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we dont have 2 mass shootings a day down under
All false flags for the most part. These mass shootings are orchestrated by the government for a gun grab at some point like down under and the shootings that caused the gun buyback program in the 90's I believe. Than once the citizens were disarmed they boated in the Muslim and Sudanese gangs and gave them money and positions of authority like cops. Stores would get robbed and no way to protect yourself. The cops would be called and after waiting hours a Sudan gang member who is now a cop would show up and nothing would happen. This is what I heard from a few folks living down there.we dont have 2 mass shootings a day down under
Who needs guns when there are knives, right?we dont have 2 mass shootings a day down under
SYDNEY, April 16 (Reuters) - Two stabbing attacks in Sydney which killed six people and injured shoppers and a Assyrian bishop during his service have shocked Australians and sparked calls for greater public security despite some of the world's toughest gun laws.
The deadly attack at a busy Westfield shopping mall in affluent Bondi Junction last Saturday has shone a spotlight on longstanding complaints from the country's 155,000 security guards who say they are so poorly equipped, they are disincentivised to act.
One of the dead was a security guard, on his first shift at the mall, who intervened.
"At least the cleaner's got a broom, but a security guard won't be carrying anything except a radio," said Ben Reis, a casual security guard from Newcastle, in a phone interview.
"I've been in a shopping centre and I've caught people stealing and I can't do anything, I can just watch them walk," he added.
The attacks have also lifted the lid on growing public unease about non-gun violence that drove the state government of New South Wales, of which Sydney is the capital, to double prison terms for public knife crimes months earlier.
New South Wales Premier Chris Minns has said it would be "irresponsible not to look at" toughening knife laws further, although he didn't specify how. He said the state would review whether security guards could carry handcuffs, pepper spray or batons although he ruled out guns or tasers.
Roland Springis, a security guard who has worked in malls, has collected more than 3,000 signatures in three days for a Change.org petition calling for more protective equipment.
"We don't have anything," said Springis.
Queensland state Premier Steven Miles said the Bondi attack added weight to the argument to extend warrantless stop-and-searches by police, local media reported.
A new law in that state lets police use hand-held metal detectors, or wands, to search people on public transport for suspected weapons and "we've been actively considering whether to expand the public spaces that police can wand in to include shopping centres", Miles said.
As part of the Bondi Junction mall reopening on Friday, all 37 Westfield shopping centres nationally will have an increased security presence, local media reported, citing the operator of the chain's Australian malls, Scentre (SCG.AX)
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"Everyone is saying it could have been them, it could have been any of us," said Mala Webber, who runs a digital marketing business down the road from the Bondi mall and was on her way to pay respects at a rememberance ceremony at the mall on Thursday, although she was not ready to go inside.
"People are definitely a bit more uneasy," added Webber, who cancelled a family trip to the mall on the day of the attack because of a sick child.
TOUGH GUN LAWS
Political leaders and policy experts pointed to the stabbings as reminders about how much worse a public attack could be if it was easier for the perpetrator to get a gun.
Australia introduced tough new gun laws in 1996 after the "Port Arthur Massacre", the country's deadliest mass shooting, when a lone man with no police record used military-style weapons to shoot dead 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison in Tasmania.
Australia banned all semi-automatic rifles and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns. Some 650,000 unlicensed firearms were surrendered under a gun amnesty programme, and licensed gun owners are now required to take a safety course.
Since then, total gun homicides in the country have halved while the overall number of homicides has flatlined, according to Australian Institute of Criminology data, even as the population has increased 50%.
Australia now has less than one-third the number of annual homicides per capita in the United States.
But the proportion of homicides caused by a knife or other sharp implement has risen to 43% in the five years to 2021, the latest year data is available, from 34% in the five years before the 1996 laws, according to institute data shared with Reuters.
On Saturday, during busy afternoon shopping at Westfield Bondi Junction, a mentally ill 40-year-old man with a knife killed six people before being shot dead by police.
