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EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...

Bleaney said:
as I'd imagine if you sent off a few samples of different gear, and saw what each one contained, you'd soon develop a taste or sense as to what each batch actually is, according to it's appearance, and smell, and how it runs etc....

It could save your life one day, for example if you'd had a previous batch tested as containing fent or nitazenes as the primary ingredient, and then any new batches that were along those lines, you'd possibly know. Without needing a further test.
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Bleaney said:
@Zopiclone bandit On second thoughts I agree with APF about the Wedinos error rate. It is very difficult to estimate, when basing it on own your personal experience alone. I suspect APF is basing it on a wider circle of people that have used the service, and is therefore more likely to have a more accurate error rate, than my estimate of less than 10%. Which I would now take back, and agree with the 2%.

The bottom line is they provide an excellent and free service, and they are right the vast majority of the time. It seems the odd error here and there is easy to spot, as it's just so out of place. Like that example I had of nicotine or caffeine supposedly being in my benzos. It just seemed obviously wrong.

I really would hate to put you, or anyone you know, off using them, as I'd imagine if you sent off a few samples of different gear, and saw what each one actually contained after testing, you might be able to develop a taste or sense as to what each batch actually is, according to it's appearance, and smell, and how it runs etc....

It could save your life one day, for example if you'd had a previous batch tested as containing fent or nitazenes as the primary ingredient, and then any new batches that were along the same lines, you'd possibly know. Without needing a further test.

I'm not 100% sure if I'm right about that though, but it makes sense to me that once you've had certain things tested as kosher, or for containing something else, then you will have that as a future reference point, and may be able to tell by the appearance, taste, smell, effects, how it runs etc...

It's generally served me well with benzos, knowing what the genuine ones are supposed to look and taste like.
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I got called out by my dealer who is very tech savvy & knows Bluelight Forum & knows EADD very well, he knew it was me due to Gabe The Dog & my love of MDPV from a Spanish Vendor.
I tired to act like I knew nothing about what he spoke of but I couldn't get out of it sadly, he said I can say what I like but I'm not to even mention his "street name" which made me laugh, I have NEVER used any street names for anyone & never would.

He became aware of EADD & BL during The Heroin Drought years ago as he wanted to see how the rest of The UK was doing with the supply & how far the TCP tasting Heroin was going, he said I have a weird way of typing & using language, sadly another EADD member sniffed me out online only a few weeks ago due to the way I type & also that fucking Gabe The Dog too!!!!!!!

Someone I know had some gear tested & the results were a bit shocking, I was suspect about the Heroin as it had a slightly "off taste" & I KNOW what good Heroin tastes like, it's 100% correct & fitting to what you said in the above post, you hit the nail right on the head with that one.

You would NEVER think a B dealer would use BL if I am honest, "Superman" as I will call him sure knows about it, I had the shock of my life when I was called on it to say the least.

Superman - "ZB" I seen your posts on EADD mate!!!!
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I think it's great that dealers are using BL and even better if they are using Wedinos.

Not sure what they'd do with that info, if and when they got it, but if they had any kind of decency or conscience you'd like to think they'd tell their customers to go easy with certain gear if it had 'major' amounts of fent or nitazines in it.

The cynic in me suspects that if anything tested as full of only good stuff, that would give them an opportunity to bulk it out with hopefully harmless cuts.
 
Bleaney said:
I think it's great that dealers are using BL and even better if they are using Wedinos.

Not sure what they'd do with that info, if and when they got it, but if they had any kind of decency or conscience you'd like to think they'd tell their customers to go easy with certain gear if it had 'major' amounts of fent or nitazines in it.

The cynic in me suspects that if anything tested as full of only good stuff, that would give them an opportunity to bulk it out with hopefully harmless cuts.
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It is a very sad thing to say but he is the only dealer who sells B who actually gives a damn about the quality of his product.
He said he wants it to be strong so his customers get the desired effect they are after & they will come back to him, every dealer texts out the same bullshit daily such as "Fire B & Mind Blowing White. Line Active, Get At Me" but "Superman" will just let you know his phone is on, he has no sales pitch.


Before his last stay at HMP Butlins he had turned off before for a couple of weeks if the gear he could get wasn't that great, he said he would prefer to only sell something worthy, he says Heroin addicts are "Very fickle" when it comes to the quality, I laughed when he said it but I can't call him out for it as what he says is true.

