US Politics the 2025 trump presidency thread

[brokedownpalace10]

"Musk, who has been cutting thousands of federal workers as the head of Department of Government Efficiency, on Thursday reposted a message on X saying “Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Public sector employees did.”"

'Deeply disturbing': Musk's 'Hitler didn't murder millions' repost draws outrage

Musk's repost, which now appears to be deleted, drew furious reactions from workers and the Anti- Defamation League.

www.usatoday.com

Musk is raising quite a fuhrer

 

[Electrum1]

New poll numbers today looking favorable for this administration, especially if they can maintain similar numbers into the 2026 midterms

More registered voters say the U.S. is heading in the right direction (44%) than at any point since early 2004

The Democratic Party reached an all-time low in popularity in NBC polling dating back to 1990.

• A net 27% of those polled said they have positive views of the party (20% positive and 7% very positive).
• CNN's latest polling also found that the Democratic party's favorability rating among Americans is now at just 29%, a new low in the outlet's polling dating back to 1992

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www.axios.com

 

[kris66]

"Musk, who has been cutting thousands of federal workers as the head of Department of Government Efficiency, on Thursday reposted a message on X saying “Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Public sector employees did.”"

'Deeply disturbing': Musk's 'Hitler didn't murder millions' repost draws outrage

Musk's repost, which now appears to be deleted, drew furious reactions from workers and the Anti- Defamation League.

www.usatoday.com

Musk is raising quite a fuhrer

This is really sick.

 

[fairnymph]

"Musk, who has been cutting thousands of federal workers as the head of Department of Government Efficiency, on Thursday reposted a message on X saying “Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Public sector employees did.”"

'Deeply disturbing': Musk's 'Hitler didn't murder millions' repost draws outrage

Musk's repost, which now appears to be deleted, drew furious reactions from workers and the Anti- Defamation League.

www.usatoday.com

Musk is raising quite a fuhrer

Can anyone find a screenshot of this tweet? It should show up in my notifications if he posted it since I follow him, but I didn’t ever see that. But don’t know how to access notifications that old on my iPad to double check.

 

[tryptakid]

Can anyone find a screenshot of this tweet? It should show up in my notifications if he posted it since I follow him, but I didn’t ever see that. But don’t know how to access notifications that old on my iPad to double check.

 

[fairnymph]

Thanks!

 

[LucidSDreamr]

This is really sick.

It’s one thing for one man who knows nothing of real life to be a Nazi supporter. And he might not even be one; he may be doing this to purposely fracture US society and families making us more desperate and less likely to form a coalition to overthrow them with violence. Voting is totally compromised and wont work in the future. I’m sure DOGE has taken over the voting systems and we will never have a fair election again. The plan is for us to instead turn our weapons on eachother rather than those that exploit us.

So what’s most disturbing when you see family and friends you’ve known your whole life and assumed were half way decent people; watering at the mount at these displays.

The musk Nazi salute and tweets were all the final confirmation I need to finally realize how vile people in my own immediate family were and have to completely cut them off…again….after giving them the benefit of the doubt over the years. No, you’re cheering on Nazi salutes at a US presidential inauguration. These are truly vile people; what’s frustrating is that they somehow try to stay in your life acting like you’re the one overthinking it and gaslighting it. I won’t go to my own parents funerals and won’t feel shit if they die first. I won’t help them with anything and I would rather die of thirst on the street than ask them for a drink.

Elons plan is working. Americans have turned on eachother and as @brokedownpalace10 said; I expect mass violence within our lifetimes amongst Americans. Trump coming and going won’t fix it, we see our neighbor as our enemies rather than the ruling class. If your neighbor supports the ruling class aren’t they your enemy though?

 

[alasdairm]

New poll numbers today looking favorable for this administration

sure, depending on who you choose to believe.

Voters No Longer Think Country in Right Direction Under Trump: Polls

alasdair

 

[Electrum1]

That poll was:

47.6% male
52% female
.04% non-binary

So it's not surprising

 

[LucidSDreamr]

That poll was:

47.6% male
52% female
.04% non-binary

So it's not surprising

Approval by Democrat and Republican voters for their own party will always be highly assymetric because it is much more common for left wingers to hate democrats than right wingers to hate republicans.

Also the republicans party is far more right wing than the Democratic Party is left wing.

Conservative voters never change their opinion or admit they were wrong. For things completely outside of politics. They still won’t admit Christianity is false despite all the scientific evidence. Changing one’s views with the observation of reality is far more common on the left…this is reflected in the names progressive and conservative. So yes, it’s far less likely for people to feel regret when republicans are in power even if everything is objectively going badly.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

That poll was:

47.6% male
52% female
.04% non-binary

So it's not surprising

1. And? Women's opinions don't matter?
2. Where did you get those figures?
3. They don't add up to 100%
4. If you scroll down in the link you provided previously, you will see... ⬇︎⬇︎

Polls aren't too dependable anymore. At this point, reading all of them, you can really only know that support is slipping. And the early stages of that. The fact that he is still in what would normally be the honeymoon phase is what's most worrisome for him.

Also helpful is to remember that there are those two hard core, dug in, groups of lovers and haters and that the "third one third" is likely the only place you will see movement.

