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I hope you dont think I read that man

*edit* You wanna run an abstract or a summary paragraph or bulletin point your thoughts id be glad to prove you are stupid but I can't again I did the red font and it was madness.
 
Thank you for presenting all the other mainstream reasons and truly unfounded actions by Trump to which never resulted in what has resulted since this administration (not Biden), or corporations who wanted to be the patsy for all that is bad, etc.
Well, those were syllables.
I cannot believe the January event. Going after everyone just for being there.
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While our Congresspeople were being hurried to safety, in sight through those glass doors.
 
Drugs are not coming over the border where migrants do. They come in at major ports of entry like any other product. Closing the border does literally nothing to stem the flow of drugs into the US
"Those were syllables'' ....... Yeaaah I am really glad I chose not to read that persons post again. I dont need to mute them or anything my mouse isn't broke. But I aint readin it either lol.

I largely agree. When things are arriving in the #'s that we are talking about I believe a majority is blind eyed at some level.

"Anytime you see something criminal happening in open public and the situation continues with almost impunity; you can be assured there is corruption involved" The late Micheal Kenneth Williams. (who I still believe caught a hotshot for his fent expose) RIP dude was a 'real one'
 
the january event hahahaha oh is that what we call attempting to overthrow the US democracy; murdering a precious badge monkey, and attempting to hang the vice president of the free world.

quite an event. They are clearly hostages.
 
TL;DR ☞ This is a response to the lengthy comment left by @Rainman1964. There was a lot to respond to, and I felt like addressing all of it. I'm tired of rewriting this and I've been trying to whittle it down, but after two revisions I'm just gonna post it. The gist of it is: unless you're familiar with Secret Service firsthand, chances are you have no idea how they actually work & function, and there are valid security reasons for this. There's not enough footage and piecing together the exact timeline of events isn't going to be easy for anyone to do when they're not working with all the data. None of us are privy to those details.

And finally, I can't believe how many ppl are not aware of what a graze wound is. Trump wasn't shot directly in the ear, and yes, that would've probably blown his ear off. He was grazed by as bullet that whizzed by his ear and ever so slightly brushed along the skin as it (mostly) missed hitting him. You can get grazed by a bullet anywhere along your frame; the main thing is that it just barely makes contact with the skin as it goes by. It was a very close call and, no bullshit, Trump got lucky. We don't like to believe in luck or 1-in-a-million shots, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It happened. That 20-yr-old nearly murdered Donald Trump. That's what's fucking crazy.

Everyone who lives to hate Trump since he became President in 2016 all hate him for the same reasons. I would love to see an original thought and a reason that is not mainstream. All I see is that Trump is hated because his presence has never been presidential enough.
Then you're not looking hard enough at all. There are a multitude of reasons people hate Trump. Him being a terrible and embarassing statesman among foreign diplomats and world leaders is only one factor. Some ppl hate him for the "grab women by the pussy" comments. Others hate him for being a xenophobic racist who likes to insist he's not. Then there's hating him for inciting the Jan 6th riots. There's hating him for polarizing our nation and being in the pocket of Vladimir Putin. There's hating him for obnoxiously insisting Obama was not a U.S. Citizen. There's hating him for mishandling COVID-19 and for taking a wrecking ball to the Republican party. There's hating him for the lack of aide given to Puerto Rico after they were slammed by a hurricane.

Mind you, I'm not saying I agree with any of these, nor am I saying I hate Trump. He's done some good along with some bad. I like the criminal reform bill in the federal system his administration introduced and had signed into law. I like his emphasis on border control, which absolutely needs to be addressed. But it's shortsighted to think he's only ever criticized for not being a polished diplomat and statesman. I do however think that his business acumen is questionable, but his mastery of social media is unparalleled by any major U.S. politician so far.

I would have preferred Hillary Clinton had won, for many reasons.
Really? I can't stand Hillary Clinton. She's insufferable and a sworn enemy of your boy, Trump.

However, thanks to the left folk, the politicians as well as the citizens, I now support him 100%.
Right, that's the problem with our system. People vote against the candidate they hate, not for one they like. And both sides fervently blames the other for it. The left and the right are equally stupid as fuck.

he is easy to dislike, but I do not know this man personally, so I don't give a shit and he doesn't know I am alive.
Weird logic. He reflects poorly on the nation that I am from, because he's lazy, sloppy, overweight, rude, and lacking in grace, manners, refinement, style, respect for women, and any sense of decorum, despite purportedly being a multi-billionaire. Idk if you ever travel abroad much, but Trump is not a very popular character internationally. Don't get me wrong: we all know Biden is too old, but he's not the laughing stock level of buffoon Donald Trump is on the international stage.

… and not just reasons the mainstream everyday citizen has.
Conspiracy theorists and opinion piece pundits masquerading as journalists do not make someone enlightened. It's foolish to look down at "mainstream everyday citizens" based on this confusion.

I voted for Reagan (sp), then Bush, Sr., then Bush, Jr. (liked his sincerity on the Oprah interview and he was simple, "I want to be President . . ."), then I voted for Bill Clinton;
The order of that is off. It went Reagan → Bush (elder) → Clinton → Bush (younger). You voted for Bill Clinton both times?

would've voted for Gore, but the who Luwensky thing and his lying on TV that he didn't have sexual relations, etc., turned me off.
That was Bill Clinton, not Al Gore. What did Monica Lewinsky have to do with Al Gore? I suspect you're getting your facts mixed up with fiction, and Idk what you're on about. And you condemn Clinton whom you've mistaken as Al Gore, but you let Trump off the hook for having an affair and then lying about it. You see no problem here?

I didn't vote in the 2016 election.
I thought you wanted Hillary Clinton to win?

Being a divorced not once, but two times, leaving his first for the second, and being unfaithful to boot shows a man who is a man. . . wanting to get laid with other women besides his wife. He has paid for his indiscretions financially and a man who is Trump can only get these incredible woman because of his success.
Women are not trophies or prizes to be "got", just as a reminder. And success is no excuse to be an amoral classless asshole. Are you defending this behavior? And you're a woman? Also, I'm not a fan of his rhetoric in which he's talked about strategically bombing suspected Mexican cartel labs, without Mexico's consent, in order to disrupt the flow of fentanyl into the country. I'm worried about him removing term limits and attempting to establish a dictatorship he can try to pass down to his idiotic offspring…

Yes, he has gone bankrupt several times over. He has had many business ventures fail.
Oh I know. One was found to be fraudulent, that Trump University scam.

