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Stimulants D-Meth instead D-Amph for ADHD?

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I get Attentin (pharma d amph) for 2,2€ per 5mg pill. I take 15mg 5x a week so monthly costs are around 130€.

I can get D-Meth powder for 70€/g, so around 20€ monthly costs.

Some people claim that d meth is neurotoxic even on therapeutical dosages (that d-methylamphetamine damages parts and pieces in the dopamine and serotonin pathways)

But if that were true i dont think it would be fda approved. Should I switch to d meth because it costs a lot less?
 
Id ask myself, what do I need this for.

For ADHD, I can imagine being in school, or working a job needing strong focus, or being easily distracted and needing to focus for more general things, too. For these yeah I could see how some would desire a stimulant. I surely love my coffee.

Now when it comes to meth, honestly I think that's just a bad decision. And I used to love meth, so that's a lot coming from my thumbs.

That's like using a shotgun to kill a mouse. I'm sure it's been done, and it may take care of an issue, but you'll end up with more issues than you started with.
 
Id ask myself, what do I need this for.

For ADHD, I can imagine being in school, or working a job needing strong focus, or being easily distracted and needing to focus for more general things, too. For these yeah I could see how some would desire a stimulant. I surely love my coffee.

Now when it comes to meth, honestly I think that's just a bad decision. And I used to love meth, so that's a lot coming from my thumbs.

That's like using a shotgun to kill a mouse. I'm sure it's been done, and it may take care of an issue, but you'll end up with more issues than you started with.
Theres Desoxyn (FDA approved even for kids) which is basically d-meth. Its used as a last resort med for adhd if everything else didnt work.
 
Theres Desoxyn (FDA approved even for kids) which is basically d-meth. Its used as a last resort med for adhd if everything else didnt work.

It's a pretty extreme measure to take in my opinion.

I even question societies reliance on amphetamines.

Do we really need to be hopped up, and coked out, just to get a job done? Does everything require lazer focus and ruthless competition?
 
It's a pretty extreme measure to take in my opinion.

I even question societies reliance on amphetamines.

Do we really need to be hopped up, and coked out, just to get a job done? Does everything require lazer focus and ruthless competition?

This is a excellent point, I’ve spent the last two days without 92mg prescribed methylphenidate (essentially cleaner cocaine) and no matter how savage
my adhd is, I can take care of my needs and those of my family.

Do I need to be that perfect consistently? Is it really a problem or because I can’t sit in a chair for 8 hours doing a job I hate I am the person who has something wrong with them?
 
Few thoughts:

Can you trust yourself to self medicate with meth and not make recreational exceptions? Slippery slope is meth.

Can you be sure of the purity of the meth and that your supply will consistently be of the same purity? My understanding is that most street meth is racemic and purity can vary significantly from batch to batch.

Is d-amp currently effectively managing your ADHD? If so I don't think it's worth trying to fix what isn't broken for the sake of saving a few bucks a month.
 
Few thoughts:

Can you trust yourself to self medicate with meth and not make recreational exceptions? Slippery slope is meth.

Can you be sure of the purity of the meth and that your supply will consistently be of the same purity? My understanding is that most street meth is racemic and purity can vary significantly from batch to batch.

Is d-amp currently effectively managing your ADHD? If so I don't think it's worth trying to fix what isn't broken for the sake of saving a few bucks a month.
Yeah, good points.

Tbh, my opinion would be taking meth is never a positive life choice.

If you're stable on the meds you have and it's all working for you then the sensible thing would be to stick with that.

An extra 110euro a month more to be stable is probably worth it.
 
You´re not the first person or the last to posit this question in the forums. Methamphetamine is cheaper and more plentiful than prescription stimulants. However, I´m of the opinion that it´s just not suitable for chronic, stable usage. I´ll try to explain.

Stimulants are on a spectrum of sorts in my head. On one end, you have Caffeine, on the other, Methamphetamine or something similar.

Caffeine no doubt has effects on our cognition. You could even say that a high dose of Caffeine can cause Euphoria if you are not tolerant to its effects. However, the stimulation of the mind comes with extensive peripheral stimulation. In short, Caffeine is self-limiting in how ¨high¨ a person can get on it. You can only handle so much caffeine before you´r contending with palpitations, tachycardia and anxiety.

