Cocaine Do you think cocaine naysayers (people who say they don't like it or it's very overrated) just haven't tried really good cocaine enough times?

[danosaurous22]

Obviously that sounds like you have to get addicted to enjoy it. But I do think it's a little more complicated than that. I know a lot of people who have never sought it out, just used it in party settings and didn't really feel a need to explore it further or get deeper into it. Sometimes I think that that perspective just comes from people not really ever realizing how good strong cocaine can feel. Some of it is rather speedy, and the negative side effects like getting wired or heartburn or short lived highs and an uncomfortable experience snorting it can easily overwhelm the somewhat subtle come up that makes it so amazing to me. When the side effects aren't there, you are very aware of how subtly your mood is changing, then realizing that you have just steadily been climbing to a very pleasant and relaxed high that makes you view the world in a totally different light. Really good coke feels how I've always imagined opiates feeling, a warm and euphoric sensation all over your body with a sense of contentment and a renewed interest in the world around you that almost feels reminiscent of when you were a child or really exploring the world for the first time in your best years. Of course even good cocaine will totally fry you and make you paranoid if you give into the compulsion to re dose until nothing, not even coke makes you feel good and you have to deal with extreme paranoia and general weirdness and alienation from reality but you are so far out that you just can't stop dosing because the alternative is a horrific crash. The slow climb to it overtaking you and the rapidness with which it wears off is crucial to what makes it such a powerful drug IMO, and bad coke won't really feel that way. It would just be a very short rush and very distracting and unpleasant side effects which push you into doing way more than you should because the side effects are just so unpleasant, and that type of experience always to me ends with a feeling of "I never want to feel this way again". But a binge on good cocaine ends with a lot of reflection and a feeling of having gone into space and returned to earth, as though I went on an indescribable adventure that is worth the trouble.

I know some people have had great coke and still don't like it, but I truly believe that the way it shifts between incredibly subtle and incredibly overpowering several times in the first few doses is something very unique and special about the drug that gives it an edge over almost any other drug. It's not particularly functional like speed can be, it's not dehabiliating like psychedelics and MDMA, it's basically a very pleasant escape from reality that drops you back where you were almost immediately with not much memory of what you were so pleased with. So many people enjoy coke for the situations they're in when they use it, a party atmosphere gets elevated by a party drug. But my fascination with it began when I started to see the drug's capability to stand on its own completely, you can just sit and enjoy the rush and it never gets old, it always totally overwhelms me and honestly socialization gets a bit difficult when I get a really good high from it. I just want to kind of marvel at the feeling and the short duration makes it all the more fascinating to experience. Not really like other stimulants in that aspect and IMO it's much better than them because of that. I mostly just make this post because for a while my guy was getting me very brittle coke that got me euphoric but also got me very wired and it was easy to overdo it and end up with a bug eyed speed high if you did a bit too much, at which point it really wasn't that enjoyable but was still very addictive and powerful. The other day the bag I finished was very soft, the kind that sticks to whatever you chop it up with and goes up your nose with zero resistance and just dissolves very readily in water, a little tricky to work with and very shiny and soft. It isolated that slow climb and quick, overwhelming peak that I had forgotten the drug could offer, and it is a very special thing if you can just sit back and enjoy it. The craving is a bitch either way though, it's tough to figure out what to do with yourself once you've experienced that first rush of your day and you'll end up getting bug eyed anyway chasing that feeling if you can't control yourself. But I can't for the life of me see why somebody who has done a lot of drugs wouldn't see that experience as profound and a bit too good for its own good. It's really a stoney feeling at its best, like you can barely think straight because you feel so good. I can't see why anybody would find that overrated or over expensive or not for them, unless they weren't really in a position to notice it or get stuff that's good enough to have that effect. Talking Heads album Speaking in Tongues articulates a lot of this too, they must have been deep into some good coke. "Takes over slowly, but doesn't last very long" "Colored lights and shiny presents" etc.

 

[crazyotter87]

I'll give you my two cents. It seems like you either love cocaine or find it underwhelming, and I fall into the latter category. The only time I tried it, I had access to high-quality darknet yayo, and it was still incredibly lackluster. Pop culture sets unrealistic expectations for the drug. My experience was either feeling like I was having a heart attack or feeling barely anything.

I suppose everyone's biochemistry is different, and I'm one of the people it simply doesn't work for. It was too moreish for its own good. I might get a little euphoria at the start, but if I kept going, all I was left with was a clogged nose, paranoia, anxiety, and regret in the morning. I'd call it "micro-addicting": if I took a line or two and stopped, I was fine, but anything past five lines and I'd be going all night chasing something I couldn't quite identify.

