Will i see a decent government before i die?

[Shambles]

What Issy said.

The Beatles & Stones were obviously far from the only ones forced to pay 90% tax. The rich parasite has always been with us. Feeding upon us.

As noted, assets are much, much harder to hide than income. This is precisely why the Elites fight so very hard against wealth taxes. Because they work.

Would such a tax affect me, you, pretty much anybody here? Of course not. It only affects the kind of parasites that are paying little or no tax currently, so why would anyone be against it?!?

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

There are second order consequences.

I'm not a simp for the rich and powerful, but realistically, they pay a massive proportion of tax. Probably not a good idea to scare them off

 

[Ismene2]

There are second order consequences.

I'm not a simp for the rich and powerful, but realistically, they pay a massive proportion of tax. Probably not a good idea to scare them off

Well there's that stat that says the top 1% pay 30% or whatever but that doesnt have to mean they pay a lot of tax personally. It might just mean they are so rich that even if they only pay 10% tax a year it still adds up to more than you can raise from the half of the population who are jakey fuckers. Whats the average wage these days? 34 grand? Piss-all.

Its not the rich people we want its their assets. If some landlord owns 10,000 houses in the UK he can piss off wherever he wants. But the rent he collects on those 10,000 houses still gets taxed.

 

[Ismene2]

Would such a tax affect me, you, pretty much anybody here? Of course not. It only affects the kind of parasites that are paying little or no tax currently, so why would anyone be against it?!?

I think gary stevenson suggests 1% on your wealth after the first 10 million.

 

[Shambles]

I think gary stevenson suggests 1% on your wealth after the first 10 million.

I’ve said the same for a long time now. Rising with the millions, naturally.

 

[KurtAurelius]

There was hope maybe vain in me seeing how many Green Party seats and Lib Dem’s, but it’s a lot to put faith into them getting in down the line and how they would handle running…

With the policy’s put through, and how asleep most people are, I like to be optimistic but I generally believe most are so distracted from their technology, and the constraints of day to day life that won’t lend to thinking any further..

I would be shocked to see a government that effectively manages the cluster fucks we have on the horizon. Even though things are way worse now, I’ve been afforded a peace in Rural UK, and by being sparing with my finances.

I struck gold being assessed with a few months for ADHD as many other poor fucks wait years..

But when we have such rigid, and long lasting conservatism especially when such a fucking tumor like a House of Lords exists, how can we expect them to make any meaningful changes to the state of the country and the way the system operates.

^ to add that we have so many involved in running that have no concept of real life, and thinking solely through such inflexible “systems” that cannot cope with either reality or the chaotic world we live in.

There’s alot to sort. I’m prepared for the worst and making the most of now.

But gutting the social care system and restarting it (as someone who has worked in this industry what I know and see would enrage many) legalising drugs and regulating, the education system being again gutted and built back up. I will leave it there to not bring to much ideology into it or the fact it’s not my place to say much more about the direction we take.

Deary me..

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Any of you cunts up for starting a 'Bluelight party'?

I'm fuckin sick to death of this lot already...

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

if you campaign for free crack on the NHS I'm on board, regardless of other policies

 

[Shambles]

Hundreds of people arrested for peacefully holding Palestine Action signs - gotta love our totally sane and sensible government…



I say UP THE PA!!!

(by which I obviously mean good on male parents - definitely not Palestine Action cos that would make me basically Osama bin Laden innit )

 

[Shambles]

“Infiltrated” or simply found their natural home?

 

[Shambles]

This clip, and Robespierre’s analysis, totally sum up my notion of the average Reform voter: rightfully aggrieved by decades of unfair treatment for average British people… yet woefully ignorant and uninformed when it comes to the underlying reasons… which the GBNews presenter attempts to twist to classic far-right talking points… which will sadly take root in many

tl;dr - not evil - not even necessarily wrong when it comes to identifying issues - but depressingly far from reality when diagnosing the reasons why…

 

[KurtAurelius]

This clip, and Robespierre’s analysis, totally sum up my notion of the average Reform voter: rightfully aggrieved by decades of unfair treatment for average British people… yet woefully ignorant and uninformed when it comes to the underlying reasons… which the GBNews presenter attempts to twist to classic far-right talking points… which will sadly take root in many

tl;dr - not evil - not even necessarily wrong when it comes to identifying issues - but depressingly far from reality when diagnosing the reasons why…

Bang on here, recently have listened to my father in law (who voted conservative for years, thinks himself a free spirit because he smokes weed, and has done some dodgy grafts in his youth..)

Spend far to long one evening attempting to convince me how certain reform will legalise the ganja and will also stop the boats

 

[Shambles]

Speaking of chuds…



So this convicted racist terrorist is now out…

Personally I agree with the commentary in the above video that her sentence was too long.