Then you have Amphetamine. We are moving up the spectrum. You can get much higher on Amphetamine, but even still, higher dosages are going to limit the amount of Central Nervous Stimulation the user can tolerate. In simple terms, it is analogous to my Caffeine reference.

We keep moving up the spectrum and DextroMethamphetamine is pretty much at the top. You get much more of the Central Nervous Stimulation and less of the peripheral effects produced by less potent stimulants. This is why you see Meth users acting in a very characteristic way, dancing, strutting, jumpy and with stereolochomotion that makes them impossible to miss. This is a result of them just being overloaded with the flood of neurotransmitters to the point that they eventually break from reality and become fully psychotic.

Now, you can see why D-Methamphetamine is a great choice for getting as fucked up as you can possibly get. However, if you´re looking for something functional, that will give you the stimulation you need without constant fear of going over the edge of Meth and losing your shit, weaker stimulants just make more sense.

I know exactly zero people who decided to use Meth to treat their ADHD who then were able to pass their doctorate and become legendary in their field. I know dozens of people who have tried though. If you don´t feel like reading all of this, just know that Methamphetamine does not typically improve anyone´s life. It can make life more fun and exciting for a short while, but there is not an infinite supply of Dopamine. You hit a wall with tolerance and then flip flop between psychosis, anxiety and the itch of wanting to be high that you now, frustratingly cannot scratch.
 
The issue is always ease of upping dose. It's a psychological issue. On paper it all looks perfect. In reality, being prescribed a set dosage in exact little pills that is restricted in refills that you can't breach without fucking up your medicated state.. Removing all that and replacing it with a bag of shiny crystals that can be replenished any moment, a cut drinking straw and a pair of scales? That is the issue. Most people simply cannot handle such a level of accessible indulgence. I don't know if anyone can, really. Just a matter of time.
 
The seller claims 99.9% purity with a photo of lab testing. If I were to try it, I would strictly stick to low, therapeutic dosages and only take it orally.
Right now, d-amphetamine works well for me. But it seems reasonable to consider switching to something significantly cheaper if it does the same job.

In my country, Elvanse is available so I could get it for free with an ADHD diagnosis. I don’t really want Elvanse as it still leads to prolonged amphetamine exposure throughout the day, including times when dopamine signaling isn’t really needed (e.g. late evening or even when your asleep). That means more dopamine adaptation and tolerance over time. Attentin is approved only to children under 18, so getting it as an adult would require an off-label prescription, which I’m not sure I could get.

I understand the concern about abuse risk, but I honestly don’t think I would “slip” and start using it recreationally. If I wanted to get really high, I could already do that with Attentin.

If the abuse risk really is higher, even at therapeutic doses, then it wouldn’t be worth it to me. Ruining my life over saving 110 € obviously makes no sense, and in that case I’d stick with Attentin.

I’ve read a lot of mixed opinions about Desoxyn (methamphetamine). Some people claim it works better than any other ADHD medication and argue that it isn’t prescribed mainly because of stigma around meth. Others say it’s neurotoxic, while some claim that at low, therapeutic doses it’s pharmacologically very similar to Adderall or d-amphetamine.


If from a pharamalogical point d-amphetamine is simply the better and safer drug, then I would stay with it. But if methamphetamine and d-amphetamine are essentially the same in effectiveness and side effect wise at proper ADHD dosages, then I don’t see a strong reason not to at least consider trying it.
 
The seller is full of shit and there are so many good reasons to not try meth.

Elvanse is imo the most effective least abusable (it's still abusable) and least prone to side effects drug currently available for managing ADHD, but then I haven't tried meth, nor will I ever as I'm exactly the sort of person it would get it's hooks into and end up ruining, as I suspect are you.

I infer that you don't currently have an ADHD diagnosis? That's worth pursuing if you think you qualify for one not only for the steady supply of meds but for the accompanying clinical guidance, which admittedly can be hit and miss depending on luck and location, but has been enormously helpful for me particularly when I was remedicated in my late 20s and landed on a prescriber who also had ADHD and just got it.

I digress; don't do meth.
 
I take d-meth (well, as close to that as I can find) orally, for similar reasons, also because of the unnecessary headaches and hoops one has to jump through in the U.S. just to even get a script and find pharmacies with it in stock.