Yet, I don't see any of the millions of jerks bitching about what a loser he is when not one has the balls to try anything of that magnitude with no fear of failing just to try something else new and or different.
Firstly, having no fear is not the same thing as courage, which is acting in spite of fear. Having no fear is foolish and dangerous and not something to praise. Secondly, it doesn't take balls so much as a multi-millionaire slumlord daddy to loan you your seed money. Nothing against that, but let's not act like he doesn't come from a place of extreme privilege and has never lived a life remotely close to what the majority of American lives are like. Not to knock it, no one chooses the family they're born into, and everyone has their own trials and tribulations. Every family is dysfunctional if you look closely enough. Let's just not defend criminal idiocy or pretend Trump is entirely self-made.

Look at what he has taken on, with no fear of failing only to say "oh, well, I was the best at it, but it failed." He is the eternal optimist.
He is the eternal arrogance. Like I was saying: his daddy was rich before him, made his millions as a mid-century NYC slumlord. There's no questioning that Donald Trump's life is a successful one from virtual any perspective though. I've known about the man since I was like 4 or 5 yrs old and he was on WWF/WWE next to Vince McMahon. Later he was on The Apprentice with that same ridiculously bad hair saying "you're fired," like the stereotype of a pompous, prick son of the big boss, and everyone hates them both. He ran for president once before 2016 and was doing it again as a publicity stunt to help promote a book he had just published. The rest is history, and further underscores both the tremendous amount of luck he has had, and his ability to tap into a certain rebellious impulse in the American public against all odds.

His confidence is why his children adore him and are capable enough to even assist in the White House.
🤮 Give me a break. Eric and Don Jr.? Lol. And yes, Hunter Biden is a criminal fuck-up, but if we're using that degenerate jackass as a standard, we're not aiming very high. I'm not endorsing Biden, and I don't like playing us-versus-them, tit-for-tat politics. WhoTF cares? Trump is not a defensible candidate for any political party. He's a divisive asshole elitist megalomaniac with a penchant for being accidentally entertaining. The lowbrow irreverence and tacky-ass persona with the bad hair job, washed-up porn-star hush money, Bible salesman side hustler, and overall stench of Atlantic City seediness with a dash of Florida racism appeals to Americans who resent what they see as the bleeding-heart, liberal, Jewish-run, Black-favoring Ivy League "elites" who run D.C. and Hollywood… This is stupid thinking, and moreover, unnecessary and inaccurate. Besides, don't get me started on Henry Kissinger, or for that matter, Paul Wolfowitz. It's not a good look stereotyping all Jews, Blacks, and any progressive leaning liberal with an expensive education. Elitism takes all forms, on the Left and the Right. Wake up and smell the proletariat oppression, my friend.

Why is it okay for Biden to boast about the way he told the Ukraine folks to get rid of someone or there would be not funding, which is corrupt in itself let alone criminal. Then Trump questions Biden's actions, and he is impeached for it.
What are you talking about? How would Trump get impeached for questioning Biden's remarks on Ukraine and what is your source for this?

That is when I started to hate the Lefties and see what was going on.
1. You're stereotyping everyone who is liberal when you do this. And you're also failing to delineate between fiscal liberalism/conservatism and social liberalism/conservatism. This is unfair, inaccurate, and lazy.
2. "Hate" seems so extreme right here, especially considering point #1 above. And like I was saying, the U.S. voting system makes it so we vote against the party we hate rather than for a party we love.

Before Trump could even take office, a plan was hatched to get rid of him. Are you kidding me? And his cabinet members, people who work with him.
Most of them with little to no experience in Washington, just loyalists hoping for appointments and exploits. Opportunists and sycophants surround him once more.

They found reasons and reasons the left does every day only worse. Pelosi and all of the cabinet have made themselves very wealthy with insider trading. Public servants my ass. The socialist bullshit is never ending.
All of Congress take advantage of their position and so do judges, are you joking right now thinking it's only on the left? Pelosi isn't even in politics any longer. She's an old, old woman, why is anyone even discussing her since she's retired? It's weird the fixations people get with certain politicians… The fascist bullshit is equally never ending.

Since when do we put people in Congress who only serve their own self-interests -- from a place in the world that rejects everything that is America? Outside influences, my friends. Does that not concern you?
What like Russian influence on Donald Trump? Saudi influence on both Bush Presidents? GOP pundits sure like to hurl stones considering how much of a glass House they have in Congress. Should we talk about George Santos? Or how about the corruption of Chief Justice Clarence Thomas, nvm all the other allegations?

I have not problem with any one coming to America and making a new life for themselves, or for refugees, etc.
I do. We need tighter, smarter border regulation that we enforce, like virtually every other developed nation does. For a long time, the U.S. has enjoyed a geopolitical landlock with an ocean on either side of her. But now times are different. Technology, in particular the mass proliferation of smart phones and the ubiquitousness of cellular connectivity, broadband internet speeds, and social media have created a situation where knowledge of grifts in the system is disseminated at unseen speeds now.

But 911 happened, after the years it took for the terrorists to come here, learn to fly airplanes in America, then use our own plane as instruments of death.
Under George W. Bush. You're not making any sense right now, and this has nothing to do with the current immigration crisis.

Where was everyone? Asleep at the wheel, some knew about it even helped it happen. The corruptness goes on. The Patriot Act.
You've traipsed into 9-11 conspiracy theories now; it is not helping you make a clear point, especially when you keep citing "corruptness" that occurred during a Republican Presidency that was barely won on the strength of a recount in a state where the Republican nominee, George W. Bush's own brother, Jeb Bush, happened to be the Governor of the state. The Patriot Act and the way 9-11 was used to get public approval to invade Afghanistan and Iraq which ultimately destabilized the middle east and directly lead to the formation of ISIS. W., Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz can be blamed for that FUBAR'd calamity.

Edward Snowden. And Russia is keeping Snowden safe. Do you think they just let him live in Russia and do not bother him at all?
I'm sure they keep an eye on him, but he uncovered the crimes of an enemy state of the Kremlin at great personal risk. The enemy of one's enemy is one's friend, as they say. So, yeah, it's not surprising they granted him asylum. None of this is any kind of proof he was a Russian spy, but that's the conspiracy theorists' favorite angle, without any proof, just a cocksure overconfidence that they perfectly understand the nuances and intricacies of foreign diplomacy, despite lacking knowledge and experience on the subject. It's unreal.