He is very much like the original DPR (Dread Pirate Roberts) of The Silk Road in his views on the legal issues of using drugs & also the quality, Superman is the only dealer I have ever known who sells ANYTHING so I am talking about my OLD TIME Soapbar dealers as a young kid right upto the guy who texted me a shout out 5 mins ago who has gone to visit his customer in hospital & took him a bag of heroin, he said if he had an operation & was in pain he would like some gear instead of fucking flowers, you cannot argue with that logic IMHO.

Superman is a rare one, he doesn't use anything himself, not even Caffeine let alone smoke Heroin off foil but he understands the basic rules of Supply & Demand. it's so rare from the customers view to have a dealer who actually likes you, he won't sell to anyone he doesn't like, several of the pre-gab, aggressive begging types cannot score off him as their attitude stinks, they lack any manners or basic "stuff" that makes people nice, IMHO his attitude is a fine example of how to behave & it builds Respect & extreme loyality in his customers.

He will be doing Gratis / Focus Points next month 😜:LOL:
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Managed to get through several days of a guy gouched out on our bench without me asking for a 'favour'.

Worst thing was that today I was ready to give in. Get high. He didn't show, although I saw him earlier. But it's probably for the best; I could either end up scoring shit or getting someone who calls me every day wondering if I want his 'help' or if I have anything to spare.
 
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I would think it's definitely for the best.

Apart from all the things that could easily go wrong, even if you did end up scoring some really good gear, and really enjoyed it, and found a reliable source, would that be a good thing in the longer term?

There seems to be some of us on here that go through cycles. Abstinence. For months or years, if not permanently. Then re-start, maybe just the once, for w/e reasons.

Maybe that would be that. But it's unlikely. There would likely be repeats. And then things can go in several ways. But they usually end up going one particular way.

I don't have much experience with heroin, but have followed a similar path with other substances.

This time I'm managing the cycles, and they are considerably shorter and lighter, with all other things, apart from benzos. And even with those I'm still in the therapeutic dose range, but things have gone on much longer than is ideal.

But with benzos I have an exit strategy.

I've quit previously, during awful circumstances. Next time round, the circumstances are very unlikely to be anywhere near as bad. The only thing that will be going against me, will be that I'll be older.

And I recently heard that it gets harder for the brain to repair and re-adjust the older you are. Which may or may not be true. And to what extent I don't know.
 
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Best of luck with the benzo thing. Sorry if I went on a little bit.

Six years ago I lived above the local Yellow Pages of heroin. And he was deep enough to only use the good ones. All numbers memorised.

It was so easy to have a shitty Tuesday and end up with a few pipes and a couple of bags. Easier than calling for a pizza.
 
Whizz is so cheap that the quality doesn't even really matter

20 quid for a q of nine to one bash and you're flying for multiple days, I usually end up flushing like half of it because i get bored of it

Some of the solvents they cut it with are a real pain in the arse though
 
45 hours 35 mins into my withdrawl, 40mg of Methadone has done fuck all & the moment it hit my stomach I vomited so hard but held it in my mouth & swallowed it all back down as it was the Meth for my day.

It's like "God" is fucking with me, had 2 calls to help people I know off road to score & had to turn them down, that was the most hard thing I have ever done, it felt equal to the moment you decide your pet dog is suffering enough & has to go take an injection to die.

I feel like shit, the meth has done hardly anything, at the very most it's made my legs stop twitching so badly, it's NOT stopped it, it's just made it chill out a bit but apart from that I feel like I would if I had taken fuck all.

I would be so glad for 600mg of Pregabalin but I was given a gram of very nice CBD heavy, Afghan family Indica weed to smoke which I was very glad for & smoked so many bongs yesterday I managed to eat 1 round of Toast over the space of a hour & managed to keep it down.

I have got 2-3 days left before the physical part is over with, then comes the worst IMHO of PAWS & the suicidal feeling of total empty Nihilist depression.
 
Do you not even have someone who'd throw you a bag for the favour of getting them something? That's how I got on for a long time, both as the recipient and the scorer.

If you were in the vicinity I'd happily oblige, although I'd be watching for the Novichok and not mentioning Anton Long.
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
20 quid for a q of nine to one bash and you're flying for multiple days, I usually end up flushing like half of it because i get bored of it
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THROWING SEDATIVES AWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE BORING!?