I just measure out a certain amount of milligrams and dissolve it in water, at a good ratio so I can accurately dose it. Gotta say it is working good and I really do not think that meth is much more neurotoxic. When I search for scientific studies, most of the ones that say meth does this that and 20 other bad things are funded by some anti drug stuff. Then, all the studies coming out about ADHD meds, d-amp, are now claiming you live longer, do 20 other great things etc...

The differences are minor, but honestly I feel d-amp has slightly better focus, but also worse comedown and up/down effect... more personality change compared to d-meth.

Most people have been taking in weird non scientific anti drug propaganda and lots of it comes from the whole crazy 'rehab industry' or just weird things that get repeated at NA meetings or, peoples crazy life experiences using it recreationally, and dosing recklessly, smoking/IVing it. etc. Oral is the only way to go and also low doses.

Also strangely - using oral meth as my ADHD med daily, seems to have way less tolerance. It keeps on working, day after day, and the doses aren't going higher.. I can't even get any useable doses of d-amph anymore, they last such a short time I would have to get a script for like 90mg a day for it to be useable and then the physical side effects would be worse.

--- Prucalopride 2mg 'fixes' meth constipation really well

I really wish I could know the purity of the stuff I'm getting off the dark web though. I am planning to go to a doc to just get some 10mg dex tablets, so i can at least switch back and forth.. I do worry that I might be doing some kind of damage I don't know about. I just am not sure what studies to even believe because of good reasons to not trust certain things or coming from certain sources. Maybe I can eventually try real desoxyn tablets just to see if it seems any different.
 
Theres Desoxyn (FDA approved even for kids) which is basically d-meth. Its used as a last resort med for adhd if everything else didnt work.
It’s essentially NEVER used for ADD. Like ever. It’s only used for narcolepsy and severe obesity.

And meth is a horrendous idea for ADD anyway. Just find some amphetamine powder. It’s available in extremely high quality these days, even if it IS racemic. I used to think d-amp was the end all, be all. But after switching to Dexedrine and Vyvanse exclusively, there truly is an element lacking.

Later in life, I also got access to extremely high purity D-meth which I planned to use “medicinally”. It’s just not a good idea. It’s TOO much. You won’t even come close to sticking to 5-10mg a day.

Seriously just do some digging, and you’ll save your health and money by opting for some regular old amphetamine tartrate. A small synth of D-amp just sold out recently, so that may return as well.
 
I think it might be helpful if I share a little bit about my first-hand experiences with the substances mentioned in this thread. As most of you know, Heroin/Morphine represented 90% of my hard drug usage. I also would drink a fair bit back in the day. That doesn't mean I haven''t taken every other kind of drug out there though.

I was considered a very intelligent student, but I also had zero aptitude for the logistics involved with homework, punctuality etc. When teachers were putting work in front of me, it was easy. When I had to manage time and goals myself, I completely hit a wall. This is what led to my first foray with prescription stimulants. The issue was, at this time, I was also beginning to experiment with hard drugs like Oxycodone/Heroin etc. Amphetamines were just another drug to abuse for me. I thus never received consistent benefit with the medication.

I would go on to abuse Amphetamines recreationally, intermittently throughout my adult life. There were a lot of Amphetamines available in Cambodia, either Ya-Ba or shards of Meth. In Iraq you could get a script for Methylphenidate pretty easily, but you could also buy Captagon (fenethylline) just as easily. I would use these mostly to wake myself up if I was too sedated from Opioids. I had never really attempted to use Amphetamines in any manner that could be considered "responsible". Likewise, I assumed that I was probably incapable of using them in such a way.

After I had been off Heroin for a few years, I somehow came to the conclusion that I should try a stimulant prescription again. This was a pretty risky proposition and in retrospect, I don't know what had gotten into me thinking this would be okay. I made a decision that I would trust my medication with another person to see how I would do with it. This is a practice I cannot recommend enough for folks struggling with medication compliance.

I was pretty blown away when I took over the prescription after 3 months. I was actually able to take it as prescribed. I had seen how beneficial it was for me to have the medication and my matured mind did not want to sacrifice these benefits just to get really high. In short, the positive effects on my professional/personal life was getting me higher than the drugs would, if that makes sense.