Ultimately, it's too short-lasting and doesn't deliver. I'll also note that I never tried it with alcohol; I usually used it when I was already fucked on benzos. There was one memorable occasion where I did six hours of statistics homework on it, which was admittedly pretty useful. Still, there are better short-lasting stimulants out there. To me, 4-MMC felt like a hybrid of MDMA and cocaine, and NEP was much closer to what I had imagined cocaine would feel like based on its reputation. Cocaine may have its place, but I never found mine with it, and I'm not particularly motivated to keep looking.

 

[foodcrisis]

i got good coke one time. i bought a gram from a coke head my friend knew to give him a few lines... i snorted any where between a half gram to a gram in an hour and a half to 2 hours. i get the feeling the bag might've been a little over and this kid was just being nice trying to show me a good time or maybe he wanted to get me addicted or some shit or he could've just been dealing it pretending to pick up a little bit.. i really don't know. i felt like he gave me a pretty fair deal. i gave him forty or fifty bucks to get the gram for me, and he brought it back and it definitely got me high. i feel like he could've given me less for a first time experience.

anyways, i was very stimulated while snorting the coke. i put a little on my gums and that was numbing and enjoyable. while snorting the coke and a while afterward, i swear my face was numb and my back felt really good. i was just breathing really well. my heart was beating pretty hard. idk. i assume this was decent coke. from taking like 2 hours to sniff a half gram to a gram of whatever it was, my heart was beating pretty fast for like 4 hours and i felt pretty good for like 5 hours after starting the snorting. after that i really didn't feel bad. i just smoked some pot and chilled out and went to bed. EDIT: i dunno if my coke experience sounds rather long staying high that long after taking the lines, but with adderall, i tend to stay higher than the average person will. i get into really intense breathing patterns.

right after snorting the coke, i kicked my friends out and smoked some pot by myself and did some abstract painting, which was a lot of fun. i definitely felt really good and painting felt super smooth.

i haven't done coke many other times. i remember being at a party with some skater kids that had really bogus coke or i wasn't snorting big enough lines. i didn't have any pot. i didn't like it at all. another time my friend offered me a line when i was on a low dose of 2ci or 2cb i forget, but it was at the start of the trip and didn't get me high for very long and i felt kind of shitty for the rest of the night.


so from my experience with coke that must've been at least decent, i'm gonna say people don't get good shit., or they just find it pricey. i personally would do coke every month or so, maybe even less if i felt like the crash was bothering me being sober, but if i were legal i'd do it every now and then. i'm sure i wouldn't get addicted.. idk. i guess it's pretty toxic, but it doesn't seem like that bad of a drug. i don't think it really even threw me off much after getting a good nights rest. i'm sure if i did it all the time, i'd get to be under the weather. but seems like the type of thing that should be legal and regulated, so people can have a good time with it... i feel like acid costing a few bucks for a hit, or a decent roll is like 15 bucks compared to the price of a gram of coke, you can have a good night for cheaper on some other drugs. i personally feel like coke is a better high than mdma though and acid is just a crazy amazing drug for being so cheap. lol. if i have some extra money, i'd love some coke.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

For me it's a price/duration issue. Like for the same price you can get enough coke to last 20-40 mins or enough amphetamine to last 2 days.
I really like it but the crazy price and really short duration make it just not worth it.

 

[KurtAurelius]

Cocaine inherently is an inferior drug to me from a pharmacological perspective and others too.

Pitiful half life
Its profile (sodium channel blocker that makes it cardiotoxic and kills tissues via vasoconstriction etc..)

The fact is cocaine is stepped on so badly with disgusting cuts, not to mention its very creation involved in harmful farming practices that are not sustainable.

There’s no “getting” cocaine.

It’s enjoyable for a reason but it’s a silly drug compared to Pharma Methylphenidate or Amphetamine for a lot of reasons imo.

The physical damage caused by Cocaine is staggering and is not charming.

To me it’s incredibly sad because of the people who could use other agents with near to no physical damage.

I’m being sardonic but I generally think it’s a barbaric antique.

The only thing that may stand out, is its serotonin affinity providing a unique element, but that is not justifiable to the above.

Methylphenidate and Amphetamine are far superior stimulants.

For more recreational purposes MDMA, MDA, and similar (including Mephedrone) are again superior if used properly.

 

[Chaurus]

Done some good cocaine, and smoked some base too. Also coca leaves.

