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Is there anything other than Viagra that gives you an erection?

new2drugs said:
Anything else, whether it be a drug or something like water melon ( I know lol) that works in this regard??

On the flip side..avoid speed,!
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Watching my wife and my 19 year old g/f get it on together, lol. If that didn't give you a hard on we'd need to check you for a pulse, lololol!
 
Foreigner said:
Watermelon works because it is loaded with L-citrulline, which gets converted into L-arginine, which gets converted into Nitric Oxide (NO), which is what your body uses to expand blood vessels and cause erections.

I have also found taking magnesium regularly to be very helpful because it optimizes NO production in the endothelium of blood vessels and helps the body to retain NO for longer while under oxidative stress. If your body is in a constant state of tension due to lack mag, penis blood flow will suffer.

On that note, if you have a high oxidative-stress lifestyle, that will likely kill your erections, because the body ends up using NO as an antioxidant to combat free radicals. You can google signs of oxidative stress in the body to see if that matches. If your body is consuming NO as part of inflammatory processes, your boners may suffer. Of course, this gets worse with age.

And yes... declining testosterone can be a culprit, especially over age 35. None of the above strategies will work if it's a testosterone problem. Not all men enter symptomatic andropause, but many do. It's difficult to get TRT from regular doctors but not impossible. You could ask for a basic testosterone blood test from your regular doctor (free T, bioavailable T, and total T). If the results are low range or below normal range, then take your rests to a TRT clinic and get T. Don't bother with your regular doctor, they won't do it for you because they are trained to not help men with this problem. They'd rather put you on antidepressants and other shit.
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Does watermelon contain L-Citrulline? Yes of course it does. However given it takes approx 1000g of watermelon to offer you 2 grams of L-Citrulline and a clinical dose of Citrulline is 6-9 grams, nobody is going to get an erection from eating watermelon. Its another one of those, "I guess on paper it's possible" but in real life nope, no way is that going to happen!

Magnesium is an excellent supplement for a lot of people because many are deficient in it. However if you are not deficient it isn't going to help your erection issues! Make sure to take the best form of magnesium as some forms will give you gastro issues pretty bad. Magnesium Bisglycinate is the all around best form according to most who supplement with Mg.

other than going on TRT to raise T levels if low, and using the traditional Viagra/Cialis combo (they work much better together than either solo) or using PT-141 (doesn't work for everyone male & female included) there really aren't many options. Of course the first step is always to find out why you have a droopy peepee in the first place before you go taking drugs to try and solve the issue!
 
fibroguy said:
Does watermelon contain L-Citrulline? Yes of course it does. However given it takes approx 1000g of watermelon to offer you 2 grams of L-Citrulline and a clinical dose of Citrulline is 6-9 grams, nobody is going to get an erection from eating watermelon. Its another one of those, "I guess on paper it's possible" but in real life nope, no way is that going to happen!
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It really depends on the person. Some people respond to smaller doses of things, especially if the deficiency is steep. I have personally seen vascular improvements from eating watermelon daily, in normal quantities, during the summertime.

This is why consuming fruits and vegetables regularly instead of looking for mega doses of things can be useful.

fibroguy said:
Magnesium is an excellent supplement for a lot of people because many are deficient in it. However if you are not deficient it isn't going to help your erection issues! Make sure to take the best form of magnesium as some forms will give you gastro issues pretty bad. Magnesium Bisglycinate is the all around best form according to most who supplement with Mg.
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I have had improvements in erection quality from taking mag and I was not seriously deficient (according to RBC mag test).

fibroguy said:
other than going on TRT to raise T levels if low, and using the traditional Viagra/Cialis combo (they work much better together than either solo) or using PT-141 (doesn't work for everyone male & female included) there really aren't many options. Of course the first step is always to find out why you have a droopy peepee in the first place before you go taking drugs to try and solve the issue!
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I think modern medicine doesn't truly know all the mechanisms behind erections, so they can't cover everything. However, if viagra or cialis work, and hormone testing turns out normal, then it implies there is an NO deficiency or vascular issue. The vast majority of middle aged men I've treated for ED don't do any intense cardio and that's going to be a big issue for erections.
 
I don't know why, but here in Italy, many Egyptians are hunting for tramadol because they are mistakenly convinced in my opinion, that they have a much more consistent and lasting erection.
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new2drugs said:
Anything else, whether it be a drug or something like water melon ( I know lol) that works in this regard??

On the flip side..avoid speed,!
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I've got an idea you might want to try. It's something I accidentally stumbled upon a couple years ago.