I have used Methamphetamine. See, Methamphetamine didn't really exist in New England outside of the insular community of Gay men who used it. It came around for the first time maybe 10 years ago. My point is, it was not a feature of the drugs landscape in my childhood -> age 24-45.

You could say Methamphetamine is, apples to apples, just a more potent Amphetamine. If one is to adjust the dosage accordingly, they should be essentially interchangeable. In my experience, that is overly simplistic. See, I have used Methamphetamine on whim for the same reasons I might buy a couple of Adderall tablets; I needed to work an overnight shift or something like that. Well, I did this a couple of times and found I could never stop before I went over a line I didn't want to go over.

I would go into these experiences absolutely only wanting to be "more awake" for a reasonable amount of time, say, for the duration of my shift. Instead, I would end up staying awake for 3 days. I would end up using a bit too much to be able to go to sleep, right, then l would have no choice but to use more Methamphetamine to stay awake for that shift and by day 3, I'd feel like a hollowed out husk/robot. I've always heard stories of folks staying up for a week, two weeks... three weeks? Fuck, I can't even comprehend how my body would feel. as 3 days awake seemed like it was totally devastating.

I eventually came to terms with the fact that I could not use Methamphetamine in a reasonable way. It was either I would end up on a binge or I wouldn't be doing it at all. This is the relationship I have with the majority of psychoactive substances to this day. I can take Methadone, Gabapentin/Pregabalin, Cannabis and my prescription Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse), but the majority of substances derail me from being functional.

So I was surprised when I found I was able to control my usage with the Lisdexamfetamine. When I started taking it, I was very apprehensive and cautious. For whatever reason, I've never just taken my whole prescription in a few days. I've never completely lost control. I'm not sure if this is maturity or if it's the result of harmonious biochemistry; I see the benefits I can gain from the medication and I would rather have those benefits than to get wicked high for a few days.

The pharmaceutical industry is known to be pretty unscrupulous. Still, I think it's worth noting, Methamphetamine was once prescribed alongside non-methylated varieties. Methedrine was a really big brand name for some time. If you're a nerd like me and you enjoy reading about the history of pharmaceuticals, you will notice that throughout the 50's-early 70's Methamphetamine was often singled out as especially addictive/dangerous. You also hear of users seeking out Methedrine over the non-methylated stuff.

This time period was noted as an Amphetamine-epidemic. These drugs were given out like candy until the 1973 Dangerous Drugs Act, which caused Amphetamine production to drop by 90% virtually overnight. I believe there is ultimately a good reason why Methamphetamine is not prescribed in favor of Amphetamine.

My final point, you can't ever minimize the importance of having pre-portioned, standardized dosage units for drugs. Whether a drug is in the form of a pill or a powder, it shouldn't make a difference if we can utilize basic math; at least that's what we tell ourselves. In practice, having drugs in the form of loose powder is inherently more dangerous in terms of the potential for abuse. Not only is it more difficult to measure dosages, the psychological characteristics of addiction mean it's always easy to add just a little bit more and tell yourself it's nothing.

If you had pills containing a standardized amount of pure Methamphetamine, I'd say it's certainly possible to use it in the same manner in which Amphetamine is used. However, I think its addictive potential is always going to be greater than that of Amphetamine, making it the worse choice for functionality, especially in the long-term.
 
I get Attentin (pharma d amph) for 2,2€ per 5mg pill. I take 15mg 5x a week so monthly costs are around 130€.

I can get D-Meth powder for 70€/g, so around 20€ monthly costs.

Some people claim that d meth is neurotoxic even on therapeutical dosages (that d-methylamphetamine damages parts and pieces in the dopamine and serotonin pathways)

But if that were true i dont think it would be fda approved. Should I switch to d meth because it costs a lot less?
I think it's a terrible fucking idea. The worst idea. That would be like buying street dope because your hydrocodone is too expensive. How do you think this ends?
 
I think it might be helpful if I share a little bit about my first-hand experiences with the substances mentioned in this thread. As most of you know, Heroin/Morphine represented 90% of my hard drug usage. I also would drink a fair bit back in the day. That doesn't mean I haven''t taken every other kind of drug out there though.