Every one and every person has been put into place for a reason that some one or some corporation wants -- for self-benefit.
That doesn't make any sense. No one asked to be born; no one is here on purpose. We want to attach meaning to things, because finding meaning in life feels important and satisfying, but the Illuminati are an illusion of our own design. Life meaning is whatever we want to make of it. I'm not going to blame a phantom nemesis for the fact that finding meaning in life is often vexing, at times an exercise in futility, but worth the pursuit nonetheless. There's a thrill of pursuing happiness and attempting to help those around us while we figure out how to prevent our innate instincts for rage, vengeance, war, wrath, and us-versus-them thinking from taking over and destroying ourselves. It's imperative that we understand Liberals and Conservatives are both trying to make the world a better place for humans to live in, and sometimes they fuck up along the way. We are flawed and prone to making mistakes, but we're also capable of great redemption and the strongest form of love possible: forgiveness.

And we let it keep going on, turning on one another. This is exactly what our enemies have been wanting and planning for decades. The politicians are sold out, Congress is bought and paid for and the Senate is grandstanding but doing nothing that has made any difference.
I agree with all of this.

The Supreme Court is the one branch that if some of you would read opinions of this Court, would see that many personal political opinions are left aside. The Supreme Court has integrity which is more than I can say for any one else in the government.
Umm, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are not people of Integrity and neither is Donald Trump who still won't admit publicly to having had an affair with a porn star and then trying to pay hush money to cover it up with campaign finances through a proxy he later kicked under the federal indictment bus (Michael Cohen).

The Roe v Wade ruling was unconstitutional in how it came about. That is it.
No it isn't. Which amendment in the constitution is it breaking?

The Court cannot make law, it interprets it.
The court sets precedents though, because our judicial system is based on two things: 1. the U.S. Constitution including the Bill of Rights and all subsequent amendments and laws, and 2. case law which interprets the aforementioned Bills and amendments with the higher courts superseding the lower courts' rulings/findings, the Supreme Court being the highest. These are the strategic moves of a far-right, religious lobby who seek to roll back civil right's advances, many of which impact women's rights and urban communities. I consider religious fundamentalism to be a dangerous thing, particularly when coupled with fervent nationalism, propaganda-fueled revenge-lust and heaping helpings of numerous confirmation biases.

That was the mistake that caused the over turn. It should be with the States to begin with and the Federal government should not be involved in this.
What's your logic there? Healthcare is federal, and it's dangerous and stupid to have a patchwork of laws that changes from state to state depending on how conservative and religious the elected legislature is..

But the government should not worry about what is going on with a person's personal medical issues,
Why not? This is a matter of public health and safety, which is typically been the domain of the federal gov. like every other country in the world. Government exists to serve the people. It's in the best interests of both to have the healthiest citizens it can who share a good, common sense of morale, and who are, moreover, well educated. It benefits all of us to be healthy and educated, which is why support for better public education is very crucial, and it's gonna take some tax dollars, but healthcare and education are two good programs worthy of public investment and not left to the profit-incentive.

and women....and I am a woman...
And yet you support Donald "I grab women by the pussy" Trump who illegally uses campaign funds to pay for sex? Or more accurately, he paid hush money to a sex worker to be quiet about his marital infidelity with her, and this is your candidate? What were you saying about Bill Clinton earlier and lying about Monica Lewinsky? Yet you're okay with Donald Trump's sexual infidelities and refusal still to admit to them… And do we even need to mention the heartlessly sociopathic way he paid this hush money with campaign funds through his bozo attorney lackey, Michael Cohen, who is subsequently disbarred and sent to federal prison for the crime. This is your guy though, huh?

we have always had the power. The nonstop bitching about how men have supressed us and all the historical shit is pure female.
That's not accurate. Can you name a female author prior to the 1800s, for example? And how many can we name from the 1800s and the first half of the 1900s? Not too many. Is it a coincidence that women's lib hit at the same time medicinal birth control became widely available?

Did you know Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart had a sister who was equally as gifted a musician? Leopold used to take them around Europe together to have them perform for the entertainment of royalty such was their precocious talent. But few people have heard of Kate Mozart because: female. #wompwomp "Make babies, wench, how dare you have ambitions of your own? Shun your natural instincts!" Women still face oppression globally, not to mention discrimination, objectification, and all the bullshit that people like Trump have saddled women with their whole lives. And women still support him. It's mind-blowing.

I was angry about the Trump kids in the White House? What did they know about politics? They wanted to help their father since no one in that town respects the office of the President anymore, they only cared about getting him out because they don't like him.
Oh yeah right, like Trump had zero allies. GTFO of here with that bullshit sob story, like he was some underdog that people disliked for no reason, nothing to do with his politics, shitty foreign diplomacy and vague racism hidden behind dogwhistles like "MAGA". We managed to let him fly on autopilot while we all nervously laughed at how ridiculous sounding he was each day in office. The stock market did well as many of us rode the bubble's rising tides, knowing he would be friendly tax breaks for business owners, but what goes up must come down, and things really tanked with COVID-19 while Trump's lack of experience and public office leadership became evident. And the people, true to form, voted against Trump in 2020, even though the other candidate was not a strong choice.

Because he didn't belong there? No, because he had the balls to be obnoxious enough to be blunt and start telling everyone what everyone else is doing, has been doing and that he has always done. The ousting of the obvious is intolerable.
The rambling of the obfuscatory is flagrant.

The Democrat leaders are hyprocrits and will do the illegal and ugly to get what they want and get away with it because they know the Republican leaders have not balls to stop the Democrats.
WTF are you talking about? Your guy is a convicted felon, Bible salesman, who has been sued for millions of dollars in a libel case and sued for the con artistry that was Trump University… He has zero loyalty and will kick anyone under the bus to save himself, like look at how many people around him wound up in federal prison and/or under investigation. And then there's that creepy ass son-in-law he has, Jared Kushner, that hovers around him like a weird, power hungry crypt-keeper who secretly idolizes Heinrich Himmler and Joseph Goebbels.

As long as they let them get away with it, they will go out of their way and create new laws and fabricate witness and crimes to stop a political opponent.
If you're not going to base your theories on serious, provable, evidence-based facts and always believe whatever conspiracy theories most conveniently fit your political opinions, then what's the point of discussing any of this?

