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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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InvegaAnon said:
I'm convinced psychiatry doesn't completely understand the relationship between cannabis, psychosis, and the induction of schizophrenia through cannabis. They can't tell isolated psychosis from cannabis, cannabis-induced schizophrenia, or withdrawal psychosis apart. I just learned withdrawal psychosis was possible and it's probably what happened to me!

I smoked weed every day for three years with absolutely no issues. It never made me clinically paranoid. The worst it did was cause disassociation and it made me hyperanalyize my actions and thoughts because I have morality OCD and I constantly need to check to make sure I am not and have not turned into a very bad person. But I have a very marijuanaphilic brain. It helped my depression and OCD even if it made me spiral sometimes, so much so I didn't feel like I needed an antidepressant.

Full-blown withdrawal psychosis happens a week after you quit smoking cold turkey, each time it happened to me and I thought I was manic from my ADHD meds.

And yet I'm still not "schizophrenic because of weed". Other than withdrawl from invega, I've had no further mental disturbances. I bet if I had tapered off of cannabis I would've been fine and returned to normal without worry of psychosis.

Peoples' lives get ruined because of the lack of understanding and the lack of study. Fuck Nixon for making drug research too difficult, now we know next to nothing and people are getting hurt because of it. I don't believe people need antipsychotics (when the episode is THC-related) unless the psychotic episode persists past two weeks and they certainly don't need to be put on drugs for life because of isolated cannabis psychosis or withdrawal psychosis. Latent schizophrenia activated by cannabis is a whole other animal and it must not be confused with these two things, and it sadly frequently is.

If I ever get to piss on the graves of the provocateurs of the war on drugs, I'm going to take the opportunity.
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it's funny that you say my withdrawal psychosis occurs 1 week after stopping that's what happened for me I've been smoking since but 16 years I'm not 28
 
fenec said:
it's funny that you say my withdrawal psychosis occurs 1 week after stopping that's what happened for me I've been smoking since but 16 years I'm not 28
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They need to study cannabis's relationship to psychosis further. It can cause it, but it can also cause it when you quit in some people. Ruining peoples' lives with antipsychotics is avoidable.

Don't smoke daily. I'm never going to go back to smoking daily. I wasn't really doing that by choice, I had chronic pain but my treatment for what caused that is working now.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
Well , officially 7 months have passed since my last invega injection and unfortunate to say there have been no significant improvements since i quit 7 months ago. While I am noticing that I play more video games and watch lots of YouTube, none of it brings me any type of joy or pleasure. Could this be a sign that my brain is recovering and my anhedonia is lifting? no one knows, I will 100% know when my anhedonia lifts when I feel some kind of pleasure from my hobbies such as video games and movies but right now there is 0 pleasure. I have also picked up vaping nicotine in the last month and I also can't feel any nicotine but I just like the act of blowing fat flavoury smoke with my coffee which I also don't feel either. I mentioned that I was on a diet on my last monthly update and while I did lose 15 pounds in the span of 4 weeks , I'm sad to say that I have put it all back on because I started eating out everyday . I got tired of eating eggs everyday and my cravings for processed food was so great that I genuinely believe it rewired my brain to be addicted to processed foods. I will begin my 2nd weight loss journey on October 1st and this time I will 100% stick to it, no more processed foods or anything. I want to lose 45 pounds to get to my goal weight of 160 pounds. I see a psychiatrist at the end of october and this will be another attempt at asking for a stimulant or an maoi . I know stimulants or maoi will help with the lack of motivation and concentration but because my history of psychosis no psychiatrist will give me either of these medication. Overall , I'm maybe at max 5% better but its really nothing when you take into account that I have been invega free for 7 months from now. I pray I see more results in the next 5 months.
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Starting a nicotine addiction isn't worth it. You say you can't feel it, you should quit while you're ahead. There's flavor vapes without the nicotine in them or you can use CBD vapes.

I didn't completely feel caffeine again until like a whole year later.
 
InvegaAnon said:
They need to study cannabis's relationship to psychosis further. It can cause it, but it can also cause it when you quit in some people. Ruining peoples' lives with antipsychotics is avoidable.

Don't smoke daily. I'm never going to go back to smoking daily. I wasn't really doing that by choice, I had chronic pain but my treatment for what caused that is working now.
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I prefer not to smoke at all because it's a vicious circle when you start you don't stop you fall into it I speak with full knowledge of the facts
 
@InvegaAnon what were the first months like for you? Bedridden? Unable to do anything? Barely able to bother getting up to eat? How about your first months after the haldol @fenec
 
BK38 said:
facts. I'm tapering off abilify only 10mg abilify a day now :)
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How is ability for you? How dose it compare to other aps if you've had any? Can you function? I seen you mention you were feeling great, so hope that continues for you
 
okthen said:
How is ability for you? How dose it compare to other aps if you've had any? Can you function? I seen you mention you were feeling great, so hope that continues for you
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It's way better than any other AP I've tried bar non. Bon courage! I can function 100%.
 