I was considered a very intelligent student, but I also had zero aptitude for the logistics involved with homework, punctuality etc. When teachers were putting work in front of me, it was easy. When I had to manage time and goals myself, I completely hit a wall. This is what led to my first foray with prescription stimulants. The issue was, at this time, I was also beginning to experiment with hard drugs like Oxycodone/Heroin etc. Amphetamines were just another drug to abuse for me. I thus never received consistent benefit with the medication.

I would go on to abuse Amphetamines recreationally, intermittently throughout my adult life. There were a lot of Amphetamines available in Cambodia, either Ya-Ba or shards of Meth. In Iraq you could get a script for Methylphenidate pretty easily, but you could also buy Captagon (fenethylline) just as easily. I would use these mostly to wake myself up if I was too sedated from Opioids. I had never really attempted to use Amphetamines in any manner that could be considered "responsible". Likewise, I assumed that I was probably incapable of using them in such a way.

After I had been off Heroin for a few years, I somehow came to the conclusion that I should try a stimulant prescription again. This was a pretty risky proposition and in retrospect, I don't know what had gotten into me thinking this would be okay. I made a decision that I would trust my medication with another person to see how I would do with it. This is a practice I cannot recommend enough for folks struggling with medication compliance.

I was pretty blown away when I took over the prescription after 3 months. I was actually able to take it as prescribed. I had seen how beneficial it was for me to have the medication and my matured mind did not want to sacrifice these benefits just to get really high. In short, the positive effects on my professional/personal life was getting me higher than the drugs would, if that makes sense.

I have used Methamphetamine. See, Methamphetamine didn't really exist in New England outside of the insular community of Gay men who used it. It came around for the first time maybe 10 years ago. My point is, it was not a feature of the drugs landscape in my childhood -> age 24-45.

You could say Methamphetamine is, apples to apples, just a more potent Amphetamine. If one is to adjust the dosage accordingly, they should be essentially interchangeable. In my experience, that is overly simplistic. See, I have used Methamphetamine on whim for the same reasons I might buy a couple of Adderall tablets; I needed to work an overnight shift or something like that. Well, I did this a couple of times and found I could never stop before I went over a line I didn't want to go over.

I would go into these experiences absolutely only wanting to be "more awake" for a reasonable amount of time, say, for the duration of my shift. Instead, I would end up staying awake for 3 days. I would end up using a bit too much to be able to go to sleep, right, then l would have no choice but to use more Methamphetamine to stay awake for that shift and by day 3, I'd feel like a hollowed out husk/robot. I've always heard stories of folks staying up for a week, two weeks... three weeks? Fuck, I can't even comprehend how my body would feel. as 3 days awake seemed like it was totally devastating.

I eventually came to terms with the fact that I could not use Methamphetamine in a reasonable way. It was either I would end up on a binge or I wouldn't be doing it at all. This is the relationship I have with the majority of psychoactive substances to this day. I can take Methadone, Gabapentin/Pregabalin, Cannabis and my prescription Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse), but the majority of substances derail me from being functional.

So I was surprised when I found I was able to control my usage with the Lisdexamfetamine. When I started taking it, I was very apprehensive and cautious. For whatever reason, I've never just taken my whole prescription in a few days. I've never completely lost control. I'm not sure if this is maturity or if it's the result of harmonious biochemistry; I see the benefits I can gain from the medication and I would rather have those benefits than to get wicked high for a few days.

The pharmaceutical industry is known to be pretty unscrupulous. Still, I think it's worth noting, Methamphetamine was once prescribed alongside non-methylated varieties. Methedrine was a really big brand name for some time. If you're a nerd like me and you enjoy reading about the history of pharmaceuticals, you will notice that throughout the 50's-early 70's Methamphetamine was often singled out as especially addictive/dangerous. You also hear of users seeking out Methedrine over the non-methylated stuff.

This time period was noted as an Amphetamine-epidemic. These drugs were given out like candy until the 1973 Dangerous Drugs Act, which caused Amphetamine production to drop by 90% virtually overnight. I believe there is ultimately a good reason why Methamphetamine is not prescribed in favor of Amphetamine.

My final point, you can't ever minimize the importance of having pre-portioned, standardized dosage units for drugs. Whether a drug is in the form of a pill or a powder, it shouldn't make a difference if we can utilize basic math; at least that's what we tell ourselves. In practice, having drugs in the form of loose powder is inherently more dangerous in terms of the potential for abuse. Not only is it more difficult to measure dosages, the psychological characteristics of addiction mean it's always easy to add just a little bit more and tell yourself it's nothing.

