Lysergamides Looking at A-LAD 100ug

[Shinji Ikari]

Staterra is more of a commitment than vyvanse. It takes weeks to start noticing any real benefit from it and for a lot of people it's less helpful than traditional stimulants for managing ADHD symptoms and more prone to causing side effects and fucking up their mood. Ymmv and for some people it works better than conventional stims but it's generally considered the third line treatment for a reason.

With vyvanse you can just skip it the day you plan to trip and you don't have to worry about them interacting. Mixing them isn't really an issue if you take vyvanse every day anyway as that's just your baseline.

 

[Elevana]

From what I read, the combo of Vyvanse, doxepin & sam-e creates a high baseline tone which can cause down regulation of 5-HT2A receptors, reduce psychedelic sensitivity, and muted visions this prompted me to explore a substitute for Vyvanse. Non-stimulant ADHD meds don't produce same stimulant override as Vyvanse does. and are the most psychedelic compatible options.

Then I took a look at doxepin, sleep med alternatives. Not much to work with here. Belsomra doesn't work for me and Rozerem is quick acting but is not effective for staying asleep.

It's a mess, considering the necessary adjustments that need to be made to have a full psychedelic experience, I wonder if it is worth it?

yeah but what if vyvanse can help people take a psychedelic like acid get the most important parts of the trip without all the crazy mind fucks that come with it. Like a smoother more clearheaded type experience

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Staterra is more of a commitment than vyvanse. It takes weeks to start noticing any real benefit from it and for a lot of people it's less helpful than traditional stimulants for managing ADHD symptoms and more prone to csuseing side effects and fucking up their mood. Ymmv and for some people it works better than conventional stims but it's generally considered the third line treatment for a reason.

With vyvanse you can just skip it the day you plan to trip and you don't have to worry about them interacting. Mixing them isn't really an issue if you take vyvanse every day anyway as that's just your baseline.

Thanks good to know

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Staterra is more of a commitment than vyvanse. It takes weeks to start noticing any real benefit from it and for a lot of people it's less helpful than traditional stimulants for managing ADHD symptoms and more prone to causing side effects and fucking up their mood. Ymmv and for some people it works better than conventional stims but it's generally considered the third line treatment for a reason.

With vyvanse you can just skip it the day you plan to trip and you don't have to worry about them interacting. Mixing them isn't really an issue if you take vyvanse every day anyway as that's just your baseline.

To add a note, I cancelled the Strattera order, thanks for your feedback

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Some of the early sheets were very uneven, and that's what I have. In fact the first batch was 100ug and subsequent ones were 150ug. All clearly marked on the label on the package
If I'm not mistaken, didn't you get the crystal? If you did you probably have a better handle on the true potency.

Nah I think I got some earlier 150ug blotter. I do do believe it was unevenly laid or somehow degraded because it was only consistent if I took three or more blotters at a time. That time I took five blotters was indeed very strong but I think I was at the end of the sheet and taking only two or three seemed a waste by then.

The duration was always shorter and the trip was always pretty similar to any other acid I had taken that I don’t really think fondly on AL-LAD.

Now I do have some ALD-52 crystal in my safe. I wonder if it’s any good after all these years. I haven’t touched it since I got it back in 2017. Always kept at room temp.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

150 mcg seemed a dose to me and i am light weight. Hard to prove but all the blotters i have taken seem dosed accurately. 200mcg for 1-cp-MIPLA ~ to 150 mcg Al-LAD equal to ~100 mcg ALD-52/ 1p-LSD. Not equal in effect or duration but akin in strength.

Taking less is essentially a waist imo. Leaving interactions with all the med s you describe out of the equation. And YMMV taking 150 is the minimum. And it is worth it unique substance. Enjoy

 

[pupnik]

sorry to drag this back to greek letters, but "μ" which is the greek 'm' looks a lot like english "u" see μu uμ looks almost the same hence they use the ug for μg rather than hunting for a greek 'm'

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

sorry to drag this back to greek letters, but "μ" which is the greek 'm' looks a lot like english "u" see μu uμ looks almost the same hence they use the ug for μg rather than hunting for a greek 'm'

It's the lower case Mu, which is the 12th letter of the Greek Alphabet.

