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Pure Molly isn't always white, right?

These aromatic compounds are good at absorbing UV light, and as they accumulate, they pull a little bit of purple light out of the visible spectrum leaving you with yellow as the observed color.
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Ah-hah! (He says to himself.) I didn't know that, but it makes perfect sense now that you mention it. :)

Great post.
 
I have a gram bag of pure, pure powder from over 1.5 years ago. It has turned brown now. I also have other MDA and MDMA capsules (purchased between 1.5 to 2 years old) that have turned brown. Some already had lots of brownish specks, but they're pretty much all brown now.

I have 2 year old 2CB that has stayed white.
 
The colour really doesn't matter. I've had really good mdma that was greyish/off white, and really good mdma that was brownish/golden colour. I think the colour is there most likely because the mdma hasn't been washed with acetone, but I'm not an expert.
 
The two most common ways to purify crystalline products like MDMA are washes and recrystallization. With a wash, you simply rinse the crystals with a solvent that you expect to dissolve the contaminant, but which won't TOO aggressively dissolve the MDMA itself. Acetone is popular, but not the only option. Washes are limited in that they can only remove contaminants on the surface of the crystals, but since that's where most of the contaminants tend to be, it's a useful (and simple) option.

To recrystallize, you typically take a solvent that has a weak ability to dissolve the product (in this case, MDMA) and heat the crystals in the solvent until they melt. Then you chill the solution, causing the crystals to re-form (a bit like ice forming in the freezer.) Crystal formation naturally tends to exclude other substances, so by re-forming the crystals you can usually remove most of the contaminants (including the stuff trapped inside the crystals.)

Any purification method will remove a bit of the product as well as the contaminants, so there's a motive for a cook not to bother at all. In the end, whether they aim for glassy, ultra high purity crystals or just go with whatever the basic synthesis process gives them is arguably more a matter of personal preference (and a certain amount of professional pride) rather than chemical necessity, since the byproducts that remain after the first crystallization are likely to be present in only modest quantities and relatively inert. I'd prefer to see gleaming white, but I wouldn't necessarily be afraid of consuming a brownish or other tinted product either.
 
why need someone to clarify? basically everyone here is saying the same thing. some (like shulgin jr.) give the more accurate descriptions, but the point is:
pure mdma = white/translucent crystals
colouring = impurity present
but you can still have very high purity in coloured material as some impurities are strongly coloured.
and of course white doesn't necessarily mean that the mdma is pure, because there are a lot of white crystalline substances which can be used as a cut.
 
The mdma rock here is OG from the limburgish producer to my hand. That's what MDMA looks like. White 'MDMA' is usually methylone, it closely mimics 10/10 mdma (as shown below) and it could be argued that users can't tell one from the other. With that being said, if one has experience with both substances the differences are easily noticeable.
 
TLDR but pure 5-Meo-DIPT is pink,

The pure MDMA powder i have seen was Crystals that when powdered,
were pure white. So it depends on the substance, production and who knows.
Seen Brown MDA, that according to those who took it was pretty OK.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
TLDR but pure 5-Meo-DIPT is pink,
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From TiHKAL:

There was thus obtained 0.85 g of a fine white crystalline product, N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxytryptamine hydrochloride (5-MeO-DIPT), with a mp 181–182 °C (17%). IR (in cm-1): 731, 809, 826, 931, 1035, 1064, with an NH at 3165. MS (in m/z): C7H16N+ 114 (100%); C4H10N+ 72 (31%); methoxyindolemethylene+ 160 (12%); parent ion 274 (<1%). There was no detectable 5-MeO-NIPT by GC (<1%).

Pure 5-MeO-DiPT is not colourful... although little impurities can go a long way, especially with tryptamines who do all sorts of funky and colourful stuff.
 
xdrc said:
From TiHKAL:

There was thus obtained 0.85 g of a fine white crystalline product, N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxytryptamine hydrochloride (5-MeO-DIPT), with a mp 181–182 °C (17%). IR (in cm-1): 731, 809, 826, 931, 1035, 1064, with an NH at 3165. MS (in m/z): C7H16N+ 114 (100%); C4H10N+ 72 (31%); methoxyindolemethylene+ 160 (12%); parent ion 274 (<1%). There was no detectable 5-MeO-NIPT by GC (<1%).

Pure 5-MeO-DiPT is not colourful... although little impurities can go a long way, especially with tryptamines who do all sorts of funky and colourful stuff.
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It still as pink as when i got it, impurity probably. As you tripped ass on it.
Definitely active, just not a nice psychedelic. Felt like Acid on Speed.

Do see its degrading, well the plastic its in.
 
I've got 99% analyzed MDMA pure and it was a tan powder not white and not crystals.

I think the chemist transform their MDMA HCl into crystal form because enven if it contains water people like crystals and muggles always think crystal is the purest form.

And remember : Take a 99,99% white powder, add 0.001% of a strong black dye and you got a 99,99% black powder
 
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