 

[alasdairm]

That poll was:

47.6% male
52% female
.04% non-binary

So it's not surprising

exactly. looking at a single poll in isolation is never a good idea. i've seen it as high as 50 and as low as 39.

you need to look at the aggregates which are at about 42.

alasdair

 

[Electrum1]

1. And? Women's opinions don't matter?
2. Where did you get those figures?
3. They don't add up to 100%
4. If you scroll down in the link you provided previously, you will see... ⬇︎⬇︎

1. What are you talking about with "Women's opinions don't matter?" I didn't say that at all. I said the poll was weighted more female. Females vote Democrat at higher rates than Males

2. I got the figures from the polls google doc that breaks down who they polled by demographics, which you can read yourself here:


3. I made a typo. It's .4% and not .04%. 47.6% + 52% + .4% does add up to 100%

 

[brokedownpalace10]

1. What are you talking about with "Women's opinions don't matter?" I didn't say that at all. I said the poll was weighted more female. Females vote Democrat at higher rates than Males

2. I got the figures from the polls google doc that breaks down who they polled by demographics, which you can read yourself here:


3. I made a typo. It's .4% and not .04%. 47.6% + 52% + .4% does add up to 100%

Which poll was it you looked into. There were a few cited in @alasdairm's link. I'd like to check the numbers. Women voted Dem 53% to 43% in the last election, they're not monolithic.

Did you scroll down in the link you provided as I asked?

Again, the main points were that 1. You can't trust one poll, you have to pay attention to trends in all and 2. The numbers you quoted weren't all that good at this stage of a new Presidency.
Biden's approval March 22 of his first year was 55.1%, (Trump's is 47%).

His approval is trending down from when first elected. Will you agree with that?

 

[Electrum1]

Which poll was it you looked into. There were a few cited in @alasdairm's link. I'd like to check the numbers. Women voted Dem 53% to 43% in the last election, they're not monolithic.

The Emerson College poll, the one the Google file breaks down

Did you scroll down in the link you provided as I asked?

Again, the main points were that 1. You can't trust one poll, you have to pay attention to trends in all and 2. The numbers you quoted weren't all that good at this stage of a new Presidency.
Biden's approval March 22 of his first year was 55.1%, over a 10 point difference. Comparing Trump's poor approval now to his poor approval previously doesn't mean much.

His approval is trending down from when first elected. Will you agree with that?

Well this is a chart from the NBC poll I posted, which shows there is more going on than just short term variances between different polls. There is clearly much more going on for this level of seperation to occur in a single poll with 35 years of data. Maybe the Democrats just pushed unpopular views and policies that their ingroup felt are popular, but aren't actually popular

 

[brokedownpalace10]

The Emmerson College poll, the one the Google file breaks down

You didn't cite which one it was. Do me a favor and do the same research on the YouGov and The Economist poll which showed worse numbers, just 36 percent of respondents saying the country is headed in the right direction and 52 percent saying it is headed in the wrong direction.

Well this is a chart from the NBC poll I posted, which shows there is more going on than just short term variances between different polls. There is clearly much more going on for this level of seperation to occur in a single poll with 35 years of data. Maybe the Democrats just pushed unpopular views and policies that their ingroup felt are popular, but aren't actually popular

I see the spike, and it's not surprising at all. You and I both know that's due to their own party being upset with them due to them not resisting Trump enough. The article you took that graph from cites that rather clearly. It also shows Republicans with a large disapproval rating.

Did you scroll down in the link you provided and to see this one?

Again, dude. Polls have not been all that great for a while. You can take an aggregate and determine trends, but I wouldn't take any to the bank. I'll certainly admit there is anger at Dems right now even if you won't admit Trump is slipping.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

The fact that around half the country views either party positively after the last 20 years make me think we have no hope. It’s been a downward spiral exponentially getting worse for the last two decades

 

[Electrum1]

You didn't cite which one it was

You gotta be kidding me. It's right there in the post that I already made and then even mentioned again. There is clearly a link to the NBC poll in the article

New poll numbers today looking favorable for this administration, especially if they can maintain similar numbers into the 2026 midterms

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www.axios.com

 

[brokedownpalace10]

You gotta be kidding me. It's right there in the post that I already made and then even mentioned again. There is clearly a link to the NBC poll in the article

I think you are confused. It was @alasdairm's link we were discussing.

There were two polls mentioned in @alasdairm's link. which I think I made rather clear. In the post you are responding to, you said it was the Emmerson poll and I said

You didn't cite which one it was. Do me a favor and do the same research on the YouGov and The Economist poll which showed worse numbers, just 36 percent of respondents saying the country is headed in the right direction and 52 percent saying it is headed in the wrong direction.

So, obviously, even just from that post, there were two polls. Did you not see that in the original article? Now, please do the same research on the YouGov and The Economist poll.

Did you scroll down in the link you provided and to see this one?

 

[Electrum1]

Then an ex-astronaut who represents your party decides to make a virtue signaling spectacle out of trading in their Tesla for a climate change causing SUV, at the same time that SpaceX is rescuing astronauts due to the failure of Boeing, lol. Total mystery why that chart above may become even wider

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SpaceX Rescue Crew Member Wears ‘Alien’ Costume to Greet Stranded Astronauts Before They Head Back to Earth

Astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams were greeted by Crew-9 commander Nick Hague wearing an alien mask as he deboarded with the SpaceX crew at the International Space Station on Sunday, March 16.

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