But I was going through a period where I was having a hard time getting out of bed and/or I was oversleeping through my alarm. So about 30 minutes before I wanted to be up I set a different alarm (in the bathroom so I HAD to get up for it) and I'd go in there and take a stimulant/supplement so 30 minutes later I'd hop out of bed easier. I'm sorry I can't remember the actual name of the supplement, but it contained green tea extract and caffeine.

But anyway, 30 minutes later when I'd wake up I'd always have a rock hard erection. And no they weren't typical morning boners. I only occasionally have those, and when I do it's more like a semi-hard erection. But with these green tea things I'd always be rock hard. Every time. The sample size was too big to be some coincidence.

I find this interesting, though, because it doesn't make sense to me. Caffeine and other stimulants never give me an erection. Actually, the opposite is more likely to happen. So was it the green tea extract? I suppose. I have green tea sometimes and nothing happens to my big fella. So... whatever. Perhaps for whatever reason this is how my body reacts and it's not the norm for others.
 
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Cult315 said:
You’re right there, elections typically don’t get me very aroused.
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I've thought about this before but have never talked out loud about it. But I've always felt that women, and maybe even some men, mistakingly equate erections with arousal. Like, if someone accidentally sees a naked man undressing, and notices that he has an erection, I'm betting most people assume he's horny. But he's probably not.

Erections that originate without the purposeful destination of climax always have non-sexual triggers. Maybe I shouldn't say always. For me, anyway. I just got done sharing a post about how a certain supplement caused me to wake up with erections. But that doesn't mean I woke up horny.

I think erection jokes in pop-culture and movies are probably responsible for this misconception. In silly comedies how often do we see a male character watch an attractive woman walk by, followed by an instant boner. Those that remember Wayne's World will probably recall how the word "shwing" became popular for a little while.
 
This boner talk has got me thinking and I have 3 questions for anyone reading. But 1 question is targeted for men, 1 is for women, and 1 is for Australians.

For men: Do you agree with me that many erections, maybe even most erections, happen without something sexual going on or without you feeling "horny"? I mean, I can see a beautiful naked woman on TV or something... or anything visually stimulating, without a subsequent erection. You could sit me in front of the hottest 90 minute porn movie I've ever seen and I'd probably be erection-free the entire time. As long as I'm not getting simultaneously touched down there. I think Cialis might trigger an erection in the above situations, but otherwise I'm assuming I'm the norm and not an outlier. Do you guys agree?

For women: I've been talking about how some erections can occur without any sexual stimulation whatsoever. But what about getting wet? Can/do women get wet for non-sexual reasons? Do women ever have moments where they're wet and they have no idea why?

And, I suppose I have a second semi-related question for women: Is it easy to get yourself wet without any sexual touch or stimulation? In other words, if I challenged you to close your eyes and get yourself wet just with your private thoughts, in a quiet room with no one around, would that be slam-dunk easy?

For Australians: I lived there for 6 years. And I remember reading in a book over there that "morning glory" is Australian slang for morning erections. BUT... it didn't seem like all Aussies were familiar. I cracked up when I first hear this term and I remember using it occasionally. And I clearly remember some Australians (not all) being unfamiliar with the term. Does this surprise you or is this my imagination? Is it possible the term is more associated with a certain age group?
 
Asparagus_Prince said:
For Australians: I lived there for 6 years. And I remember reading in a book over there that "morning glory" is Australian slang for morning erections. BUT... it didn't seem like all Aussies were familiar. I cracked up when I first hear this term and I remember using it occasionally. And I clearly remember some Australians (not all) being unfamiliar with the term. Does this surprise you or is this my imagination? Is it possible the term is more associated with a certain age group?
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People will know what it means but it's not that common.

Boner, stiffy, morning wood, hard on more widely used.
 
Foreigner said:
I think modern medicine doesn't truly know all the mechanisms behind erections, so they can't cover everything.
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Somewhat recently I watched something that touched on the association between vascular/circulation problems and ED. And it was suggested that this association is vastly overrated and that ED is far more likely to be related to mental health and anxiety.

God I wish I could remember where I saw this. I can't even remember if it was something I read or something I watched (how is that possible?) But I do remember thinking the source seemed legit and respectable. And it had a pretty big impact on me because it explained a couple things from my past that I'd always wondered about. I'll get back to that in a sec.

But before I watched/read this I don't think it ever occurred to me that ED was related to anything but circulation and/or general health issues.
Now, I'm not suggesting it's ALL mental and I don't think the source was saying that either. After all, I think we all know a 30 year man is more likely to get it up compared to his 70 year old self. So of course there are physical/deteriorating variables in play.

But I'm wondering if the mental factor leads the charge and is the #1 factor. If people have circulation or physical health issues in addition to the mental factor, then of course that's a double-whammy that makes everything worse.

