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ChemicallyEnhanced said:
IDK, but if hell is where all the sex, drugs and fun people are and heaven is full of christians, I DEFINITELY think hell would be VASTLY preferable
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That is the thing CE, I do chuckle when @LucidSDreamr says Fuck No to any more life . But we are in a world of duality. Day/Night, good/bad, a slew of darkness and light. Whatever someone says Fuck No to something the other end of the stick exists that says Fuck Yes. That really should be the focus. We can't say no without a yes existing too

Like a food buffet , don't get the food you don't like and say fuck no I hate this. Grab what you do enjoy and say fuck yes. We have some control. But focusing on darkness just gives us more darkness

Great thread I love these conversations.
 
JackARoe said:
That is the thing CE, I do chuckle when @LucidSDreamr says Fuck No to any more life . But we are in a world of duality. Day/Night, good/bad, a slew of darkness and light. Whatever someone says Fuck No to something the other end of the stick exists that says Fuck Yes. That really should be the focus. We can't say no without a yes existing too

Like a food buffet , don't get the food you don't like and say fuck no I hate this. Grab what you do enjoy and say fuck yes. We have some control. But focusing on darkness just gives us more darkness

Great thread I love these conversations.
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I may have already said this my my view on the preference for what death entails has nothing to do with life being bad. I could be on vacation in Hawaii with my best friends having the time of my life; on top of the world; the best natural highs life has to offer; nothingness is still the most preferred outcome for me. The ultimate peace; nothingness; no seeking of pleasure no experience of pleasure and no aversion to suffering - what Buddhist try their entire lives to achieve in a living state, death does automatically.
 
JackARoe said:
But we are in a world of duality. Day/Night, good/bad, a slew of darkness and light. Whatever someone says Fuck No to something the other end of the stick exists that says Fuck Yes. That really should be the focus. We can't say no without a yes existing too.
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Nature is pretty silent, but seems to be saying "Fuck yes!" all the time. Ever more complexity, diversity, and profusion of systems and organisms. If there was only a "Fuck no" the universe itself would be a barren waste, with nothing operating counter to the contracting forces of gravity etc.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
My point wasn't that this was proof that there is an afterlife; but rather that the (conscious) mind is not a good measure of an afterlife existing because we (as individuals) only know the contents or experiences of one part of our minds, and that the other parts of the mind are unknown to most individuals. đź‘Ť

While I personally believe in an afterlife I fully acknowledge that no one can prove if one exists or not. :cool:
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I am starting to really like you.

Have you ever heard of Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) & the guy I learned True None-duality from Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj?
His most Famous book "I am That" is online in so many PDF forms, you would do well to read it.

PLEASE check this out & let me know what you think about it.

 
Zopiclone bandit said:
What is funny about that @kiely I am confused why it's so comical, please say what I have done please.
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I'm glad for you opening up such an invitation to be a ' part of this '


It was the laughter of Joy honestly. I love the 'mystery' of the Hinduism and I think that there is so much truth in all of this too.


I always had a wonder about history and the cult of tradition.

.. oh that is all.
 
kiely said:
It was the laughter of Joy honestly. I love the 'mystery' of the Hinduism and I think that there is so much truth in all of this too.
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kiely said:
I always had a wonder about history and the cult of tradition.
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I got drawn to it after decades doing "magick" in The Western Chaos path, I tried to join The IOT but they refused to let me in when they found out I am Aghori in the Hindu Tradition. I spent a bit of time in the Aaiyyanist path at the start but after finding my "Guru" who's also English & Aghori he turned me onto the Nididhyasana texts like The Avadhuta & The Ashtavakra Gita which changed my Life.

Those Two texts that changed my Life are like Traditional Zen & Taoist Logic on Meth <3

“That one God who shines within everything, Who is formless like the cloudless sky, Is the pure, stainless, Self of all. Without any doubt, that is who I am."

"Truly, I am imperishable, infinite, and the embodiment of pure consciousness. I do not know how happiness and misery are experienced or who it is that experiences them."