However, she is a self-admitted racist terrorist so should she be lauded by the right as a bastion of free speech or just confined to the dustbin of trash human history?

Yes, yes I am in the latter camp for seemingly blindingly obvious reasons

 

[Shambles]

In more strictly on topic news…



I mostly - but not entirely - agree with Robespierre’s analysis here:

- housing asylum seekers in some form of governmental housing (be it disused military bases as stated here or otherwise - is not off the table for me. I dislike the dehumanising aspect but accept the social concerns. The financial issues are, as ever, handwaved by Reform.

- sending asylum seekers back to the countries they seek asylum from is obviously moronic, illegal and utterly off the table. Asylum seekers are not economic migrants - by definition they seek asylum from hostile regimes. Determining the validity of their asylum claims is required and accommodations need to be made where appropriate.

- “Five deportation flights per day” is entirely plucked from his arse so irrelevant.

- Accommodating asylum seekers in BOT is also irrelevant as it is obviously completely unnecessary and would make for no material change anyway: successful claimants would still have to be housed on the mainland and failed claimants would still be sent home whether they are processed on the mainland or in BOT.

- Signing deals with Rwanda has already been deemed illegal by the Supreme Court. Similar deals with other countries seem highly unlikely to succeed so also irrelevant.

- New crime of “Returning to the UK after failing initial asylum claim” would almost certainly be illegal under international law. Again, irrelevant.

- Leaving the ECHR and other international human rights legislation… leaves British citizens open to human rights abuses by every country on Earth: are you fukkin insane!!!

- 10B over ten years… Fukkin LOL!!!

- That abhorrent bit at the end where he says that asylum seekers sent back to be tortured and/or executed is just tough shit is so fukkin vile that agreeing/disagreeing with it should alone determine your worthiness of being allowed the privilege of British citizenship

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Hundreds of people arrested for peacefully holding Palestine Action signs - gotta love our totally sane and sensible government…



I say UP THE PA!!!

(by which I obviously mean good on male parents - definitely not Palestine Action cos that would make me basically Osama bin Laden innit )

You're not allowed to show support for proscribed organisations, this has been the case for a while. They could have written "Free Palestine" or something else on the signs, rather than the exact name of a group that has just been proscribed.

I personally think PA being proscribed was massively disproportionate, but it's hard to feel much sympathy for these people who are getting themselves arrested on purpose.

 

[Shambles]

You’re kinda missing the point of the protest there… the point literally was to be arrested in order to demonstrate the ridiculous nature of proscribing a group - literally equating it with ISIS - for simply damaging property.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Didn't they break into a military base and vandalise planes? It's not really the same as drawing a crude penis on the side of a bus stop. I don't think that a bunch of boomers going out of their way to get themselves arrested is helping the Palestinian cause much, in any case.

Regarding asylum seekers, the problem is that the bar is incredibly low for claiming asylum, you can turn up with no identification, claim that you're gay and from Pakistan or whatever, without showing any evidence, and you're classed as an asylum seeker. Even if your claim is rejected you often get to stay anyway. If you think that none of the people turning up at Dover are taking the piss somewhat you're very naïve.

 

[Shambles]

They sprayed paint on military planes on an airbase. That’s criminal damage, not terrorism. Terrorism - by definition - requires instigating terror in people.

Seeking asylum requires no evidence, but actually being bumped from asylum seeker to refugee status absolutely does.

Failed asylum seekers should obviously be returned to their home nations, but successful applicants are - again by definition - running from countries where their life would be at risk otherwise. These people deserve our help.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

However, she is a self-admitted racist terrorist so should she be lauded by the right as a bastion of free speech or just confined to the dustbin of trash human history?

Calling her a racist terrorist is absurd. A cursory look at what actually happened shows that she was pretty much railroaded into pleading guilty, and the crime she plead guilty to was massively overcharged. This happened to pretty much everyone accused of being involved in last years riots. If she got her own lawyer and plead not guilty, a jury would have likely found her not guilty, or at least guilty of something less serious like malicious communications or whatever. Regardless of what you think about their opinions the way they were rushed through the system and pressured to plead guilty to serious crimes was a massive miscarriage of justice.

 

[Shambles]

Nevertheless, she admitted to both racism (in the initial post) and terrorism (in court).

Was the sentence overly harsh? I would say it was. But the tags still apply imo.

Unlike PA, she genuinely and knowingly put lives at risk. Gleefully even. All whilst admitting her reasons were racist.

Yes I do think she was made an example of, but it’s undeniable her case carries more weight than the case of PA.

(Obviously these cases are unconnected but I do feel the terrorism aspect makes for the interesting comparison as both are examples of authoritarian government)