It'd be fun to study this. I'd like to round up 1,000 guys with these very similar characteristics: Presents as confident, somewhat apathetic when it comes to emotions/feelings, no history of anxiety disorders, is able to confidently approach/flirt with women. Then take 1,000 different guys that are exactly the opposite. Challenge all of them to go out and have as much sex as possible with as many people as possible. I'll bet the first group have more stiffy luck.
 
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Asparagus_Prince said:
Somewhat recently I watched something that touched on the association between vascular/circulation problems and ED. And it was suggested that this association is vastly overrated and that ED is far more likely to be related to mental health and anxiety.

God I wish I could remember where I saw this. I can't even remember if it was something I read or something I watched (how is that possible?) But I do remember thinking the source seemed legit and respectable. And it had a pretty big impact on me because it explained a couple things from my past that I'd always wondered about. I'll get back to that in a sec.

But before I watched/read this I don't think it ever occurred to me that ED was related to anything but circulation and/or general health issues.
Now, I'm not suggesting it's ALL mental and I don't think the source was saying that either. After all, I think we all know a 30 year man is more likely to get it up compared to his 70 year old self. So of course there are physical/deteriorating variables in play.

But I'm wondering if the mental factor leads the charge and is the #1 factor. If people have circulation or physical health issues in addition to the mental factor, then of course that's a double-whammy that makes everything worse.

It'd be fun to study this. I'd like to round up 1,000 guys with these very similar characteristics: Presents as confident, somewhat apathetic when it comes to emotions/feelings, no history of anxiety disorders, is able to confidently approach/flirt with women. Then take 1,000 different guys that are exactly the opposite. Challenge all of them to go out and have as much sex as possible with as many people as possible. I'll bet the first group have more stiffy luck.
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From everything I've read and all the guys I've talked to about this over the years, I don't think anxiety is a major factor. If it were, then young men would be equally as susceptible to ED than older men, or even more so, as younger men have less sexual experience than older men. But it's actually the reverse. A lot of guys are mentally turned on and want to have sex but their penis just doesn't respond, or their erection is very short lived.

Personally I think the androgen receptor plays a role. It changes as life goes on, becoming less receptive to androgens, even if a guy takes things like TRT. But also things like cardiovascular health will certainly play a role. There is direct proven connection between lack of cardio exercise and ED, which is why vasodilator drugs work. They mimic the NO release of intense cardio. Also things like LDL:HDL ratio, and hematocrit are part of the picture.
 
Oh, I almost forgot the main point I wanted to make. This will be anecdotal, but it's why my source made such an impression on me...

I've never had ED. But, in my past I have had, shall we say, moments where I struggle or fail to "get it up". These moments haven't been common at all. A few times I had too much alcohol in my system, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about this...

But a long time ago when I was 20 I was really struggling to perform for this person I was seeing. This shocked me because I'd never struggled performing before. Not consistently and with the same partner, anyway. It felt like it came out of nowhere. But looking back on it I think I now know why. I felt morally uncomfortable being with this person. She was fun and I liked her and everything. But I personally did not feel right being intimate with her. I'm really tempted to go into the details but I'm not going to because this post is already too long and no one is reading anyway. But I was basically feeling a lot of guilt and discomfort because of certain things I knew that she didn't realize I knew.

Back to my phantom source. I seem to recall it talking about ED as though the brain is in self-defense mode. It's as though the brain is telling your penis "Don't! This is uncomfortable. Or scary". And I suspect general anxiety/MH could always be a factor. I've never tried to have sex when I'm deeply grieving the loss of a loved one, for example, but I'm guessing things might remain soft in that situation too.

There is one other lover from my past that I struggled with, too. God, I'm embarrassed when I think about what she must've told her friends about me. But basically I'd never been with someone that I was so intimidated by.

I just now proof/skim read this post and I feel like it probably reads as though I've had a lot of lovers and experiences. I haven't. I don't know what the average is for how many lovers a person has at my age, but I'm guessing I'm average or a little below average.
 
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Foreigner said:
From everything I've read and all the guys I've talked to about this over the years, I don't think anxiety is a major factor. If it were, then young men would be equally as susceptible to ED than older men,
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I just now wrote a post that probably seems like a response to your post that I'm quoting here, but it wasn't. I read your post afterwards. But it mostly worked as though it was a reply!

I think I disagree with your quote above. I don't have any evidence to back it up. But I do know anxiety can be circumstantial. It can come and go in an undiagnosable way that makes it elusive from empirical pursuits.