If you had pills containing a standardized amount of pure Methamphetamine, I'd say it's certainly possible to use it in the same manner in which Amphetamine is used. However, I think its addictive potential is always going to be greater than that of Amphetamine, making it the worse choice for functionality, especially in the long-term.
One of the best posts I've read on Bluelight.
 
Caffeine no doubt has effects on our cognition. You could even say that a high dose of Caffeine can cause Euphoria if you are not tolerant to its effects. However, the stimulation of the mind comes with extensive peripheral stimulation. In short, Caffeine is self-limiting in how ¨high¨ a person can get on it. You can only handle so much caffeine before you're contending with palpitations, tachycardia and anxiety.

I'd actually differentiate caffeine from all other stimulants. It has quite a unique effect as it's a metabolic booster which increases the metabolic rate (meaning thyroid & mitochondrial function). The metabolic system is in many ways the body's "core engine" upon which everything relies on. This gives some insight into caffeines influence and awesome potential when used appropriately, this means ensuring there is sufficient fuel to sustain the enhanced/accelerated metabolic rate. Fuel implies glucose/carbs.

Using caffeine inappropriately implies using it with insufficient fuel (glucose/carbs). This causes a crash which triggers the stress response (to raise blood sugar): cue cortisol, adrenaline, jitters, anxiety, palpitations, fight-or-flight mode etc.

This quote outlines it well:
Symptoms to expect when you do coffee right are calmness, focus, motivation, warmth, and stable energy. Coffee done wrong leads to anxiety, shakiness, sweating, feeling wired, inability to focus, and sometimes cold extremities.

Considering caffeines theraputic potential for supporting & repairing metabolic health I'd consider it a valuable tool for addressing the underlying issues that result in the symptoms of ADHD.

To clarify the meaning of "metabolic health/system", metabolism governs energy levels, mood, brain function, stress regulation and hormone production. It's led by the thyroid which coordinates mitochondria (billions of them) that make energy & hormones. A slow thyroid or impaired mitochondria will lead to issues (fatigue, anxiety, brain fog, PMS etc) which are usually characterized by low dopamine and elevated stress/adrenaline (cue hyperactivity, impulsivity, fight-or-flight mode) ... this is the scenario that a doctor would recognise as ADHD.

Imo there exists fundamental misconceptions about the nature of ADHD which the public have adopted from the corporate healthcare system — the same system where pharmaceutical companies influence scientific research allowing them to establish (1) specific theories about ADHD and (2) studies which justify the use of their drugs as the only suitable option available. They also influence the material used to train & educate doctors who distribute their drugs (3). You could call this a "triple win" but it's for their benefit, not ours.

There's no denying that ADHD drugs provide significant temporary relief from symptoms but if you dig a little deeper into the underlying biochemistry and take the time to appreciate the nature of the complaints & issues that people on the drugs are having you might start to question the official ADHD narrative, including whether the approved treatments are truly the most appropriate solution.
 
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⬆️ with Coffee and energy drink, both with a load sugar. Caused bad side effct s and crashes. Not on Guarana, Mate, Matcha or Cola-nut.Consumed without load of fast sugar s.


Before AD[H]D meds , d/ l- Amphetamine/ Speed. Had a profound effect on focus. Preparing for exam s was easy and felt good, instead of nervously staring a book for 7 day s. Never had a dealer. For the best looking back. Was cheap a dirt.

Probably would have finished high-school earlier. Maybe help in setting direction,
Planning ahead/ choices. Are greatly enhanced to and that even help s better.
I can force focus but took me a long time to learn. The med s actually might have helped with developing or age ? .

White powder doesn t really equal a pill. Let s say when tested. A solution seem s safest. So the urge to is not stimulated as a white powder can have on some. YMMV.

No experience with d-MethAmphetamine. Only d/l-Amphetamine powder.
More abuse able ime than d- isomere. Extracted that once, snorted.
Didn t make it better at all. But typical drug seeking behavior. ⚠️ Drugs have that effect on some :sneaky:

d-MethAmphetamine seem s above d/l-Amphetamine in effect s.
 
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