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This guy?

"Poilievre has criticized "wealthy investors who borrow it (money) and bid up housing prices,"[188] however, according to his disclosure statement to the federal ethics commissioner, Poilievre co-owns a real estate investment company that owns a condo in the Calgary area, which he rents out to a tenant.[189] His wife, Anaida Poilievre, also owns a rental property in the Ottawa suburb of Orleans, which she bought in 2012 and took out a mortgage on in 2020. Poilievre has defended his investments, saying that he and his wife are “helping solve the problem by providing affordable rental accommodations to two deserving families”. He also said that his wife used the equity in her property to “maximize the best interests of her financial position.”[190] Poilievre's rental properties have raised criticism[189] in light of Bank of Canada data which shows that investors – which they defined as “mainly domestic buyers”[191] – outpaced first-time homebuyers during the COVID-19 pandemic, and a Statistics Canada report that stated "Owners seeking additional properties contribute to increased competition in already tight real estate markets, making it more difficult for prospective homeowners to purchase a home".[192]"
 
Mjäll said:
Nothing needed beyond the basic fact that not everyone agrees that nuclear war between retarded religions would be a gift to humanity.

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Bombing their nuclear facilities would be to prevent the use of nuclear war though. 🤔
 
someguyontheinternet said:
This guy?

"Poilievre has criticized "wealthy investors who borrow it (money) and bid up housing prices,"[188] however, according to his disclosure statement to the federal ethics commissioner, Poilievre co-owns a real estate investment company that owns a condo in the Calgary area, which he rents out to a tenant.[189] His wife, Anaida Poilievre, also owns a rental property in the Ottawa suburb of Orleans, which she bought in 2012 and took out a mortgage on in 2020. Poilievre has defended his investments, saying that he and his wife are “helping solve the problem by providing affordable rental accommodations to two deserving families”. He also said that his wife used the equity in her property to “maximize the best interests of her financial position.”[190] Poilievre's rental properties have raised criticism[189] in light of Bank of Canada data which shows that investors – which they defined as “mainly domestic buyers”[191] – outpaced first-time homebuyers during the COVID-19 pandemic, and a Statistics Canada report that stated "Owners seeking additional properties contribute to increased competition in already tight real estate markets, making it more difficult for prospective homeowners to purchase a home".[192]"
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That's the best you could come up with?
Let's try to stay on topic.
The time you spent looking for unrelated dirt to smear the guys credibility, you could've been addressing the point he made.
 
Can’t say I love Pollievre, but Trudeau has to go.
I do agree with Pollievre on this particular topic.
 
Mjäll said:
This statement may contain traces of naivety

But then again so does that

Or does it
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Well you could easily prove which of us is naive by explaining how the nuclear war would develop and who would be the parties involved.
 
mal3volent said:
Well you could easily prove which of us is naive by explaining how the nuclear war would develop and who would be the parties involved.
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Nah i think it's enough to be like:

If it was that simple i guess it would've happened already

And/or like:

I dunno but blowing up nuclear facilities sounds like escalation

This is standup comedy obvious no.

You guys are not rooting for more war by accident. It's designed.
 
Oooh Israel the good bad, the desert retard arbiter of truth!

Oooh Hamas and Islam the good bad, the desert retard arbiter of truth!

No u! No u!
 
We get it. You don't like religion.

I would suggest approaching things with a bit more nuance though.

Just a tip.
 
Great i will be more nuanced like you and pick sides instead of not doing that


Gotcha capn
 
Mjäll said:
Great i will be more nuanced like you and pick sides instead of not doing that


Gotcha capn
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Im critical of both sides. But in most cases, one side is more wrong than the other. The correct thing to do is acknowledge this, rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water and presenting some kind of false equivalency.

That's intellectually lazy.
 
mal3volent said:
Im critical of both sides. But in most cases, one side is more wrong than the other. The correct thing to do is acknowledge this, rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water and presenting some kind of false equivalency.

That's intellectually lazy.
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Such a dynamic is indeed often the case in many intellectual issues, but this is one of earth's most intricate, deepest conflicts, all rooted in ancient delirium, and laying claim on absolute truth is quite bold. Instead the relevance for us western civilians lies in acknowledging the futility of engaging in the conflict as outsiders.

Consider the blatant social correlates of this polarization. What's the use? What do YOU gain from sympathizing with Israel? What does the other guy gain from sympathizing with Hamas? And conversely are you perhaps acting in service of anything concerning while doing that?

Propaganda wants you to pick sides but do you guys want that for yourselves? To us neutrals it's clear that both sides have some arguments in favor. It seems to me then that this perspective offers greater intellectual width. Of course if you're in the conflict you're gonna be on some side but that's different.
 
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