I also disagree with your statement because of something I touched on in an earlier post. Actually, I don't know if we're really disagreeing or if there's a misunderstanding. I think you're thinking my argument is that anxiety is the sole factor for ED. I don't believe that. Somewhere earlier it probably came across that way. But it's more accurate for me to say that I'm suggesting, or suspecting, that anxiety/MH is a very underrated and concurrent factor along with physical health. Of course many young men that are relatively anxiety-free could get older and have ED. Because the physical factor eventually breaks the camel's back, just as Father Time does in almost every area. Conversely (sort of) young men can perhaps have abnormal anxieties that could almost cock block them, but they're able to overcome it due to their youth and health. That's all I'm saying... that 2 different things can be happening at once. And that the mental factor is probably vastly underrated.

Besides, I'm sure there are plenty of young men with a clean bill of vascular health that struggle with ED. I used to have a friend that probably qualified. Even if there are only a couple million such cases worldwide, that still leaves us with a couple million unanswered questions if we rule out mental factors.

And I do mean that... mental factors. Not solely anxiety, necessarily. I do think there's something to watching too much porn, for example. I think that can condition the brain in unhelpful ways. And maybe that leads to objectifying women and disengaging from the types of emotions that most of us would consider healthy and associated with sexual activity.

But back to the circumstantial anxiety vs diagnosable anxiety thing... even if a guy does have a certain type of underlying mental health diagnosis it's not difficult at all for me to imagine how that could affect sex. Imagine he has a new girlfriend that he really likes and is about to have sex with for the first time. Foreplay starts and he's thinking "Oh God I hope I can get it up. Unlike last time. I don't want to disappoint this one too!' If someone has memories of disappointing previous partners, perhaps partners they respected and cared for, then I can see how the struggles could keep piling up which makes everything increasingly harder (no pun)

I don't know if it's essential to be relaxed and at ease when having sex, but I think it's pretty important. Maybe that's why THC is a popular sex ally. Obviously women don't have to worry about getting and maintaining erections. But I'm guessing women and men both mutually agree that sex is better when relaxed, comfortable with your partner, and devoid of an unusual amount of general anxiety and recent life stress. The opposite of all that, of course, would be anxiety.
 
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Phenibut gets me horny af in larger dosages. also laying off of all drugs I get super horny always at some point. I swap between hyper and hypo sexual.
 
Probably mentioned already a few times but TL:TR.

Before mention it do you have morning Wood, like is it functioning.
Every morning i know he works, well atleat till today.
Never no what tomorrow brings, hope not a limp dick.

On topic. Durian/ Doerian/ Stink fruit, looks like a Dragon Egg.
I advise a pre made product found Asiatic shops, sold as a candy.
The fruit puree and sugar. Doesn t taste good but gave,
a god awful bigger boner, i was shocked.

Till i orgasm-ed and realized i shocked to soon.

My Orgasm was intensified to higher levels.
And extended lasting 3/ 4 x times longer, and the load.
Underwent the same, getting sticky now so i shall stop.

Next time in big city i m gonna visit a Toko, for sure.
Almost forgotten how pleasurable a orgasm can be.
Lacking a playmate, not really stimulating.
And getting some Durian 'pleasure enhancing' candy !
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Probably mentioned already a few times but TL:TR.

Before mention it do you have morning Wood, like is it functioning.
Every morning i know he works, well atleat till today.
Never no what tomorrow brings, hope not a limp dick.

On topic. Durian/ Doerian/ Stink fruit, looks like a Dragon Egg.
I advise a pre made product found Asiatic shops, sold as a candy.
The fruit puree and sugar. Doesn t taste good but gave,
a god awful bigger boner, i was shocked.

Till i orgasm-ed and realized i shocked to soon.

My Orgasm was intensified to higher levels.
And extended lasting 3/ 4 x times longer, and the load.
Underwent the same, getting sticky now so i shall stop.

Next time in big city i m gonna visit a Toko, for sure.
Almost forgotten how pleasurable a orgasm can be.
Lacking a playmate, not really stimulating.
And getting some Durian 'pleasure enhancing' candy !
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Purée - Wikipedia

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What is puree?
 
A mild to moderate amount of cocaine (Don't go too far with it or it will have an opposite effect)

Having relations with an attractive woman (or man if you're a gay) will work for most people, have you tried this and still not been able to achieve an erection?

Meth is popular for orgies but I've never tried that. Mephedrone works too. Again. don't do too much or it will stop you from getting a boner.
 
Thank s but puree is

Purée,​


spot on, whe must have lend that word from French.
No clue which way they used for stink fruit candy.
But sugar was added. better.

But take a look at the fruit and you get my attempt to find a substitute.
Which to work, maybe fresh is even better.
And either placebo or it worked really good, it was btw pure bodily.
What i experienced, wonder if it also has psycho-active alkaloids ?

Ones that make you feel Hone. y.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
 
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