And people should realize that Trump has not been found guilty of molesting or sexually assaulting anyone by a group of his peers. The civil suit by a woman who was taken by her word alone and not one bit of evidence allowed a court of law with judges who have no right to be on the bench abuse the system to go after a person because of personal feelings and hate. This abuse is setting a standard that anyone now can be railroaded for any reason and be destroyed. There is not rule of law in this country anymore. And the double-standards are sickening.
It's amazing how you can see things that way, bending the truth and omitting critical and damning details while you defend the misogynist behavior and polarizing negativity of Donald Trump, a man who turned against his own Vice President and shows no capacity to be humble. Also, judges aren't the ones pressing charges; it's prosecutors. You need to understand the system a little better before slinging these arguments around like this. I doubt many people are reading this, so it's probably just you and me right now, so to speak, and I'm urging you to please reconsider your endorsement, and rethink this indictment of a supposed system that just has it out for Trump. He's blatantly breaking laws and abusing his power through judicial appointments who are ruling in his favor and against the better interests of the public due to political quid pro quo. His judicial appointments are the ones under fire for conflict of interest. Prosecutorial discretion is a matter of ethics, and I too suspect the political motivations for strategic criminal charging and scheduling of court dates to disrupt campaign efforts is shitty politics, and though it's not justification, I'll just remind you that Trump plays equally dirty. Both sides wish they could rig elections, but it's just not that easy.

The remarks that Trump knows will throw people into a hissy fit are the remarks that they really think he would believe and that he would do something serious with.
Yeah and there were Jews who voted for Hitler claiming they thought his antisemitic talk was just rhetoric to stir the people up. Whoops. Not that I'm comparing Trump to Hitler, but you know how you can't even joke about killing the president or taking a bomb on a plane, things like that? Yeah I don't think I like hearing a president or presidential nominee to engage in the reverse form of not-funny humor.

So, he makes a bunch of stupid assanine remarks.
A trait everyone wants in their elected leader…

No one is nor did they believe them as fact. yet the other side has said and one serious things to hurt the entire population. And then they blame Trump.
Wow, you are in love w/some Donald J. Trump and you have lapped up the Kool-Aid and can't help but spout out us-versus-them myths and combative accusations that lack evidence and reason.

Since this president came into office, madness has ensued and this country looks like its citizens are a bunch of baffoons.
We looked like buffoons when we elected a reality TV laughing stock who personified a bad caricature of a typical asshole boss who says inappropriate stuff frequently amid cringe worthy self-congratulating psychobabble. But honestly, you should look into the actual facts and accomplishments of the Biden administration.

But it's all Trump's fault.
You're making a straw man argument now. Also, one can be a conservative without approving of Trump's self-serving version of the Republican Nationalist New World Order.

After all, the man can't even have an assassination attempt against him without the morons considering that it was staged. And there you have it.
Oh I agree: it was definitely a legit assassination attempt. And there's nothing wrong or moronic to consider whether it was staged. I think it's foolish to conclude that it was staged based on some loose facts and quick assumptions, and there are too many logical issues this creates. Applying Occam's razor it becomes clear he was attacked in earnest by a disturbed young man hungry for political violence for reasons not fully understood yet highly politicized.
 
And finally, I can't believe how many ppl are not aware of what a graze wound is. Trump wasn't shot directly in the ear, and yes, that would've probably blown his ear off. He was grazed by as bullet that whizzed by his ear and ever so slightly brushed along the skin as it (mostly) missed hitting him. You can get grazed by a bullet anywhere along your frame; the main thing is that it just barely makes contact with the skin as it goes by. It was a very close call and, no bullshit, Trump got lucky. We don't like to believe in luck or 1-in-a-million shots, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It happened.
It would indeed be one in a million by all the experts I've read. It would have to be the perfect angle. It would be sus. So, it's actually a data point pointing away from some kind of conspiracy if it was some kind of shrapnel. That would be a more logical explanation.
That's why I was asking what you were basing your statement on. Didn't know if you were trained in such things.

We need the medical report on the wound. I do think that needs to be released.

Think Rainman1964 is an AI?
 
I still want to know what happened to the bullet. Did it disintegrate upon contact with Trumps massive ego?

If it was a graze wound then there would be zero to little deflection, so why didn't anyone directly behind him get shot?

Where can I get one of those trendy ear gauzes that all of the retarded right are wearing these days?

So many questions...
 
The latest MAGA wear.

Ear gauges

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It would indeed be one in a million by all the experts I've read.
It is neither impossible nor outlandishly improbable though. I see it as stronger evidence that it wasn't planned. The shooter was a piss poor shot according to the gun range owner where the shooter had practiced. Checks out. I think the kid just wasn't playing with a 52-card deck, as it were, whatever his motives may have been. Secret Service isn't perfect either. I say this bc: 1. Reagan almost got got, 2. agents are human, and 3. human's are mistake-prone, imperfect apes. Whoop whoop!

It would have to be the perfect angle. It would be sus.
Trump says the bullet "pierced his ear" which is vague to me Isconsidering he's known to be inaccurate, to embellish and phrase things oddly or to be ambiguous on purpose. A graze wound is how the press was reporting it, but if the bullet actually pierced in and out through his ear, well, that's not impossible given that everything I'm reading is saying the ammo was .223 Rem / 5.56 NATO which, though technically slightly different in shape, will both fire from an AR-15 style rifle and deliver similar results.

Sus would've been eight shots fired and no one was injured. Sus would've been a rogue Secret Service agents slit Trump's throat after the shots missed and then turned the gun on himself before anyone could stop him and no questions could be asked. Or if it had been a drone, or a long range weapon deployed by Israel, or Hunter Biden, or Sarah Palin, or Michael Cohen, or a fat guy in a Batman suit, or any number of various others people other than Holden Caulfield Crooks over here…

So, it's actually a data point pointing away from some kind of conspiracy if it was some kind of shrapnel. That would be a more logical explanation.
To me that seems much less likely. Calibers like .22 and .223 are frequently used in hunting precisely bc they cause less damage to the valuable meat of the prey. And these aren't hollow-point, of course; they will blow straight through their target. So, to me, it seems more probable that a bullet would've grazed or gone through Trump's ear than it does that a bullet would've missed Trump, struck a teleprompter and sent shrapnel from the destroyed prompter back toward Trump's head and at high velocity such that it wasn't captured on video nor was the destruction of the teleprompter… and then it nicked him. That simply doesn't work. Headshots are difficult. Would've been more effective to hit the body, which is why most law enforcement are trained to shoot the body. Trump got lucky; the shooter, not so much. It's not that hard to believe. I mean, you ever see an NBA game that ends in a game-winning three-pointer at the buzzer? Sure they're not common, but sometimes that shit happens. And it's not a conspiracy; it's the sheer dumb luck of Donald Trump, emphasis on dumb.

That's why I was asking what you were basing your statement on.
Logic, reason, intuition, the evidence that has been reported thus far, and mechanical engineering knowledge from having worked in the aerospace industry ~5 yrs.

