers defense? there goes your whole upper hand. it is sad to say that the NFL has a right to the integrity of play calling (to Vegas and fantasy football nerds), even if the game will be won by the winning team anyways, but isn't calling the right plays the job description for a professional referee?
 
You're right axl, there is absolutely no excuse for them to get that call wrong. They even had the benefit of a video review, and though it clearly showed touchdown they still REVERSED the call on the field. The referees explanation after the game made no sense, either.

“We should have let the play go through in the end, yes,” Green said. “It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through.”

Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about which lateral was in question.

“The first pass was the one that was illegal, but it only kills the play if it hits the ground,” Green said. “That was incorrect to have killed it at that point. The ruling should have let the play go on. That’s just the way that it played out. We believe the second pass was legal.”

Green was asked why, since the ball didn’t hit the ground during any of the tossing, the officials decided after huddling that the play should have ended.

“We didn’t kill it on the field,” Green said. “After (the) discussion we decided … there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground and therefore we killed the play there.”
 
These, are, in my opinion, the *best* (*not* necessarily the teams who have accomplished the most in the first ten weeks of the season) - but, rather - i rated the teams in the order of which teams i think would beat each other in a high-pressure neutral -field hypothetical play-off game played next week:

(01.) colts
(02.) cowboys
(03.) titans
(04.) giants
(05.) chargers
(06.) steelers
(07.) jets
(08.) patriots
(09.) packers
(10.) dolphins
 
GenericMind said:
How about the Rams? Talk about a turnaround. They've looked great since they switched coaches. 2 victories out of the last 3 with them almost beating the Patriots today. Bulger looked pretty good.
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And then they promptly went back into the shitter. :X All things considered, I still think Haslett should be the coach next year. As for Bulger, I'm still undecided. I feel bad for the guy; his o-line is leaving him out to die, and he has no running game to work with at the moment. That being said, his game has regressed considerably over the last two years, and I'm not sure if he can pull himself out of it, even with new personnel next year.
 
It's not heating up here in Buffalo. There's no question right now that Edwards will remain the starting quarterback.

I certainly hope(and suspect) that they'll end their slump this week. The defense played great last week and the special teams was amazing. Once Edwards shakes this off they'll be right back in the race.
 
his three interception start against the Browns easily dug the team into an early whole. they are lucky it was against the Browns, who still have not yet found their offensive heart with Brady Quinn, and that they only scored like 10 points off of those turnovers.

if the playoffs started today in the AFC we would have the #5 Colts at the #4 Broncos, and the #6 Ravens at the #3 Jets. the Steelers and the Titans would be waiting respectively with homefield advantage.

if the playoffs started today in the NFC we would have the #5 Bucs at the #4 Packers, and the #6 Redskins at the #3 Cardinals. the Giants and the Panthers would be waiting respectively with homefield advantage.

does anybody else see this current structure getting shaken up at all in the final 5 or 6 weeks of NFL play? does anybody see any teams on the outside looking in perhaps getting a spot? maybe the Patriots or Dolphins over the Ravens in the AFC?
 
I think there's definitely room for some late-season maneuvering in the AFC East and the NFC South. Is there a less intimidating division leader than Carolina? I could easily see Atlanta sneaking in. By the way, I don't count anyone as actually "leading" the NFC North right now. For my money, that's the worst division in football. At least the NFC West has one good team. The NFC North has two downright crappy teams (Chicago, Minnesota), one slightly-less-crappy team (Green Bay) and one Division II team.
 
while I used to shit on the NFC North 'till my fingers were numb last year and the years before that, I think that they are not horrible this year all-together. at the very least the AFC West is most certainly the worst division in the NFL, with the lowly Denver Broncos leading the pack with a very weak record.
 
silverwheel said:
I think there's definitely room for some late-season maneuvering in the AFC East and the NFC South. Is there a less intimidating division leader than Carolina? I could easily see Atlanta sneaking in. By the way, I don't count anyone as actually "leading" the NFC North right now. For my money, that's the worst division in football. At least the NFC West has one good team. The NFC North has two downright crappy teams (Chicago, Minnesota), one slightly-less-crappy team (Green Bay) and one Division II team.
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How's Green Bay crappy? They've been plagued by injuries this year, but they're far from crappy.
 
axl blaze said:
while I used to shit on the NFC North 'till my fingers were numb last year and the years before that, I think that they are not horrible this year all-together. at the very least the AFC West is most certainly the worst division in the NFL, with the lowly Denver Broncos leading the pack with a very weak record.
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AFC West is pretty bad, but you can't say you're not surprised that the Chargers are where they are. I'd argue for the NFC West being the worst in football, with the Cardinals leading the pack. But with the 49'ers, Seahawks and Rams offering competition, it's no surprise.
 
Look at the Colts' remaining schedule, that fact that San Diego and/or New England (their two usual nemeses) might very well MISS THE PLAY-OFFS altogether, and tell me that the Colts don't have a reasonable shot to have BY FAR the greatest quarterback in the league lead his team on a four game winning streak in January, and steal this season's Super Bowl.
 
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