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How many people do you know who killed themselves during the Covid hoax during 2020?

Damn, I must have received the placebo (Moderna, 1st shot + 2 boosters).

I've never felt better in my life.

(edit) Come to think of it, everyone I know who got the jabs are doing well too. Maybe Chattanooga got a dud batch.
Than you must be the other side of the coin. I never got any jabs, but the ones I know who did are dead or sick except 1 who was sick with cancer and make a comeback. Thats about 20 people that would talk about it. And since were talking about it maybe the nano tech agreed with you and at some point they will use the 5G frequency to induce mind control. I hope not!
 
Damn, I must have received the placebo (Moderna, 1st shot + 2 boosters).

I've never felt better in my life.

(edit) Come to think of it, everyone I know who got the jabs are doing well too. Maybe Chattanooga got a dud batch.

Maybe Chattanooga got a dud batch? It's entirely possible. Likewise your set of friends might coincidentally or directionally have an advanced ability to process mercury. Or perhaps you don't have very many friends.

Another possibility is that a man who was convinced somehow not only that he needed a surprise vaccine but also two boosters in a two year period isn't being honest with Bluelight or himself.

Thanks for your participation.
 
edit) Come to think of it, everyone I know who got the jabs are doing well too. Maybe Chattanooga got a dud batch.
I have one person in my extended family who got shingles immediately after the jab, and a friends father who developed some problem with the sight in one of his eyes (nerve related) shortly after the jab.

There's just too much data out there now to say these jabs are 'safe and effective', they're clearly not. Now whether it's all the jabs, particular manufacturer versions, certain batches, failure to administer correctly, or a combination of any of those.. we'll probably never know.

All I know is I took 0 jabs and somehow completely dodged a highly contagious novel respiratory pathogen, despite being in contact with people. Apparently I'm some sort of miracle worker, or the Devil, because I should have caught something at least once in over 3 years by all the logic of the MSM narrative.
 
Another possibility is that a man who was convinced somehow not only that he needed a surprise vaccine but also two boosters in a two year period isn't being honest with Bluelight or himself.
Being over 60 and a lifelong smoker, I followed the advice of the CDC.

As far as your suggestion that I might be lying-- well, you can fuck right off. I've never been dishonest on Bluelight and I'm rarely dishonest IRL. I only lie to police officers.
 
^ indeed.

is it possible that some of our anti-vax (for want of a better term) brethren are not being entirely honest with bluelight or themselves when they say 8 siblings, their parents and all 4 grandparents, their partner, all their partner's coworkers, all their partner's coworkers' tennis partners and all their partner's coworkers' tennis partners' dog walkers died within 45 seconds of taking the vaccine?

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alasdair
 
It's almost like there are a ton of anecdotal examples of people who are both fine and not fine, who either had zero vaxx or 3+ vaxx.

My point is not to say that that are not people who were negatively impacted by it, or perhaps even died, just to say that the 'me and everyone I know" examples aren't necessarily good for extrapolation. On either side.
 
The amount of football/soccer players who suddenly starting collapsing on the pitch during the 2021+ period is not anecdotal. It happened. You can dismiss the anecdotes if you wish, but players collapsing in football used to be a massive deal because it was very rare. Football is a very cardio heavy game, and the players are very healthy.

So when you see a spike of activity that just happens to coincide with the vaccination program that was suspected (and now known) to cause myocarditis.. that's not anecdotal anymore, that's reality.

What's fascinating is people will look at the TV and accept images of body-bags and coffins being presented as truth of a mass casualty event, without actually being able to verify any of it as truth, but then when real live people start dropping on football pitches that's just a coincidence. Textbook definition of delusion.
 
players collapsing is not anecdotal. totally agree.

a spike of activity that's correlated with vaccination is also reality. again i agree.

but then we differ.

do i think it's possible that the vaccine caused the deaths? sure. but i do not know.

you don't know either but you've convinced yourself they died because of the vaccine. you are assuming causation because of correlation. given the general tone of mistrust and need for skepticism in this forum, it's not a little ironic. indeed, the irony of your last paragraph must be totally lost on you.

there was a period in this forum where people would post a news article about somebody dying in the covid thread, with no comment - their clear implication that the death was due to the vaccine, even when the cause of death had yet to be established. one example: ‘Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies

it boils down to "i don't know therefore i don't know" versus "i don't know therefore i'll just assume i'm right".

alasdair
 
The amount of football/soccer players who suddenly starting collapsing on the pitch during the 2021+ period is not anecdotal. It happened. You can dismiss the anecdotes if you wish, but players collapsing in football used to be a massive deal because it was very rare. Football is a very cardio heavy game, and the players are very healthy.

So when you see a spike of activity that just happens to coincide with the vaccination program that was suspected (and now known) to cause myocarditis.. that's not anecdotal anymore, that's reality.