Didn't know if you were trained in such things.
No, not like in crime scene forensics or anything, which this falls under in my opinion, but there are overlapping Venn circles with other sciences, let's just say. I'm not claiming to be an expert, which is why I can't say Secret Service should've had that perimeter covered better. Idk the exact protocols they follow and how they differ from, say, guarding the actual sitting President, if they differ at all. I'm not even sure that info should be shared at all or whether it even is, and as far as I can tell, neither does anyone else on this thread – forgive me if I'm mistaken on this. But I do know that the shooter was on a roof that was one and a half football fields away from the then-presumed-Presidential-election-Republican-nominee.

Given how rare assassination attempts are in general, it's not hard to imagine Secret Service did an initial sweep and then asked local police to assist in keeping the close vicinity secure. It looked like, to me, the counter-snipers had their rifles, scopes, and lookouts focusing on an area beyond where the shooter positioned himself. It's also not hard to imagine local po-po's in Bumblefuck, Pennsylvania being a rag tag group of rather dimwitted Sheriff's deputies, out-of-shape donut-hounds, and distractible Barney-Fife-types completely missing the shooter making quick moves up a ladder while they've all edged forward to catch the beginning of the rally while on the clock. No one was expecting it. However, I'll bet the security around Joe Biden right now is tight as a drum, for example, because it's likely Secret Security recognize an increased likelihood of a so-called "revenge attack" or some Biden loyalist feeling provoked to the point of attempting retaliatory violence against the president. It's sad that certain people are already convinced no matter what anyone says or what other evidence comes out that Biden was somehow behind the assassination attempt on Trump. It's like, easy, killer, that could be but probably not and without enough evidence, no sense in making the accusation.

We need the medical report on the wound. I do think that needs to be released.
Agreed, that would be interesting to see, though some ppl already believe it would be doctored. In a sense, doing this discredits genuine critics and whistle-blowers whenever they attempt to point out actual misdeeds, wrongdoings, corruption, etc. that are 100% accurate. It's a shame.

Think Rainman1964 is an AI?
Probably not; I'm not seeing any of the telltale signs of AI, but they're getting really good. The non-sequiturs are typically still grammatically sound, whereas these diatribes have some odd-but-human-seeming syntax errors. There are fairly clear misunderstandings in either facts or underlying logic that I think come from previous opinion formations that—unless being parroted from a particularly anecdotal source—seem legit and human. But it's getting where it's not always very clear. What are your thoughts?
 
It is neither impossible nor outlandishly improbable though. I see it as stronger evidence that it wasn't planned. The shooter was a piss poor shot according to the gun range owner where the shooter had practiced. Checks out. I think the kid just wasn't playing with a 52-card deck, as it were, whatever his motives may have been. Secret Service isn't perfect either. I say this bc: 1. Reagan almost got got, 2. agents are human, and 3. human's are mistake-prone, imperfect apes. Whoop whoop!


Trump says the bullet "pierced his ear" which is vague to me Isconsidering he's known to be inaccurate, to embellish and phrase things oddly or to be ambiguous on purpose. A graze wound is how the press was reporting it, but if the bullet actually pierced in and out through his ear, well, that's not impossible given that everything I'm reading is saying the ammo was .223 Rem / 5.56 NATO which, though technically slightly different in shape, will both fire from an AR-15 style rifle and deliver similar results.

Sus would've been eight shots fired and no one was injured. Sus would've been a rogue Secret Service agents slit Trump's throat after the shots missed and then turned the gun on himself before anyone could stop him and no questions could be asked. Or if it had been a drone, or a long range weapon deployed by Israel, or Hunter Biden, or Sarah Palin, or Michael Cohen, or a fat guy in a Batman suit, or any number of various others people other than Holden Caulfield Crooks over here…


To me that seems much less likely. Calibers like .22 and .223 are frequently used in hunting precisely bc they cause less damage to the valuable meat of the prey. And these aren't hollow-point, of course; they will blow straight through their target. So, to me, it seems more probable that a bullet would've grazed or gone through Trump's ear than it does that a bullet would've missed Trump, struck a teleprompter and sent shrapnel from the destroyed prompter back toward Trump's head and at high velocity such that it wasn't captured on video nor was the destruction of the teleprompter… and then it nicked him. That simply doesn't work. Headshots are difficult. Would've been more effective to hit the body, which is why most law enforcement are trained to shoot the body. Trump got lucky; the shooter, not so much. It's not that hard to believe. I mean, you ever see an NBA game that ends in a game-winning three-pointer at the buzzer? Sure they're not common, but sometimes that shit happens. And it's not a conspiracy; it's the sheer dumb luck of Donald Trump, emphasis on dumb.


Logic, reason, intuition, the evidence that has been reported thus far, and mechanical engineering knowledge from having worked in the aerospace industry ~5 yrs.


No, not like in crime scene forensics or anything, which this falls under in my opinion, but there are overlapping Venn circles with other sciences, let's just say. I'm not claiming to be an expert, which is why I can't say Secret Service should've had that perimeter covered better. Idk the exact protocols they follow and how they differ from, say, guarding the actual sitting President, if they differ at all. I'm not even sure that info should be shared at all or whether it even is, and as far as I can tell, neither does anyone else on this thread – forgive me if I'm mistaken on this. But I do know that the shooter was on a roof that was one and a half football fields away from the then-presumed-Presidential-election-Republican-nominee.

Given how rare assassination attempts are in general, it's not hard to imagine Secret Service did an initial sweep and then asked local police to assist in keeping the close vicinity secure. It looked like, to me, the counter-snipers had their rifles, scopes, and lookouts focusing on an area beyond where the shooter positioned himself. It's also not hard to imagine local po-po's in Bumblefuck, Pennsylvania being a rag tag group of rather dimwitted Sheriff's deputies, out-of-shape donut-hounds, and distractible Barney-Fife-types completely missing the shooter making quick moves up a ladder while they've all edged forward to catch the beginning of the rally while on the clock. No one was expecting it. However, I'll bet the security around Joe Biden right now is tight as a drum, for example, because it's likely Secret Security recognize an increased likelihood of a so-called "revenge attack" or some Biden loyalist feeling provoked to the point of attempting retaliatory violence against the president. It's sad that certain people are already convinced no matter what anyone says or what other evidence comes out that Biden was somehow behind the assassination attempt on Trump. It's like, easy, killer, that could be but probably not and without enough evidence, no sense in making the accusation.


Agreed, that would be interesting to see, though some ppl already believe it would be doctored. In a sense, doing this discredits genuine critics and whistle-blowers whenever they attempt to point out actual misdeeds, wrongdoings, corruption, etc. that are 100% accurate. It's a shame.