"You do not belong to the five objects of senses, such as sound, touch, form, taste, and smell; nor do they, again, belong to you. Indeed, you are that Supreme Reality. What reason then have you to grieve?"
 
kiely said:
It's feeeels so good to be enlightened I could cry joy.
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The "DokkĹŤdĹŤ by Miyamoto Musashi.
The 21 principles of Dokodo

  1. Accept everything just the way it is.
  2. Do not seek pleasure for its own sake.
  3. Do not, under any circumstances, depend on a partial feeling.
  4. Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world.
  5. Be detached from desire your whole life long.
  6. Do not regret what you have done.
  7. Never be jealous.
  8. Never let yourself be saddened by a separation.
  9. Resentment and complaint are appropriate neither for oneself nor others.
  10. Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love.
  11. In all things have no preferences.
  12. Be indifferent to where you live.
  13. Do not pursue the taste of good food.
  14. Do not hold on to possessions you no longer need.
  15. Do not act following customary beliefs.
  16. Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful.
  17. Do not fear death.
  18. Do not seek to possess either goods or fiefs for your old age.
  19. Respect Buddha and the gods without counting on their help.
  20. You may abandon your own body but you must preserve your honor.
  21. Never stray from the Way.
 
#1 quote from The Hagakure also by Miyamoto Musashi.

"Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day when one’s body and mind are at peace, one should meditate upon being ripped apart by arrows, rifles, spears and swords, being carried away by surging waves, being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightning, being shaken to death by a great earthquake, falling from thousand-foot cliffs, dying of disease or committing seppuku at the death of one’s master. And every day without fail one should consider himself as dead”

 
Zopiclone bandit said:
I got drawn to it after decades doing "magick" in The Western Chaos path, I tried to join The IOT but they refused to let me in when they found out I am Aghori in the Hindu Tradition. I spent a bit of time in the Aaiyyanist path at the start but after finding my "Guru" who's also English & Aghori he turned me onto the Nididhyasana texts like The Avadhuta & The Ashtavakra Gita which changed my Life.

Those Two texts that changed my Life are like Traditional Zen & Taoist Logic on Meth <3

“That one God who shines within everything, Who is formless like the cloudless sky, Is the pure, stainless, Self of all. Without any doubt, that is who I am."

"Truly, I am imperishable, infinite, and the embodiment of pure consciousness. I do not know how happiness and misery are experienced or who it is that experiences them."

"You do not belong to the five objects of senses, such as sound, touch, form, taste, and smell; nor do they, again, belong to you. Indeed, you are that Supreme Reality. What reason then have you to grieve?"
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Thank you for your kind words especially in this existence.

I mean for sharing your compassion of communication of the consciousness.

Your posts are like wonderful verses as well. Much appreciated always. 💫🙂

It's a wonderful awareness, is it not !! <3
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Have you ever heard of Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) & the guy I learned True None-duality from Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj?
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Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi are two of my three trusted spiritual figures. 'I am That' by Nisargadatta is one of my all time favourite books, there's so much gold in there it's ridiculous.

Personally I don't like Osho, there's something about his character and some of his statements that do not impress upon me the sincerity and truthfulness that the aforementioned two do.
 
Idk.

Most of the time I feel like when you die, that's it.
But I've also had many experiences through out life that taught me that there IS more to this reality than we can see or even know about.
And I HOPE that there is something glorious & nice after death. But I guess even if there isn't, I'll be dead, so I won't be conscious enough at that point to care.
 
-=SS=- said:
Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi are two of my three trusted spiritual figures. 'I am That' by Nisargadatta is one of my all time favourite books, there's so much gold in there it's ridiculous.

Personally I don't like Osho, there's something about his character and some of his statements that do not impress upon me the sincerity and truthfulness that the aforementioned two do.
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Wow never heard of I Am That. Looking forward to looking into it.

Wasn't Osho really The Rajneesh in the 1980's? (however he spelled it?) He wrote a book called The Orange Book. It is the only book that I ever threw in the trash and got it out of my collection. That takes a lot for me as I keep everything. I think he got busted for a few things like sex and drug orgies in Oregon then changed his name. (at least from what I remember, not written in stone, it was the media story at the time) So yeah, not a fan. There was one specific thing that I read and said no no. (can't remember now lol)

If I were to pick someone I really like as a teacher it would be Paramahansa Yogananda. I read Autobiography of a Yogi 3 times in 40 years. The chapters called The Law Of Miracles and The Resurrection Of Sri Yukteswar are fascinating though the whole book is great.
 
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