It's just that -in comparison- cocaine usually isn't worth the money. It lasts too short. Then of course it's usually stepped on multiple times.

 

[KetWise]

To me, I think it depends where you located and what are your connects. Yet even if i was getting 5 dollars grams of maximum purity, well it would be still not worth it. Maybe because I'd need something to come down and more than usually. More opiates and benzos for example.

It depends also what do you want, it's clearly not great to be functional, can't think straight passed a certain point, it ruins parties.. But the rush/flash (base or IV) is quite strong and unique, not much equal a huge bell ringer right... It's orgasmic, but a very lonely, solitary and clearly dangerous experience.

It's a double edged sword too, doing cocaine by itself is impossible, (for me again) so it would ramp up my tolerance to downers just to get a very short lived rush. Users drink a lot more alcohol, or shoot more smack to get down. it leads to compulsive behaviors and all kind of complications outside the substance it self by having to add more drugs to have a "good" experience

But again when it's 5 AM and you smoked one or two g of freebase, the comedown you got to fight each time makes the whole thing not worth it. Cravings are so hardcore and long lasting. You only think about coke and more coke, not much else.

On top of that, it is a dirty and violent business, a lot of people die so you can get that powder, cursing any involvement with that substance... the cost is much more than money.

To answer I think everybody is different, but anyway there is much more interesting drugs than coke. It tends to be overrated but being hooked on it is really tough. People who are not liking coke or didn't find the "good" one are kinda lucky because it's a big one out of the way!

 

[streaM Freak]

I think it's pretty complex.

A lot of drug abuse in my opinion has to do with situational things as well as filling a need, which are very different between people.

For example, I was more likely to abuse the drug when going through tough times. When I was more stable I could handle really good product with little urge to redose. When I fell on hard times, id compulsively use almost anything, and pay my last dime on it.

 

[ish_1_]

Obviously that sounds like you have to get addicted to enjoy it. But I do think it's a little more complicated than that. I know a lot of people who have never sought it out, just used it in party settings and didn't really feel a need to explore it further or get deeper into it. Sometimes I think that that perspective just comes from people not really ever realizing how good strong cocaine can feel. Some of it is rather speedy, and the negative side effects like getting wired or heartburn or short lived highs and an uncomfortable experience snorting it can easily overwhelm the somewhat subtle come up that makes it so amazing to me. When the side effects aren't there, you are very aware of how subtly your mood is changing, then realizing that you have just steadily been climbing to a very pleasant and relaxed high that makes you view the world in a totally different light. Really good coke feels how I've always imagined opiates feeling, a warm and euphoric sensation all over your body with a sense of contentment and a renewed interest in the world around you that almost feels reminiscent of when you were a child or really exploring the world for the first time in your best years. Of course even good cocaine will totally fry you and make you paranoid if you give into the compulsion to re dose until nothing, not even coke makes you feel good and you have to deal with extreme paranoia and general weirdness and alienation from reality but you are so far out that you just can't stop dosing because the alternative is a horrific crash. The slow climb to it overtaking you and the rapidness with which it wears off is crucial to what makes it such a powerful drug IMO, and bad coke won't really feel that way. It would just be a very short rush and very distracting and unpleasant side effects which push you into doing way more than you should because the side effects are just so unpleasant, and that type of experience always to me ends with a feeling of "I never want to feel this way again". But a binge on good cocaine ends with a lot of reflection and a feeling of having gone into space and returned to earth, as though I went on an indescribable adventure that is worth the trouble.

