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Stimulants 4-fluoroamphetamine

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GreenBarts

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has anyone done it? if so what did you think. One report on erowid but i think im going to get some. Heard it was quite like MDMA in some aspects, but i dont know?
 
GreenBarts said:
lol. well i guess, have you done it?
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Good stuff, 120mg found to be evry empathogenic. Combination with 180mg Methylone yielded in a total empathogenic overkill. Fun time! Don't EVER snort it though, that stuff will do severe damage to your nose and will also hurt like hell!

crOOk
 
crOOk said:
Good stuff, 120mg found to be evry empathogenic. Combination with 180mg Methylone yielded in a total empathogenic overkill. Fun time!
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I know someone wanting to try this combination, which one was taken first?
 
kapow said:
I know someone wanting to try this combination, which one was taken first?
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Both at the same time, it's probably a smart idea to take the 4-FA first, cause the Methylone doesn't last very long.

crOOk
 
the 4FA is cool stuff. The empathogenic effects last for the first 3 hours or so, then you have a nice 12 hour ride in anorexic amphetamine land. but thats alright, it still a pretty usefull place. It definatly makes your feelings boil right to the surface like MDMA does.
 
As well as under "4-fa", try a search under "4-fmp", which many people were calling this at one time. Actually, don't include the dashes as the search engine doesn't like them. SWIM has a bit of this in storage and looks forward to trying it sometime...it's too bad there aren't more reports out there to help establish a more definitive dosage range.

Crook, did you ever try smaller doses? What was the result?

There is a 4-fa/methylone combo report here
 
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djfriendly said:
As well as under "4-fa", try a search under "4-fmp", which many people were calling this at one time. Actually, don't include the dashes as the search engine doesn't like them. SWIM has a bit of this in storage and looks forward to trying it sometime...it's too bad there aren't more reports out there to help establish a more definitive dosage range.

Crook, did you ever try smaller doses? What was the result?

There is a 4-fa/methylone combo report here
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I tried 60mg and (surprisingly!) found it to be very empathogenic at that dose as well. I rarely do other empathogens though, once or twice per year maybe. I was able to sleep after 6 or 7 hours, I usually have a hard time sleeping after any kind of stimulating drug (even 7 hours after intake of 4-hydroxy/phosphoroxy/acetoxy-tryptamines I'm not able to sleep), so it kinda surprised me. So after all, the effects didn't seem to be that much less intense, but a lot shorter.

crOOk
 
No wonder after effects suck at that dose. I was totally satisfied at 120mg (167lbs) and didn't have any negative after effects at all.
But hey, I guess that's the price you pay for getting the most out of it. :D

crOOk
 
combines well with 2C-B-FLY, methylone, 2C-T-21.

active dose of 4FA is 10mg - no empathogenics but beats 3 cups of coffee.

20mg 4FA / 5mg selegeline 1000mg l-phenylalanine 15mg propranolol = nice day gardening.

taken it up to 300mg, gets rough there. vision affected for over 20 hours.

may be habitforming.
 
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I am taking tramadol is it safe to combine 4floura stimulant with a dose of 100mg tram???Will the tramadol make the high more effective so able to use less of the stimulant?
 
^very bad combo. tramadol lowers your seizure threshold and 4FA can cause cramping - draw your own conclusions.
 
Methylone, SSRIs, 4-fa... all the fun us SSRI users can't have.

:(

I guess it could be a whole lot worse though.
 
^^ get the fuck off any SSRIS they are fucked bro. ive been on 5 different ones, never helped me and you gotta ween of them shits.
 
GreenBarts said:
^^ get the fuck off any SSRIS they are fucked bro. ive been on 5 different ones, never helped me and you gotta ween of them shits.
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Unless you're a doctor (or someone with equivalent pharmacological/medical knowledge) and know why they are taking the SSRI's, that's not exactly the best advice. They may be taking them for depression, OCD, social (or other)phobia etc. and just because they didn't help you doesn't mean that they are useless medications. Personally, I'd never consider taking SSRI's again for SAD, but if someone said they wanted to get off them I'd say go and see your doc to see about changing them for another class of drug if they're still needed (I now get tricyclics and am much happier), or tapering if they're not.

Without knowing why they're being taken, just telling them to get off SSRIs (even with tapering advice) might do more harm than good
 
nanobrain said:
combines well with 2C-B-FLY, methylone, 2C-T-21.

active dose of 4FA is 10mg - no empathogenics but beats 3 cups of coffee.

20mg 4FA / 5mg selegeline 1000mg l-phenylalanine 15mg propranolol = nice day gardening.

taken it up to 300mg, gets rough there. vision affected for over 20 hours.

may be habitforming.
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I definitely intend to test combinations of 4FA/4FMP with psychedelic phens. I have combined it with MDMA (the MDMA was ingested approx. 2.5 hrs into the 4F high) to wonderful effect. We just kinda landed in the MDMA space and wondered how it happened. Whereas the 4F come-up is so beautifully subtle and then suddenly you realise you're there and you're like "oh", the MDMA come-up is usually quite a different kettle of fish for me. But once on the 4F, it seems one enters total bliss quite unawares and then suddenly it's "oh" again and "oh my is this good").

I do believe it may be as habit-forming as methylone, actually. And since it would seem that it has toxicity issues starting at fairly low doses (like say twice the fully active dose all at once) I guess it works best as a pre-load for all sorts of other materials.

I have highlighted your gardening combo, nano, because I was surprised to read that you combined L-Phenylalinine with an MAOi (selegiline). I was also surprised that you combined it with a serotonin-releasing amphetamine... isn't that as contraindicated as using an MAOi with, say, a 2C or a tryptamine?

And, has any one combined 4FA with any psychedelic tryptamines yet?
 
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