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Drugs fuel terrorism

im not trying to call you a liar or anything, but that sounds alittle like some conspiricy theory to me. also its the majority of marijuana grown domestically with the small rest coming from mexico?
 
money can come from alot more than just one source. drug money could fuel anything. So could any other kind of money. Blame terrorist organizations, not illegal drugs.
 
foodisgood said:
im not trying to call you a liar or anything, but that sounds alittle like some conspiricy theory to me. also its the majority of marijuana grown domestically with the small rest coming from mexico?
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Sure, I bet allot of pot is still domestically produced, but how many people do you know with a poppy field? or a coca plantation?
 
It depends what the government says is a 'terrorist organization'.
If the group has the same goals as the government they're considered at best partners, at worst a cartel.
If they have a different ideology that seems dangerous to the government, then they are evil-doer scum bag terrorists.
It's all about perspective.
I think because drugs are illegal the money made from drugs is used for all sorts of awful shit. Even down to that ridiculous gold chain and stupid adidas track suit your dealer wears. Or the guns that spark neighborhood violence bought by profits from drug sales. All the way up to the financing major wars. It's crazy. So yeah drugs somewhat fund terrorism. Depending on what you consider terrorism.

Like the United states backing the semi-terrorist illegal activities. Like overthrowing drug dealers or governments. Like the US backing of los pepes to over throw Pablo Escobar. I guess it's not terrorism if they don't like the same people we don't like.
 
SmokingMan said:
Looks like some here have the idea.
The US gov imports opium, heroin and coke to fund black ops. They then declare drug users to be a scourge so therefore enacting a control on them. Problem, reaction, solution.
So actually instead of funding retail terrorism (Al Qaeda, IRA) illegal drugs wind up funding wholesale terrorism (US gov, CIA, DHS, Mossad). When large busts are seen, it's usually the initial agencies clamping down on the competition or offering up token busts to seem as they are combating the drug traffickers.
Most ecstasy in the US is run in by Israeli and Russian mafias so that funding goes to Zionists (not a racist comment here, just stating a fact) and Mossad .
Marijuana comes into the US from all over but mainly South American cartels. They don't engage in terrorist activity in the US but they sure aren't nice guys to folks in their own country.

Technically that claim of drugs funding terrorism is correct. However, the devil is in the details.
Like was mentioned above, you give more funding to terrorists by buying gas and paying your income tax.
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Dude the world isnt against you
 
In Lebanon the drug money goes to certain groups so definitely it would support terrorism.

But the hash farms and opium fields are not "terrorist controlled" it just may happen that the farmer of a particular field supports a certain party, Hizib'Allah, Phalangists, or whatnot, and of course some of the proceed goes to his party.

What I find ironic is that a lot of the ecstacy in Lebanon will have Hebrew characters on it and reputedly comes from Israel smuggled by Hizib'Allah (enemies of Israel)

:D
 
The afghani farmers and smugglers pay protection money. It's just a simple racket.

I really don't see them caring too much about the political movement of who they kick up to. They're just trying to survive. If they really did care, they'd probably join the movement in some other capacity.
 
phrozen said:
The afghani farmers and smugglers pay protection money. It's just a simple racket.

I really don't see them caring too much about the political movement of who they kick up to. They're just trying to survive. If they really did care, they'd probably join the movement in some other capacity.
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Well that is Afghanistan and this was Lebanon :p
 
euphoricnod said:
Dude the world isnt against you
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No, the world isn't against me. =D
The majority of the world is regular people like you and I who just do our regular day-to-day lives and hope for the best. An even smaller percentage are the more like minded to us that enjoy our mind and consciousness altering diversions and explorations and tend to be more open to the deeper truths of things.

The few who are "out to get us" (an over simplistic phrase but it will suffice for here) are the ones that are telling us that our chemical romances are bad because they financially support "the bad guys", i.e. terrorists. Now being a curious person I need to know the why's and how's of things. It starts with those authority figures saying all kinds of things about pot and of course I investigate and explore marijuana and find these things to be false. Why are they telling us these lies and what else are they lying to us about?

So the questions and investigations keep going as I find more and more of the world and reality that we like to vacation from is indeed fabrications for private agendas of those few propagating lies about how buying the wonderful cannabis plant supports terrorists.
About why rolling with friends listening to music and dancing and feeling unfettered love for each other and our world is a bad thing...
About why eating a mushroom and seeing another dimension existing underneath or on top of this one makes me a criminal...

So naturally I question it when my government tells me that by buying these naturally occurring plants or processed chemicals that I support terrorist activities. I just have found that's not the case and I'm actually financially supporting the ones starting and continuing these lies as opposed to the ones that they label as our enemies.
 
CloudyHazeD said:
Sure, I bet allot of pot is still domestically produced, but how many people do you know with a poppy field? or a coca plantation?
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Just look on ebay for poppy pods. There's literally thousands for sale by just one of those sellers. Those pods are supposedly grown in Arizona, Florida, California, etc. And, of course poppies will grow anywhere, they seed themselves very well, as far North as Greenland. Whole fields grow wild in some places, even in the US.

Good coca is a little tougher to grow, as you need higher elevation, and a steady climate, but Im sure there's plenty of places in the US where people can and probably do grow it.
 
Why do third-world countries grow drugs? If you look at Colombia's history, for example, you see just how much the US have CREATED this situation and are still feeding it. Oh, see how right-wing ideology created not only a poor economy, but also the political instability for armed groups to fight each other? Vast expanses of fertile land, concentrated in the hands of a few latifundieras who just park cattle on it; paras and private military companies paid thousands by the US to butcher Natives and capture socialist personalities in neighbouring countries... Just the tip of the iceberg, all you have to know is that the taxes the US people pay is much more money funding terrorists than you could dream of smoking/snorting/ shooting up. And I only know well of the Colombian situation, imagine the situation of the other so-called "narcoterrorists"...

Edit: third-world countries? Hell, where have I been? North america is a pretty big grower too... Maybe they want to encourage local economy with this propaganda.
 
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Whenever someone tries making this argument I point out that it's the illegal nature of drugs that results in the terrorists making money, and if drugs were legal they'd be distributed by legit companies and all that money would be taken out of the hands of terrorists and violent organized crime.
Of course all the stupid people then dig in to their stupid fantasies about 6 years old buying cocaine at the corner gas station, junkies shooting up in front of them and their kids at the playground and dropping dead, and seem to think a few more people experimenting with drugs is far worse than anything terrorists do.
 
I think this thread is a perfect reason to do meth instead of any other drugs(H, e, C)

I mean, most of its made domestically, so we are really just helping out our neighbors right? :P
 
Wrong. Most meth is now made in Mexico by cartels with superlabs. DEA just found a huge amount bricks of compressed almost pure methamphetamine. They bring it over in tractors and various other ways. Legalizing drugs would certainly cut down on overdoses (purity is consistent with safe/no cuts) and drug-related crime. It would also make the drugs cheaper. Not necessarily stating that it is the way to go, just saying think...
 
Ya know not everyone lives in the states.. seriously wtf is it with americans always assuming that everything is about there own country. I know for a fact that alot of countries meth sources are domestic.
 
9mmCensor said:
yes drug money probably goes to support terrorists. but so does buying a pint in some pubs or a donation to a charity, or buying a rug, or paying to get your dick sucked or any other financial transaction.
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phrozen said:
The fact that drugs are illegal and therefore fuel problems such as this is what's really immoral imo.
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Agreed, I was going to basically rewrite a farily long post I made in a similar thread in ADD, this basically sums up my opinion without citing examples of all the terror groups funded by drugs.
 
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