I know some people have had great coke and still don't like it, but I truly believe that the way it shifts between incredibly subtle and incredibly overpowering several times in the first few doses is something very unique and special about the drug that gives it an edge over almost any other drug. It's not particularly functional like speed can be, it's not dehabiliating like psychedelics and MDMA, it's basically a very pleasant escape from reality that drops you back where you were almost immediately with not much memory of what you were so pleased with. So many people enjoy coke for the situations they're in when they use it, a party atmosphere gets elevated by a party drug. But my fascination with it began when I started to see the drug's capability to stand on its own completely, you can just sit and enjoy the rush and it never gets old, it always totally overwhelms me and honestly socialization gets a bit difficult when I get a really good high from it. I just want to kind of marvel at the feeling and the short duration makes it all the more fascinating to experience. Not really like other stimulants in that aspect and IMO it's much better than them because of that. I mostly just make this post because for a while my guy was getting me very brittle coke that got me euphoric but also got me very wired and it was easy to overdo it and end up with a bug eyed speed high if you did a bit too much, at which point it really wasn't that enjoyable but was still very addictive and powerful. The other day the bag I finished was very soft, the kind that sticks to whatever you chop it up with and goes up your nose with zero resistance and just dissolves very readily in water, a little tricky to work with and very shiny and soft. It isolated that slow climb and quick, overwhelming peak that I had forgotten the drug could offer, and it is a very special thing if you can just sit back and enjoy it. The craving is a bitch either way though, it's tough to figure out what to do with yourself once you've experienced that first rush of your day and you'll end up getting bug eyed anyway chasing that feeling if you can't control yourself. But I can't for the life of me see why somebody who has done a lot of drugs wouldn't see that experience as profound and a bit too good for its own good. It's really a stoney feeling at its best, like you can barely think straight because you feel so good. I can't see why anybody would find that overrated or over expensive or not for them, unless they weren't really in a position to notice it or get stuff that's good enough to have that effect. Talking Heads album Speaking in Tongues articulates a lot of this too, they must have been deep into some good coke. "Takes over slowly, but doesn't last very long" "Colored lights and shiny presents" etc.

They haven’t had anything close to quality stufff.

 

[ish_1_]

Cocaine inherently is an inferior drug to me from a pharmacological perspective and others too.

Pitiful half life
Its profile (sodium channel blocker that makes it cardiotoxic and kills tissues via vasoconstriction etc..)

The fact is cocaine is stepped on so badly with disgusting cuts, not to mention its very creation involved in harmful farming practices that are not sustainable.

There’s no “getting” cocaine.

It’s enjoyable for a reason but it’s a silly drug compared to Pharma Methylphenidate or Amphetamine for a lot of reasons imo.

The physical damage caused by Cocaine is staggering and is not charming.

To me it’s incredibly sad because of the people who could use other agents with near to no physical damage.

I’m being sardonic but I generally think it’s a barbaric antique.

The only thing that may stand out, is its serotonin affinity providing a unique element, but that is not justifiable to the above.

Methylphenidate and Amphetamine are far superior stimulants.

For more recreational purposes MDMA, MDA, and similar (including Mephedrone) are again superior if used properly.

Solid points here and I absolutely agree w the amp and rit comparison as they are far superior by leaps and bounds. Unfortunately I had to stop All my adhd meds about a year ago after 17 years of daily use due to shit at the time out of my control and my life spiraled and has been a pain in my ass to say the least. I stumbled onto solid High quality cocaine about 7 months ago or so and I need to get back on my adhd meds is what I know. The cost and wear and tear in my body is much higher w cocaine. Yes cocaine is euphoric producing substance. Nothing compares to my adhd meds period.

 

[ish_1_]

Cocaine inherently is an inferior drug to me from a pharmacological perspective and others too.

Pitiful half life
Its profile (sodium channel blocker that makes it cardiotoxic and kills tissues via vasoconstriction etc..)

The fact is cocaine is stepped on so badly with disgusting cuts, not to mention its very creation involved in harmful farming practices that are not sustainable.

There’s no “getting” cocaine.

It’s enjoyable for a reason but it’s a silly drug compared to Pharma Methylphenidate or Amphetamine for a lot of reasons imo.

The physical damage caused by Cocaine is staggering and is not charming.

To me it’s incredibly sad because of the people who could use other agents with near to no physical damage.

I’m being sardonic but I generally think it’s a barbaric antique.

The only thing that may stand out, is its serotonin affinity providing a unique element, but that is not justifiable to the above.

Methylphenidate and Amphetamine are far superior stimulants.

For more recreational purposes MDMA, MDA, and similar (including Mephedrone) are again superior if used properly.

Thumbs up here

 

[Jnowhere]

Some people just don't like stimulants, is that to hard to understand?

 

[Cheradenine]

I have been offered coke a handful of times, and declined the offer every time. On the other hand, pretty much every time I have been offered amphetamine I have accepted the offer. There are at least two reasons why I don't feel like investigating cocaine any further. First, I have a somewhat volatile and unpredictable response on methylphenidate. Cocaine works in similar ways, and the idea of a much stronger version of methylphenidate is not something that I'm very eager to experience. Second, there is the question, what can the drug do for me? While I have found that amphetamines actually can do quite a bit for me, the shorter duration and presumedly more intense euphoria of cocaine makes it not really useful.

 

[latenighter]

I'll give you my two cents. It seems like you either love cocaine or find it underwhelming, and I fall into the latter category. The only time I tried it, I had access to high-quality darknet yayo, and it was still incredibly lackluster. Pop culture sets unrealistic expectations for the drug. My experience was either feeling like I was having a heart attack or feeling barely anything.