 

[Didgital]

When you get the message, hang up the phone - Alan Watts

Alan Watts also drank himself to death so I'm not sure if he got the whole message.

I will probably be taking psychedelics til I die. Might even have to pull a Huxley.

 

[pupnik]

it's not a message, it's more of an unfolding, something expanding and letting go to make it good.

 

[Didgital]

it's not a message, it's more of an unfolding, something expanding and letting go to make it good.

agreed. I think watts had it wrong personally.

 

[Ki3ly]

In the same way, psychedelics often show us the door, we are the ones who have to do the hard work when the trip is over.

This means taking what you learn and applying it to your everyday, sober life. It does not mean tripping, over and over again, searching to recapture the same experience, an experience that you are meant to move beyond, not remain at in awe and in thrall to the beauty.

Incorporate and integrate what you’ve learned into your life and go about your business improving yourself and the world. It’s that simple. There’s nothing else to it.

That, of course, then there are variations and exceptions.

It's like watching a movie and saying "I totally understand movies now and so I will never watch another one again" Each trip and each chemical can be unique and teach you something new and different stages in life. Psychedelics are just tools that can be used for various reasons when needed.

There can also be an .... Everything in moderation!!

Aka, once you start tripping and realize there is more to life than what you see, you don't need the aid of psychedelics to ponder it any further.

 

[Ki3ly]

I was trying to just see that answering the phone from different forms and different ages.

And just trying to stay focused on my train of thoughts that quotes can sometimes age over time but may still have some good relevance.

Regarding the door that can be walked through. So the above post did get edited Lol. Keeping and staying healthy is important and relevant as well.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Thank you @Ki3ly words of wisdom

 

[pupnik]

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Aka, once you start tripping and realize there is more to life than what you see, you don't need the aid of psychedelics to ponder it any further.

that is a bit reductive, as if only one lesson merits learning, and if you have that one thing then you are enlightened.
but it really does not work that way, and, psychedelic need not fit into some mechanistic system of revelations for it to have personal value.

If I did not have it in my locked drawer, I would be hunting for it, since there are many occasions that I can be in an expanded state of mind, and it will not detract from anything else. Being able to alter one's resonant state of mind with ease when it seems suitable is a wonderful thing. so when that phone rings, I answer the call if not otherwise engaged.

 

[Ki3ly]

That, of course is what I had mentioned, then there are variations.


Expanded state of mind is good. I agree with it being real good.

For those who want to understand, or try to. That is All. And is quite a lot.

 

[Opana313]

From what I read, the combo of Vyvanse, doxepin & sam-e creates a high baseline tone which can cause down regulation of 5-HT2A receptors, reduce psychedelic sensitivity, and muted visions this prompted me to explore a substitute for Vyvanse. Non-stimulant ADHD meds don't produce same stimulant override as Vyvanse does. and are the most psychedelic compatible options.

Then I took a look at doxepin, sleep med alternatives. Not much to work with here. Belsomra doesn't work for me and Rozerem is quick acting but is not effective for staying asleep.

It's a mess, considering the necessary adjustments that need to be made to have a full psychedelic experience, I wonder if it is worth it?

Yes it is worth it. But it's your intent & that makes it worth anything at all.

It may show you a healthier way to just be happy in general i think.. I say go for it, but just skip that day and/or lower your dose of vyvance that week then see how things work out?

Have traz and benzo on deck along with edibles/bud unless you are sensitive to that.

 

[drewbocop]

I got no info about vvanse or strattera but lemme tell ya a story -- nah I will supress that urge

Can you un-suppress that urge? I'm interested... I took Strattera for 2 days when it was only a few years old and that was enough for me. Yuck.