Youwillrecover said:
I am my parents just cut off the internet connection. Im recovering with weed. Im left with enormous trauma and ptsd and still numbed but i see improvements. Pray for me guys. I need hope and someone hugging me
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Wow dont scare me like that again I care about you bro you are my brother. Your parents make me very angry FCK THEM abusing you so much. Glad you are atleast seeing improvements in your condition just dont act out or fight them since they can get you more injections. Feel free to always reach out to me or anyone else in here.
 
okthen said:
@InvegaAnon what were the first months like for you? Bedridden? Unable to do anything? Barely able to bother getting up to eat? How about your first months after the haldol @fenec
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I was a complete zombie looking at the wall all day long I didn't even take a shower I had a clump of hair I won't even tell you about it I had joint pain severe headaches a desire to commit suicide a big depression all that went away in 7 to 8 months after stopping I was in bed 24/7
 
fenec said:
I was a complete zombie looking at the wall all day long I didn't even take a shower I had a clump of hair I won't even tell you about it I had joint pain severe headaches a desire to commit suicide a big depression all that went away in 7 to 8 months after stopping I was in bed 24/7
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crazy nightmares, short nights of 2 to 3 hours, trembling of the legs and jaw, heavy legs when I walk and I forget about it, I feel like I'm reliving it, I prefer to forget the nightmare.
 
today 13 months off for me I feel normal the only problems remaining is finding 100% libido as before and but deep emotions
 
okthen said:
@InvegaAnon what were the first months like for you? Bedridden? Unable to do anything? Barely able to bother getting up to eat? How about your first months after the haldol @fenec
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I slept a lot during month 1. I felt like an automaton, I was actually able to shower without forgetting to because it was one of the things that felt nice. Basically a "eat, take shower" robot. Month two, I thought it was out of my system and I started doing things because that gave me a placebo effect of sorts. I even started a painting and it looked pretty nice. It didn't take long to realize something was wrong and I came here. Funeral for a friend, it didn't feel real and I had trouble connecting to my friends who were there. My step-grandpa also died shortly after that, but I was able to connect to people more then. I didn't have a strong relationship or high opinion of him so I wasn't really that sad, but I cried when my cousins cried. I wasn't as emotionally blunted then as I am now, after trying Prozac. I had an emotional outburst at my brother for being a dick about transgender people and parroting Republican lies. I hadn't completely lost interest in the world and I didn't have strong anhedonia. I had a slight tremor, that's gone now. Mild hypoesthesia that became severe after Prozac, I still have just a little bit of that. Memory problems. I had some loss of coordination and dragged my feet, but I didn't have strong Parkinsonism. If I had a very simple manufacturing job I would've been able to do it.

My sexuality had started to come back. I was confident it would still be there when I got off the SSRI. I was wrong. If I didn't try Prozac, I would probably be completely normal by now. I consider myself only 75% recovered, which is good enough to want to live, but I don't feel completely alive yet. I didn't get hit as hard by invega as others but I got the full spectrum of Prozac injury.
 
Youwillrecover said:
I am my parents just cut off the internet connection. Im recovering with weed. Im left with enormous trauma and ptsd and still numbed but i see improvements. Pray for me guys. I need hope and someone hugging me
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How are you supposed to do anything for yourself without an internet connection these days? Internet connects you to jobs and stuff. As always, your parents are dicks.

Did you make any headway on trying to get a job? If you live in America, you can get vocational rehab, it's free. I'm on a pretty fast track with it, I'm probably going to schedule my job readiness training sometime this week.
 
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Me: I'm going to do the Bob Ross tutorial today without getting distracted at all! What a relaxing activity!

Real me: Time to start a video essay about the fucking Rwandan genocide at 3 AM!

I would just binge information like this all day every day before invega/prozac. Sometimes very dark history shit, because I wanted to understand how and why mass murder happens so I could see a genocide coming and prepare for fight or flight. I feel threatened by the political climate in America. I prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
 
InvegaAnon said:
It makes sense that black market extracts could be cut with stuff, more likely than flower. Horrible. The people who bought that were just looking for a special treat, I know how nice hash can be. Cannabis should have never been made illegal.

I heard of vegetable oil used in black market vape carts.
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Are mkx full gram carts cut? I get it for $5 from the dispo just finished one🔥🍃
 
Only major problem I have left is high nicotine tolerance weed works wonders🔥 a little akathisia tiny bit of brain fog but I had it before invega and emotions are fully there idk about 100 percent tho
 
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