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4-Chloro-3,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine And Other Obscure PEAs

psilocybonaut

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I have a question about a few compounds that I have never heard of that I just got access to...

4-Chloro-3,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine hydrochloride
--->Is this 3C-C? What are the effects? Is it active? What about dose?

3,5-Dimethoxy-4-allyloxyphenethylamine
--->NEVER heard of this one. Active? Effects? Dose?

1-(8-Bromobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran-4-yl)-2-aminopropane hydrochloride (ABDF)
--->Some sort of amphetamine I believe from the 'aminopropane'. Is this one active? What about effects and dose?

Does anyone know anything about these compounds? Or would I have to order them and test them out? Thanks for your help.

Also, is pure crystalline Muscimol interesting? I know it's one of the active compounds in Amanita Muscaria, I'm wondering if the pure chemical has the same bad side effects as the Amanita Muscaria mushroom.
 
1-(8-Bromobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran-4-yl)-2-aminopropane is bromo-dragonfly

4-Chloro-3,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine I have seen referenced in the DEA request for info on phens from before web tryp, but that is the only thing I can come up with for that one:\
 
From the PIHKAL entry for DESOXY:

"A mescaline analogue with a bromo atom in place of the 4-methoxyl group is an analogue of mescaline in exactly the same way that DOB (a very potent am-phetamine) is an analog of TMA-2 (the original trisubstituted amphetamine). This analogue, 3,5-dimethoxy-4-bromoamphetamine, has been found to be a most effective serotonin agonist, and it is a possibility that it could be a most potent phenethylamine. But, as of the present time, it has never been assayed in man."
 
That's a curious one:

Considering 4-TE is similar in potency to 2C-T-2, maybe 4-Cl-3,5-DMPEA would of a similar strength to 2C-C.

OTOH, maybe it will act like 4-BR-3,5-DMA:

"Here is a complex and, at the moment, totally undefined drug. There were two independent reports of analgesia, yet a thorough screen in experimental animals, conducted by a major pharmaceutical house, failed to confirm any of it. A ++ report does not necessarily reflect a psychedelic effect, since this quantitative measure of the level of activity represents the extent of impairment of function, regardless of the nature of the drug producing it. In other words, if you were experiencing the effects of a drug that would in your judgment interfere with safe and good driving, this would be a ++ whether your performance was being limited by a psychedelic, a stimulant, a hypnotic or a narcotic. None of the quantitative reports ever mentioned any sensory distortion (analgesia is a loss, not a distortion) or visual effect. Perhaps 4-BR-3,5-DMA showed its ++ as a narcotic. But then, the rats had said no."

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal018.shtml
 
I read somewhere, maybe the hive, that the 4-chloro analogue of mescaline was active. And I read here that an unconfirmed report exists that 3,4,5-trichloro-PEA was also active. But I recall some doubts as to how reliable that report was. Here is a pic.

mesc_analogues.jpg


These true mescaline analogues (minus the dragonfly) really interest me. I think some could be just as much of a treasure as some of the 2Cs are. I think P, and the thio analogues of mescaline and escaline interest me the most. AL sounds good as well.
 
^^The 3Cs are amphetamines with the 3,4,5 pattern. The phens with the 3,4,5 pattern don't have a name as far as I'm aware. Maybe 4-xM for 4-substituted Mescaline).
 
i'm pretty interested in these myself. There is a large number of mescaline analogues that are active and do seem interesting. Isoproscaline comes to mind as well as the amphetamine homologues of a number of 3,4,5 PEAs
 
N-methylation greatly reduces psychoactivity (when it comes to phenethylamine hallucinogens), but there's no reason they wouldn't be possible.
 
^^ They are possible and can be synthesized. But their potency is usually lower.

^^^ Though I never tried mescaline, I am interested in these analogs too.
Proscaline is on my to-do list, but it doesn't sound very interesting, so I am not sure when I will try this one. In contrast, isoproscaline seems to be much more worthwhile. But is it available on the market?
 
^^ They are possible and can be synthesized. But their potency is usually lower.

^^^ Though I never tried mescaline, I am interested in these analogs too.
Proscaline is on my to-do list, but it doesn't sound very interesting, so I am not sure when I will try this one. In contrast, isoproscaline seems to be much more worthwhile. But is it available on the market?

Its out there if you feel like blowing a couple grand on a custom synthesis, but other than that its not available.
 
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