@M!$TER-ED why are you replacing the Vyvanse with Strattera to prepare. Makes very little sense to me. Creating a unpredictable setting YMMV. But ime dex-Amphetamine taken therapeutic the day of, even during or day after has no real difference on the experience. You wont need it has no WD so take a break seems the way to go

Atomoxetine no exp its a Nor-Adrenaline reuptake inhibitor. Check ! Before heading in

This, completely. Taking an NRI that you are not inducted on as preparation makes less than zero sense. You could just... not take your Vyvanse...

Staterra is more of a commitment than vyvanse. It takes weeks to start noticing any real benefit from i

Or 48 hours to realize you aren't ever touching that shit again and hopping on Adderall IR instantly. (Which is also shit, mind you. Fuck levo-amp.)

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Can you un-suppress that urge? I'm interested... I took Strattera for 2 days when it was only a few years old and that was enough for me. Yuck.

It isnt much of a story I just remember when they came out and doctors thought they were abuse proof and handing out basically as many as people asked for.

At one point someone tried to give me 10 bottles of 90 for an 8th of pot (before pot was legal)-- I passed. (DAMN!) I dont really like stims but I recognize the trade value dictates I shoulda done it.

Streets were just flooded with them though; very common offer "Come by man ill throw ya some vvanse for your time" -- which was somehow more insulting than just asking as a friend at the time.

Mind you I have none of these friends now. I should not have been offended by the transactive nature

 

[Opana313]

In the same way, psychedelics often show us the door, we are the ones who have to do the hard work when the trip is over.

This is so true. When I had my first full blown heroic dose on mushrooms 6g+(ate possibly another gram or so on top for a friend that had his fill). I was presented with the most terrific, yet challenging shit I had ever grappled with..after that surrender(or being dragged through),
I had many reflections on not only my life but everyone else included, but more importantly it made me take a fresh look at my current point in life
(17 yr old in a toxic relationship, selling drugs and at the time doing a lot of cocaine and other drugs)-- I was able to understand in these moments that I was very unhappy, especially with the hard drugs, so in a way...the shrooms poisoned me into sobriety? No, but I did make some great life choices that probably saved me. All because that trip was so intense that it made me slam the brakes on all drugs in my life.

@M!$TER-ED do you ever watch that psyched substance dude on YT?(I'm sure he's been on here I imagine) he is ALL ABOUT safe tripping dude, whether its interviews at festivals or tripping in front of a camera for his podcast in the worst possible set and setting - a lot I do not agree with but he has his harm reduction down very well and this man was addicted to Vyvanse and ultimately quit so I think you should really check out his story and clips if you have not heard of him.

If I am playing with expanding my consciousness or looking deep into my own self or life I may dose relatively high in order to do so. But I like to dose a normal or average dose first before digging too deep (because maybe it's been awhile, plus you do not know how strong your acid, mush, or whatever x stash may be, so i think its a good rule of thumb..unless you want to dive straight into the deep end - nothing wrong with this especially if you are experienced).

Then after this integration I can gauge whether or not I want, or if I am even ready for a bigger heroic/dose. Usually after the goal is met, there is no need to keep tripping ritualisticlly - you may find yourself unsatisfied in the midst of this but that's only because you have been spoiling yourself and not integrating your experience and/or setting your INTENT or goal, and then doing the day to day work. Don’t get me wrong either about the variations I think daily tripping is probably what everybody needs or at least micro doses, but if you are trying to get your rocks off on moderate to high doses wayyy too often, then yeah watch it all become not too cool...that is more of a rolling(ecstacy-mdma) type of behavior, which we all know can be hella bad news but just about anything is when it becomes habitual.

{EDIT} Sorry I always derail shit. Yeah ug & microgram always messed me up to..I first heard it spoke of in measurements from an audio recording of Huxley talking about mescaline vs lsd and how lsd is so potent because it is measured in "Gamma"..anyway back 2 derail
Not sure why but idk I am at this point in my life - turning 380 yrs old vamp next month, where I trip my face off with my wifey for fun. But then I decide to dig to deep into my own psyche or figure out the mystery of us and the universe which is usually always done solo, but also in the dark to meditate I guess but really to SEE & feel it all and is way WAYYY more profound when I approach psychedelics in this manner!! It's so rewarding! It's so rewarding its as if I