Probably not; I'm not seeing any of the telltale signs of AI, but they're getting really good. The non-sequiturs are typically still grammatically sound, whereas these diatribes have some odd-but-human-seeming syntax errors. There are fairly clear misunderstandings in either facts or underlying logic that I think come from previous opinion formations that—unless being parroted from a particularly anecdotal source—seem legit and human. But it's getting where it's not always very clear. What are your thoughts?
I was kidding about him being an AI.
The AR will shoot a .223 or a 5.56 (.218") at about 2,800 ft/s whereas a normal hunting .22, although similar in size, has a muzzle velocity around 1,100 ft/s. That's why an AR causes so much damage.
It could have been a perfect graze. I would love to see the medical report.
 
I still want to know what happened to the bullet. Did it disintegrate upon contact with Trumps massive ego?
Lol, yeah idk, that's probably something investigators are working on and there's no need for them to hurry anything out to the press.

If it was a graze wound then there would be zero to little deflection, so why didn't anyone directly behind him get shot?
Idk, I'm sure there's a plausible explanation. Just off the top of my head, it could've been something like his first shot was the closest, but due to his inexperience, the recoil threw off his aim with each progressive shot until the last four rounds wound up in the field somewhere a several hundred yards away, or something like that.

I read this thing that really detailed the Columbine shooting, and one thing that really struck me was that one of the shooters was chasing down this girl who was trying to hide under the tables in the library. And the shooter saw where see was going so he popped under the desk to surprise her and said "gotcha" as he fired into her face at point blank range with a shotgun. Underscoring the inexperience of the shooter was the fact that the recoil from the shotgun kicked back and slammed the gun into his face, busting his front teeth and bloodying him badly. This happened early on in the shooting, and some have theorized it was a point of no return to the shooters who didn't let the injury stop the rampage.

I was also reading at how shocked the gorilla expert Jane Goodall was when she witnessed the chimpanzee war of 1974-1978. She was shocked at the cruel violence these otherwise peaceful and loving chimps were capable of, and how it made her question whether the apes were human-like in engaging in warfare or if humans are animals in being violent to one another. Perhaps it's both.

Where can I get one of those trendy ear gauzes that all of the retarded right are wearing these days?
There's definitely something larger than life about Donald Trump. I'm glad he wasn't shot to death, but I do wish he and Biden would both retire already. Some fresh faces in politics wouldn't be so bad.

And you know, wasn't it 2021 or 2022 that Shinzo Abe, then-PM of Japan, was assassinated? These things do happen, ya know?
 
TL;DR ☞ This is a response to the lengthy comment left by @Rainman1964. There was a lot to respond to, and I felt like addressing all of it. I'm tired of rewriting this and I've been trying to whittle it down, but after two revisions I'm just gonna post it. The gist of it is: unless you're familiar with Secret Service firsthand, chances are you have no idea how they actually work & function, and there are valid security reasons for this. There's not enough footage and piecing together the exact timeline of events isn't going to be easy for anyone to do when they're not working with all the data. None of us are privy to those details.

And finally, I can't believe how many ppl are not aware of what a graze wound is. Trump wasn't shot directly in the ear, and yes, that would've probably blown his ear off. He was grazed by as bullet that whizzed by his ear and ever so slightly brushed along the skin as it (mostly) missed hitting him. You can get grazed by a bullet anywhere along your frame; the main thing is that it just barely makes contact with the skin as it goes by. It was a very close call and, no bullshit, Trump got lucky. We don't like to believe in luck or 1-in-a-million shots, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It happened. That 20-yr-old nearly murdered Donald Trump. That's what's fucking crazy.


Then you're not looking hard enough at all. There are a multitude of reasons people hate Trump. Him being a terrible and embarassing statesman among foreign diplomats and world leaders is only one factor. Some ppl hate him for the "grab women by the pussy" comments. Others hate him for being a xenophobic racist who likes to insist he's not. Then there's hating him for inciting the Jan 6th riots. There's hating him for polarizing our nation and being in the pocket of Vladimir Putin. There's hating him for obnoxiously insisting Obama was not a U.S. Citizen. There's hating him for mishandling COVID-19 and for taking a wrecking ball to the Republican party. There's hating him for the lack of aide given to Puerto Rico after they were slammed by a hurricane.

Mind you, I'm not saying I agree with any of these, nor am I saying I hate Trump. He's done some good along with some bad. I like the criminal reform bill in the federal system his administration introduced and had signed into law. I like his emphasis on border control, which absolutely needs to be addressed. But it's shortsighted to think he's only ever criticized for not being a polished diplomat and statesman. I do however think that his business acumen is questionable, but his mastery of social media is unparalleled by any major U.S. politician so far.


Really? I can't stand Hillary Clinton. She's insufferable and a sworn enemy of your boy, Trump.


Right, that's the problem with our system. People vote against the candidate they hate, not for one they like. And both sides fervently blames the other for it. The left and the right are equally stupid as fuck.


Weird logic. He reflects poorly on the nation that I am from, because he's lazy, sloppy, overweight, rude, and lacking in grace, manners, refinement, style, respect for women, and any sense of decorum, despite purportedly being a multi-billionaire. Idk if you ever travel abroad much, but Trump is not a very popular character internationally. Don't get me wrong: we all know Biden is too old, but he's not the laughing stock level of buffoon Donald Trump is on the international stage.


Conspiracy theorists and opinion piece pundits masquerading as journalists do not make someone enlightened. It's foolish to look down at "mainstream everyday citizens" based on this confusion.


The order of that is off. It went Reagan → Bush (elder) → Clinton → Bush (younger). You voted for Bill Clinton both times?


That was Bill Clinton, not Al Gore. What did Monica Lewinsky have to do with Al Gore? I suspect you're getting your facts mixed up with fiction, and Idk what you're on about. And you condemn Clinton whom you've mistaken as Al Gore, but you let Trump off the hook for having an affair and then lying about it. You see no problem here?


I thought you wanted Hillary Clinton to win?


Women are not trophies or prizes to be "got", just as a reminder. And success is no excuse to be an amoral classless asshole. Are you defending this behavior? And you're a woman? Also, I'm not a fan of his rhetoric in which he's talked about strategically bombing suspected Mexican cartel labs, without Mexico's consent, in order to disrupt the flow of fentanyl into the country. I'm worried about him removing term limits and attempting to establish a dictatorship he can try to pass down to his idiotic offspring…


Oh I know. One was found to be fraudulent, that Trump University scam.