What's fascinating is people will look at the TV and accept images of body-bags and coffins being presented as truth of a mass casualty event, without actually being able to verify any of it as truth, but then when real live people start dropping on football pitches that's just a coincidence. Textbook definition of delusion.
I love how so many people think they are rebellious, but parrot the media and government. They are good little puppets and wow do they love big intrusive government telling them what to do. Even though they claim all sorts of shit about the government and big Pharma, but once those lefties are given their orders. They are in lock step.
Corporations are evil they say and the government is corrupt. The first part depends and the second part is true. But these sheep will do as they are told and side with the same people they blame for so many of societies problems.
The almost funny part is, they can be totally hypocritical and when called on it; the bullshit that comes out of them is like listening to a spokesman for the government and big corporations combined. They are delusional, and lying is a way of life for them.
 
do i think it's possible that the vaccine caused the deaths? sure. but i do not know.

you don't know either but you've convinced yourself they died because of the vaccine. you are assuming causation because of correlation.
It's a matter of mortality statistics. We can debate PCR testing methodology etc till the cows come home, but deaths are deaths.. you can't obfuscate the total number of deaths. You're either alive or dead, it's as binary as possible to be and not so easily faked. Unless you're the Gaza Health Ministry, perhaps.

Excess mortality is still higher now than before the pandemic, even though there is nothing happening. This is in the UK, USA, Europe, basically everywhere that has participated in the vaccination program. This means more people are dying than the statistical average for previous periods.

What is your explanation for this? You can't dismiss it. If people are dying in greater numbers than the expected average, and persistently so, then there has to be a reason for that. Something is driving the excess mortality. And if there isn't a health emergency, then what do you propose is the cause?

I'm assuming a correlation between the excess death and vaccinations, because of three reasons:
1. It coincides with the rollout of an worldwide experimental medical product that the majority of the worlds population has taken.
2. No other hypothesis has even been presented to account for such a persistent, almost global excess mortality.
3. Our governments continue to refuse to even discuss the matter - a continued, persistent, excess mortality is definitely a cause for concern, and any rational moral government should be keenly interested and investigating why people are dying. After all, our safety is supposed to be a top priority of government. Right?

Point 3 is the biggest red flag of all. Point 1 is significant enough in conjunction with point 2, but point 3.. the silence is deafening.

So, what is your explanation for the persistent excess mortality, seen across the globe? You can fall back on 'correlation does not equal causation', but I think you know if you're being honest that is a complete cop out in light of the 3 points above.
 
There is a long list of reasons people kill themselves. Monetary troubles is big one of them.
Hmm, did anybody lose their business that they worked hard for? Did people suffer economically from all the government forced lock downs?
 
1. it coincides. which happens to be the root of coincidence which means that they happened at the same time.

2. that no other hypothesis has been presented does not mean that no other reason exists.

3. i agree the government response is questionable.

i am quite happy to admit that i don't know. you have already convinced yourself that you are right and, it seems, won't - or don't want' to - be swayed. i'm happy to move on.

i'll leave you with this:

correlation01.png


lesson: don't eat more margarine if you want your friends in maine to remain married!

:)

alasdair
 
1. it coincides. which happens to be the root of coincidence which means that they happened at the same time.

2. that no other hypothesis has been presented does not mean that no other reason exists.

3. i agree the government response is questionable.

i am quite happy to admit that i don't know. you have already convinced yourself that you are right and, it seems, won't - or don't want' to - be swayed. i'm happy to move on.

i'll leave you with this:

correlation01.png


lesson: don't eat more margarine if you want your friends in maine to remain married!

:)

alasdair
If I had not been a fuckin drunk in college, I might be married. If I had a wife who cooked with margarine, I would be divorced.
 
1. it coincides. which happens to be the root of coincidence which means that they happened at the same time.

2. that no other hypothesis has been presented does not mean that no other reason exists.

3. i agree the government response is questionable.

i am quite happy to admit that i don't know. you have already convinced yourself that you are right and, it seems, won't - or don't want' to - be swayed
Hang on, I never said I wasn't open to another hypothesis. But in the absence of any alternative hypothesis, what is the logical position here - you at least admit the government response is questionable;

I'd rather be wrong. I'd rather demand a thorough investigation to get to the bottom of things, and if an alternative hypothesis or critical information is revealed during that pursuit and is more credible, then fine I'll admit I was wrong if it comes to it.

But the fact is people are dying in numbers above the average, persistently, across the world, and in greater numbers than before the pandemic. What is the more logical position here? To just deny this is happening, bury our heads in the sand, and default to 'correlation doesn't equal causation'? We're talking about people here, who gives a fuck if it turns out I or others are wrong in the long run? The point is surely we have to investigate and get to the bottom of it.

The fact that the government won't even entertain discussion about this is massive. I'm glad you at least recognise that. What that means precisely is open to speculation, but it certainly does not bode well, and I certainly would be nervous if I had taken one of the jabs at this point.
 
it boils down to "i don't know therefore i don't know" versus "i don't know therefore i'll just assume i'm right".
Neil deGrasse Tyson has often said the same thing about the assumption that an unidentified flying object (or an unidentified anomalous phenomenon) must be an alien spacecraft: "I don't know what it is, therefore I know what it is."

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