Imma gonna find you and take your brains. You get mine. I will give you pacifier as interim. You will need it until you find liquour shop to drown the chaos.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
45 hours 35 mins into my withdrawl, 40mg of Methadone has done fuck all & the moment it hit my stomach I vomited so hard but held it in my mouth & swallowed it all back down as it was the Meth for my day.

It's like "God" is fucking with me, had 2 calls to help people I know off road to score & had to turn them down, that was the most hard thing I have ever done, it felt equal to the moment you decide your pet dog is suffering enough & has to go take an injection to die.

I feel like shit, the meth has done hardly anything, at the very most it's made my legs stop twitching so badly, it's NOT stopped it, it's just made it chill out a bit but apart from that I feel like I would if I had taken fuck all.

I would be so glad for 600mg of Pregabalin but I was given a gram of very nice CBD heavy, Afghan family Indica weed to smoke which I was very glad for & smoked so many bongs yesterday I managed to eat 1 round of Toast over the space of a hour & managed to keep it down.

I have got 2-3 days left before the physical part is over with, then comes the worst IMHO of PAWS & the suicidal feeling of total empty Nihilist depression.
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I only have experience with alcohol withyds rather than bobby brown ones, but yeah, the sheer boredom towards the end of your cluck is often worse than the actual physical tremors and vomiting that you get in the first few days.

If you've done 45 hours you can do another 45, keep at it lad, you'll be right as rain in a day or two
 
I don't know what would be more torturous, having a constant habit for years and then quitting or tapering, or going through constant relatively brief on / off cycles.

Obviously the w/ds will be less severe and long lasting following the briefer on /off cycles, but over time, those recovery cycles might add up to being as many days, if not more, as the person who uses constantly and then quits. And probably hurt a lot more if cold turkeying every time

I know not many people always have the money to pay for a constant habit, plus the availability of gear can vary.

I have to say that I've never been in this position with heroin. But I've been following the posts about this, and have a fair bit of experience with other opis, and various other substances, and similar sort of effects seem to be seen across all substances that create w/d syndromes.

I know heroin is one of the physically hardest ones, especially going cold turkey.

I also know that @Zopiclone bandit is already stoic about things, and already very resilient. I heard something the other day about how going through things like this can make a person a lot more resilient in life generally, if they have the right attitude. And the positive they can take from each w/d is that they are further strengthening their resilience and physical toughness. I didn't know any of this until I heard this the other day, and I thought it could help me to toughen up a bit and be more positive, and maybe make my w/ds easier! I dunno if most people already do this / know this, or not. If so then apologies for stating the obvious.
 
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Being permadrunk (or, I assume being permaopied) isn't actually that bad as long as you can afford a steady supply, Starting and stopping every few weeks really does a number on you though, the withdrawals get worse every time due to the kindling effect, eventually the withdrawal takes up more time than the binge.
 
Ok I have a story fuck anyone has heard...I tried sublingual dosing of Resilar, DXM product that is commonly extracted sorbitol fuck off from when intended to use in large doses. I get really easily diarrhea of stuff. So I figured out DXM absorbs sublingually, not sure if true, and took dose and sitted in the train. I was noticing that my cheeks started to flex as my saliva added to the compound. I overestimated my ability to just, like, not losing control of the situation, because that's exactly what happened next. There was influx of red syrup to my jacket and chin and I excused my way away to train WC as people were supposedly disgusted and shocked (mind you, this was also corona age) to spit out the stuff and left in next train stop.
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
Starting and stopping every few weeks really does a number on you though, the withdrawals get worse every time due to the kindling effect, eventually the withdrawal takes up more time than the binge.
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I fucking hate that kindling effect,

I'm sure that is the stage I have reached with Kratom. The w/ds these days feel worse than the highs are good and they last longer too. But then when the kratom takes those w/ds away it feels extra good :\

It's a shame, as kratom can be a useful and versatile substance, but not when things get to this stage.

I'd hate to have throw out my remaining kratom, if and when I finally complete my taper. But it seems it's no longer possible to dip and out without consequences that are a drag. And it's just setting myself up for failure to have a selection of strains to choose from, as w/e I get the opportunity I'm going to dip in. If it's there, I'll use it. If it's not, hopefully I won't waste any more money on re-ordering.

It's all on the mild to niggly side, rather than anything extreme or brutal, as I keep my binges as short as possible, and my daily taper doses as low as possible too.
 
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