Firstly, having no fear is not the same thing as courage, which is acting in spite of fear. Having no fear is foolish and dangerous and not something to praise. Secondly, it doesn't take balls so much as a multi-millionaire slumlord daddy to loan you your seed money. Nothing against that, but let's not act like he doesn't come from a place of extreme privilege and has never lived a life remotely close to what the majority of American lives are like. Not to knock it, no one chooses the family they're born into, and everyone has their own trials and tribulations. Every family is dysfunctional if you look closely enough. Let's just not defend criminal idiocy or pretend Trump is entirely self-made.


He is the eternal arrogance. Like I was saying: his daddy was rich before him, made his millions as a mid-century NYC slumlord. There's no questioning that Donald Trump's life is a successful one from virtual any perspective though. I've known about the man since I was like 4 or 5 yrs old and he was on WWF/WWE next to Vince McMahon. Later he was on The Apprentice with that same ridiculously bad hair saying "you're fired," like the stereotype of a pompous, prick son of the big boss, and everyone hates them both. He ran for president once before 2016 and was doing it again as a publicity stunt to help promote a book he had just published. The rest is history, and further underscores both the tremendous amount of luck he has had, and his ability to tap into a certain rebellious impulse in the American public against all odds.


🤮 Give me a break. Eric and Don Jr.? Lol. And yes, Hunter Biden is a criminal fuck-up, but if we're using that degenerate jackass as a standard, we're not aiming very high. I'm not endorsing Biden, and I don't like playing us-versus-them, tit-for-tat politics. WhoTF cares? Trump is not a defensible candidate for any political party. He's a divisive asshole elitist megalomaniac with a penchant for being accidentally entertaining. The lowbrow irreverence and tacky-ass persona with the bad hair job, washed-up porn-star hush money, Bible salesman side hustler, and overall stench of Atlantic City seediness with a dash of Florida racism appeals to Americans who resent what they see as the bleeding-heart, liberal, Jewish-run, Black-favoring Ivy League "elites" who run D.C. and Hollywood… This is stupid thinking, and moreover, unnecessary and inaccurate. Besides, don't get me started on Henry Kissinger, or for that matter, Paul Wolfowitz. It's not a good look stereotyping all Jews, Blacks, and any progressive leaning liberal with an expensive education. Elitism takes all forms, on the Left and the Right. Wake up and smell the proletariat oppression, my friend.


What are you talking about? How would Trump get impeached for questioning Biden's remarks on Ukraine and what is your source for this?


1. You're stereotyping everyone who is liberal when you do this. And you're also failing to delineate between fiscal liberalism/conservatism and social liberalism/conservatism. This is unfair, inaccurate, and lazy.
2. "Hate" seems so extreme right here, especially considering point #1 above. And like I was saying, the U.S. voting system makes it so we vote against the party we hate rather than for a party we love.


Most of them with little to no experience in Washington, just loyalists hoping for appointments and exploits. Opportunists and sycophants surround him once more.


All of Congress take advantage of their position and so do judges, are you joking right now thinking it's only on the left? Pelosi isn't even in politics any longer. She's an old, old woman, why is anyone even discussing her since she's retired? It's weird the fixations people get with certain politicians… The fascist bullshit is equally never ending.


What like Russian influence on Donald Trump? Saudi influence on both Bush Presidents? GOP pundits sure like to hurl stones considering how much of a glass House they have in Congress. Should we talk about George Santos? Or how about the corruption of Chief Justice Clarence Thomas, nvm all the other allegations?


I do. We need tighter, smarter border regulation that we enforce, like virtually every other developed nation does. For a long time, the U.S. has enjoyed a geopolitical landlock with an ocean on either side of her. But now times are different. Technology, in particular the mass proliferation of smart phones and the ubiquitousness of cellular connectivity, broadband internet speeds, and social media have created a situation where knowledge of grifts in the system is disseminated at unseen speeds now.


Under George W. Bush. You're not making any sense right now, and this has nothing to do with the current immigration crisis.


You've traipsed into 9-11 conspiracy theories now; it is not helping you make a clear point, especially when you keep citing "corruptness" that occurred during a Republican Presidency that was barely won on the strength of a recount in a state where the Republican nominee, George W. Bush's own brother, Jeb Bush, happened to be the Governor of the state. The Patriot Act and the way 9-11 was used to get public approval to invade Afghanistan and Iraq which ultimately destabilized the middle east and directly lead to the formation of ISIS. W., Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz can be blamed for that FUBAR'd calamity.


I'm sure they keep an eye on him, but he uncovered the crimes of an enemy state of the Kremlin at great personal risk. The enemy of one's enemy is one's friend, as they say. So, yeah, it's not surprising they granted him asylum. None of this is any kind of proof he was a Russian spy, but that's the conspiracy theorists' favorite angle, without any proof, just a cocksure overconfidence that they perfectly understand the nuances and intricacies of foreign diplomacy, despite lacking knowledge and experience on the subject. It's unreal.


That doesn't make any sense. No one asked to be born; no one is here on purpose. We want to attach meaning to things, because finding meaning in life feels important and satisfying, but the Illuminati are an illusion of our own design. Life meaning is whatever we want to make of it. I'm not going to blame a phantom nemesis for the fact that finding meaning in life is often vexing, at times an exercise in futility, but worth the pursuit nonetheless. There's a thrill of pursuing happiness and attempting to help those around us while we figure out how to prevent our innate instincts for rage, vengeance, war, wrath, and us-versus-them thinking from taking over and destroying ourselves. It's imperative that we understand Liberals and Conservatives are both trying to make the world a better place for humans to live in, and sometimes they fuck up along the way. We are flawed and prone to making mistakes, but we're also capable of great redemption and the strongest form of love possible: forgiveness.


I agree with all of this.


Umm, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are not people of Integrity and neither is Donald Trump who still won't admit publicly to having had an affair with a porn star and then trying to pay hush money to cover it up with campaign finances through a proxy he later kicked under the federal indictment bus (Michael Cohen).


No it isn't. Which amendment in the constitution is it breaking?


The court sets precedents though, because our judicial system is based on two things: 1. the U.S. Constitution including the Bill of Rights and all subsequent amendments and laws, and 2. case law which interprets the aforementioned Bills and amendments with the higher courts superseding the lower courts' rulings/findings, the Supreme Court being the highest. These are the strategic moves of a far-right, religious lobby who seek to roll back civil right's advances, many of which impact women's rights and urban communities. I consider religious fundamentalism to be a dangerous thing, particularly when coupled with fervent nationalism, propaganda-fueled revenge-lust and heaping helpings of numerous confirmation biases.


What's your logic there? Healthcare is federal, and it's dangerous and stupid to have a patchwork of laws that changes from state to state depending on how conservative and religious the elected legislature is..


