Chronic pain and meth

[rentedbythehour]

I am new here so I'm not sure I'm posting in the correct place. I have suffered with migraines for 37 years. The older I get, the worse they get. I've had chronic migraines for the last 10 years and have been on disability because I'm unable to work. I started using meth roughly 7 years ago. I've had around 2 years of sobriety during that time. I've found that when I use meth (smoke) I do not get as many migraines. My medication is essentially untouched. I'm wondering if anyone else has a similar experience. I also have fibromyalgia and sleep issues. Meth helps me function on a day to day basis. I spent over a year in bed because of my health issues and depression. I feel like I'm able to be productive when I'm on meth. I don't necessarily feel high, just normal. Anyone else feel this way?

 

[Wolf Cola]

I think some migraines stem from diet. Not like a bad diet just not what your ancestors were used to eating. Hopefully A.I. can find better drugs actually suitable for daily use. Smoking meth was the biggest rush I ever had. I'll definitely dabble later in life, be careful!

 

[rentedbythehour]

I think some migraines stem from diet. Not like a bad diet just not what your ancestors were used to eating. Hopefully A.I. can find better drugs actually suitable for daily use. Smoking meth was the biggest rush I ever had. I'll definitely dabble later in life, be careful!

Diet is definitely something that can trigger migraines. So is sleep routines, stress, weather patterns, colds, allergies, strong smells like perfume or cigarette smoke, exercise, elevated blood pressure, etc. All of these can affect my headaches. I know there have been studies done on the use of stimulants for chronic pain but it doesn't seem to be practiced. If they actually found out what caused migraines, how to effectively treat them, and keep the pain at bay, I doubt I would smoke meth.

 

[Wolf Cola]

I thought psychedelic serotonin agonists like lsd and shrooms treated migraines for like 3 months from 1 trip. Might only work for cluster headaches though not sure.

 

[negrogesic]

Methamphetamine induces vasoconstriction, and such properties have been leveraged in migraine meds like ergotamine.

There's also evidence amphetamine works to the effect, as a prophylactic;

Dextroamphetamine pilot crossover trials and n of 1 trials in patients with chronic tension-type and migraine headache - PubMed

Dextroamphetamine had real preventive effects on chronic tension-type and migraine headaches in some subjects. These results should encourage other investigators to study its effects on these headaches.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So thats very likely why you notice less migraines when you take meth. Amphetamines also have analgesic properties, to a fair degree

 

[rentedbythehour]

I thought psychedelic serotonin agonists like lsd and shrooms treated migraines for like 3 months from 1 trip. Might only work for cluster headaches though not sure.

I've never heard that before. I pretty much get daily migraines except when I'm smoking meth. I can't explain it. The only other time I'm my life, since I was 11 that I didn't get them was when I was pregnant with my kids. I thought about trying to get a prescription for desoxyn (medical methamphetamine) to see if that would have the same effect but I think it would be really really hard to get.

 

[rentedbythehour]

Methamphetamine induces vasoconstriction, and such properties have been leveraged in migraine meds like ergotamine.

There's also evidence amphetamine works to the effect, as a prophylactic;

Dextroamphetamine pilot crossover trials and n of 1 trials in patients with chronic tension-type and migraine headache - PubMed

Dextroamphetamine had real preventive effects on chronic tension-type and migraine headaches in some subjects. These results should encourage other investigators to study its effects on these headaches.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So thats very likely why you notice less migraines when you take meth. Amphetamines also have analgesic properties, to a fair degree

This is very interesting. Thank you for posting that. I use the triptans for the most part in treating my migraines. It's the only meds that have actually worked to get rid of them. They are also vasoconstrictors.

 

[SteeleyJ]

Meth definitely works as an analgesic....especially in high doses.

 

[rentedbythehour]

Methamphetamine induces vasoconstriction, and such properties have been leveraged in migraine meds like ergotamine.

There's also evidence amphetamine works to the effect, as a prophylactic;

Dextroamphetamine pilot crossover trials and n of 1 trials in patients with chronic tension-type and migraine headache - PubMed

Dextroamphetamine had real preventive effects on chronic tension-type and migraine headaches in some subjects. These results should encourage other investigators to study its effects on these headaches.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So thats very likely why you notice less migraines when you take meth. Amphetamines also have analgesic properties, to a fair degree

I just took a more thorough look at this article. What I find interesting is that it was written in 2004. Instead of moving forward with what they found was an effective treatment option, they went a different direction. I'm going to look more into this and see if there's anything on the horizon.

 

[negrogesic]

I just took a more thorough look at this article. What I find interesting is that it was written in 2004. Instead of moving forward with what they found was an effective treatment option, they went a different direction. I'm going to look more into this and see if there's anything on the horizon.

Well despite what they found, there isn't much to build on, and no doctor is going to start prescribing dextroamphetamine to treat migranes.

However a neurologist might come across that article and feel intrigued enough to try it on a treatment resistant chronic migraine patient who they suspect might have ADHD, then make the ADHD diagnosis and write the script.

But thats about all the effect the article might make.

Also, if you're used to smoking meth, desoxyn will feel very weak (I had a desoxyn prescription for a short period of time, not a fan, switch back to adderall). Plus almost no doctor will prescribe, and if they do, good luck getting it covered by insurance company. My insurance refused to cover it, so I was paying over $400 a month. Partially why i switched back adderall.

 

[rentedbythehour]

I moved here about a year ago. I was actually going to email this to my old neurologist. I think he would have been open to it. My neurologist before him got to the point where he didn't know what to do with me. I've done just about everything you can imagine, short of getting a nerve stimulation device implanted. When I worked in the operating room, I remember seeing patients that had those that were still on more meds than me. I didn't think it was worth it.