I suppose everyone's biochemistry is different, and I'm one of the people it simply doesn't work for. It was too moreish for its own good. I might get a little euphoria at the start, but if I kept going, all I was left with was a clogged nose, paranoia, anxiety, and regret in the morning. I'd call it "micro-addicting": if I took a line or two and stopped, I was fine, but anything past five lines and I'd be going all night chasing something I couldn't quite identify.

Ultimately, it's too short-lasting and doesn't deliver. I'll also note that I never tried it with alcohol; I usually used it when I was already fucked on benzos. There was one memorable occasion where I did six hours of statistics homework on it, which was admittedly pretty useful. Still, there are better short-lasting stimulants out there. To me, 4-MMC felt like a hybrid of MDMA and cocaine, and NEP was much closer to what I had imagined cocaine would feel like based on its reputation. Cocaine may have its place, but I never found mine with it, and I'm not particularly motivated to keep looking.

Ha this post is spot on. In my mind coke is awesome, it's going to be so fun. And the first line or 3 are great.

But then it's just a constant chasing of something that never comes. With coke (and especially crack) ime the fun is in the actual doing of the drug not the actual high. These two can't be separated.

I once need to clean my house and had a pile of coke, never got to the cleaning because every time I got high it was quickly time to go again.

 

[Allylbenzene]

I’m being sardonic but I generally think it’s a barbaric antique.

Imo the only value for it is in it's original form alongside the other coca leaf alkaloids. It's comparable to using pure THC verses some cannabis flowers. The flower delivers the full range of psychoactive substances (terpenoids, cannabinoids, etc) which complement THC .

 

[Allylbenzene]

Some people just don't like stimulants, is that to hard to understand?

Your statement fails to account for the fact that stimulants aren't all the same meaning they don't all operate in the same way. Eg Caffeine operates entirely differently to all other stimulants. With 2 minor changes to caffeines molecular structure gives theacrine which is both stimulating and relaxing.

Your statement is also simplistic in the sense that it overlooks things that have stimulating qualities but aren't explicitly considered to be stimulants.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

I loved cocaine. I abused it for 13 years. I also abused alcohol and smoked cigarettes. On March 16 2026 I suffered an aortic dissection and had an 8.5 cm aneurysm. Be careful out there folks. Im lucky to still be alive.

 

[Leprechaun]

I'll give you my two cents. It seems like you either love cocaine or find it underwhelming, and I fall into the latter category. The only time I tried it, I had access to high-quality darknet yayo, and it was still incredibly lackluster. Pop culture sets unrealistic expectations for the drug. My experience was either feeling like I was having a heart attack or feeling barely anything.

I suppose everyone's biochemistry is different, and I'm one of the people it simply doesn't work for. It was too moreish for its own good. I might get a little euphoria at the start, but if I kept going, all I was left with was a clogged nose, paranoia, anxiety, and regret in the morning. I'd call it "micro-addicting": if I took a line or two and stopped, I was fine, but anything past five lines and I'd be going all night chasing something I couldn't quite identify.

Ultimately, it's too short-lasting and doesn't deliver. I'll also note that I never tried it with alcohol; I usually used it when I was already fucked on benzos. There was one memorable occasion where I did six hours of statistics homework on it, which was admittedly pretty useful. Still, there are better short-lasting stimulants out there. To me, 4-MMC felt like a hybrid of MDMA and cocaine, and NEP was much closer to what I had imagined cocaine would feel like based on its reputation. Cocaine may have its place, but I never found mine with it, and I'm not particularly motivated to keep looking.

This is my thinking also… Too short acting and doesn’t provide any benefit.

If you want any utility from it, oral dose of 50mg with some alkaline substance can provide a functional marching powder… but why, when you have Dexedrine…

 

[Allylbenzene]

If you want any utility from it, oral dose of 50mg with some alkaline substance can provide a functional marching powder

Imo a sensible "balanced approach" would be to combine cocaine with specific protective substances which address it's harmful effect(s). An alpha-2 adrenergic agonist would do the job fairly well (eg agmatine (OTC), clonidine, guanfacine) since this would mitigate some of it's cardiotoxic effects and reduce tolerance build-up. Alternatively (2nd best options) a GABAergic or adenosine agonist.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Me getting into crack literally ruined my taste for cocaine permanently you couldn't pay me to go back to that drug I prefer methamphetamine