Why not? This is a matter of public health and safety, which is typically been the domain of the federal gov. like every other country in the world. Government exists to serve the people. It's in the best interests of both to have the healthiest citizens it can who share a good, common sense of morale, and who are, moreover, well educated. It benefits all of us to be healthy and educated, which is why support for better public education is very crucial, and it's gonna take some tax dollars, but healthcare and education are two good programs worthy of public investment and not left to the profit-incentive.


And yet you support Donald "I grab women by the pussy" Trump who illegally uses campaign funds to pay for sex? Or more accurately, he paid hush money to a sex worker to be quiet about his marital infidelity with her, and this is your candidate? What were you saying about Bill Clinton earlier and lying about Monica Lewinsky? Yet you're okay with Donald Trump's sexual infidelities and refusal still to admit to them… And do we even need to mention the heartlessly sociopathic way he paid this hush money with campaign funds through his bozo attorney lackey, Michael Cohen, who is subsequently disbarred and sent to federal prison for the crime. This is your guy though, huh?


That's not accurate. Can you name a female author prior to the 1800s, for example? And how many can we name from the 1800s and the first half of the 1900s? Not too many. Is it a coincidence that women's lib hit at the same time medicinal birth control became widely available?

Did you know Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart had a sister who was equally as gifted a musician? Leopold used to take them around Europe together to have them perform for the entertainment of royalty such was their precocious talent. But few people have heard of Kate Mozart because: female. #wompwomp "Make babies, wench, how dare you have ambitions of your own? Shun your natural instincts!" Women still face oppression globally, not to mention discrimination, objectification, and all the bullshit that people like Trump have saddled women with their whole lives. And women still support him. It's mind-blowing.


Oh yeah right, like Trump had zero allies. GTFO of here with that bullshit sob story, like he was some underdog that people disliked for no reason, nothing to do with his politics, shitty foreign diplomacy and vague racism hidden behind dogwhistles like "MAGA". We managed to let him fly on autopilot while we all nervously laughed at how ridiculous sounding he was each day in office. The stock market did well as many of us rode the bubble's rising tides, knowing he would be friendly tax breaks for business owners, but what goes up must come down, and things really tanked with COVID-19 while Trump's lack of experience and public office leadership became evident. And the people, true to form, voted against Trump in 2020, even though the other candidate was not a strong choice.


The rambling of the obfuscatory is flagrant.


WTF are you talking about? Your guy is a convicted felon, Bible salesman, who has been sued for millions of dollars in a libel case and sued for the con artistry that was Trump University… He has zero loyalty and will kick anyone under the bus to save himself, like look at how many people around him wound up in federal prison and/or under investigation. And then there's that creepy ass son-in-law he has, Jared Kushner, that hovers around him like a weird, power hungry crypt-keeper who secretly idolizes Heinrich Himmler and Joseph Goebbels.


If you're not going to base your theories on serious, provable, evidence-based facts and always believe whatever conspiracy theories most conveniently fit your political opinions, then what's the point of discussing any of this?


It's amazing how you can see things that way, bending the truth and omitting critical and damning details while you defend the misogynist behavior and polarizing negativity of Donald Trump, a man who turned against his own Vice President and shows no capacity to be humble. Also, judges aren't the ones pressing charges; it's prosecutors. You need to understand the system a little better before slinging these arguments around like this. I doubt many people are reading this, so it's probably just you and me right now, so to speak, and I'm urging you to please reconsider your endorsement, and rethink this indictment of a supposed system that just has it out for Trump. He's blatantly breaking laws and abusing his power through judicial appointments who are ruling in his favor and against the better interests of the public due to political quid pro quo. His judicial appointments are the ones under fire for conflict of interest. Prosecutorial discretion is a matter of ethics, and I too suspect the political motivations for strategic criminal charging and scheduling of court dates to disrupt campaign efforts is shitty politics, and though it's not justification, I'll just remind you that Trump plays equally dirty. Both sides wish they could rig elections, but it's just not that easy.


Yeah and there were Jews who voted for Hitler claiming they thought his antisemitic talk was just rhetoric to stir the people up. Whoops. Not that I'm comparing Trump to Hitler, but you know how you can't even joke about killing the president or taking a bomb on a plane, things like that? Yeah I don't think I like hearing a president or presidential nominee to engage in the reverse form of not-funny humor.


A trait everyone wants in their elected leader…


Wow, you are in love w/some Donald J. Trump and you have lapped up the Kool-Aid and can't help but spout out us-versus-them myths and combative accusations that lack evidence and reason.


We looked like buffoons when we elected a reality TV laughing stock who personified a bad caricature of a typical asshole boss who says inappropriate stuff frequently amid cringe worthy self-congratulating psychobabble. But honestly, you should look into the actual facts and accomplishments of the Biden administration.


You're making a straw man argument now. Also, one can be a conservative without approving of Trump's self-serving version of the Republican Nationalist New World Order.


Oh I agree: it was definitely a legit assassination attempt. And there's nothing wrong or moronic to consider whether it was staged. I think it's foolish to conclude that it was staged based on some loose facts and quick assumptions, and there are too many logical issues this creates. Applying Occam's razor it becomes clear he was attacked in earnest by a disturbed young man hungry for political violence for reasons not fully understood yet highly politicized.
I knew someone would resurrect that dreadful red post
 
Thank you for your thoughts underlacosa. Of course i know what a graze wound or being "knicked" is. My feelings are similar to your's regarding snopes .223/.556 ammo variant etc. It is possible for sure.

I want the bloody slug since it sounds like were talking hardball/FMJ.
 
I still want to know what happened to the bullet. Did it disintegrate upon contact with Trumps massive ego?

If it was a graze wound then there would be zero to little deflection, so why didn't anyone directly behind him get shot?

Where can I get one of those trendy ear gauzes that all of the retarded right are wearing these days?

So many questions...

Me and you my man. WE WANT THE BLOODY BULLET WITH DNA TRACEABLE BACK TO DUDES AR. Than I will still think its a conspiracy that I haven't figured out yet hahahah. What im suppose to lie.
 
He's protected by 5G

The tech the military has is insanity and deserving of its own thread. Didn't get alot of participants in the "assassination conspiracy" thread I opened so I'll save it for now until people calm down.

Def threadworthy though. Targ3ted individu@ls G@ng st@lking; real or delusional somewhat applicable. I suppose you know what I think based on the fact I dont type those two words in than press return. lol.
 
The SS wasn't in charge of that area, it was outside their perimeter and handled by local cops

To play devils advocate I have always said if you have a rifle, the skill, finances, time, determination.... I dont think there is a person safe it this world.
*EDIT* I REALLY wouldn't know though i haven't spent much time around old money.
 
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