On Monday, a teenage boy stormed an Assyrian Christian church service in the city's outer suburbs and was arrested for stabbing a priest mid-sermon and several bystanders. All victims survived the attack which the authorities said was terrorism motivated by suspected religious extremism.
"If the crimes committed over the past days had been committed with easily accessible high powered firearms, there is no doubt the number of victims would be far greater," said Justin Wong, principal lawyer at Streeton Lawyers, a criminal lawfirm.
A bishop and a priest were stabbed in an alleged “terrorist act” at a Sydney church that sparked a riot on Monday, police said, just two days after the Australian city was rocked by a mass stabbing in a busy shopping mall.
Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel was presiding over a service that was being livestreamed at Christ The Good Shepherd Church in the western suburb of Wakeley, when an alleged attacker was seen charging toward him. Several parishioners immediately attempted to intervene while screams could be heard in the church.
Members of the public restrained the alleged attacker at the scene, according to New South Wales police. Police then arrived and arrested the suspect, later identified as a 16-year-old boy, who was taken to the hospital under custody and received surgery for injuries sustained during the attack. Police initially said he was 15.
NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb told reporters Tuesday that police believe the attack was premeditated.
“We will allege [the suspect] attended that church armed with a knife and stabbed the bishop and priest … We believe there are elements that are satisfied in terms of religious motivated extremism,” she said.
A 53-year-old man received cuts to his head and a 39-year-old man, who was injured after attempting to intervene, suffered cuts and a shoulder wound, police said. Both were treated by paramedics and taken to the hospital.
“They are lucky to be alive,” Webb said.
In a statement, Christ The Good Shepherd Church said Bishop Emmanuel suffered several blows to the head and body. Parish priest Father Isaac Royel was also injured but no one else inside the church was harmed, it said.
Charbel Saliba, Deputy Mayor of Fairfield City, a suburb of western Sydney, told CNN that Emmanuel was well known in the local community.
While the bishop was bleeding, “he put his hand on the man that stabbed him and said something like, ‘May the Lord Jesus Christ Save you,’” Saliba said, citing a witness.
Riot erupts outside church
Video of the attack spread quickly on social media, prompting angry members of the community to converge on the church, police said. Footage showed chaotic scenes as people threw objects at police cars.
Webb, the police commissioner, condemned the “uncontrolled” crowd that gathered soon after officers and first responders arrived on the scene, calling their conduct “totally unacceptable.”
“People converged on that area and began to turn on police. People used what was available to them in the area, including bricks, concrete, palings, to assault police and throw missiles at police, and police equipment, and police vehicles,” Webb said.
NSW Ambulance Commissioner Dominic Morgan said paramedics and police were forced to retreat inside the church, where they were holed up for three and a half hours as crowds rioted outside.
“This was a rapidly evolving situation where the crowds went from 50 to hundreds of people in a very rapid period of time. Our paramedics became directly under threat,” he said.
We need guns for hunting and self defense against criminals and a tyrannical government. I enjoyed your article but I feel bad for the security guards. I mean they have nothing except a radio. No pepper spray, no baton, no taser? That's not right. Also you didn't mention the gangs boated in right after the gun grab???? Why is that?
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Have you ever been to grad school? One of the biggest parts of getting a PhD is learning how to critically evaluate literature and data.Yeah yeah. Get "educated" and learn to love the smell of your own flatulence. This is scientism, quasi-intellectualism. Not real intelligence. These people are taught what to think, not how to think.
The problem with the literature is that you're already two steps behind. You don't know what you don't know, i.e. was there other information or studies that has been omitted from the context of what you're studying? Conflicts of interest? And so forth.Have you ever been to grad school? One of the biggest parts of getting a PhD is learning how to critically evaluate literature and data.
Within the context of the pharmaceutical industry, I definitely do not think so. You're free to believe what you want, but it's obvious to me there's a clear circular logic going on between the industry, the literature system, and then academia that relies on that. It happens in other branches of science as well.You seem to be making sweeping assumptions and generalizations about those who do research and I think you should be careful in making those sort of assumptions because you're bound to be wrong more often than right.
Who needs guns when there are knives, right?
I will not deny you your opinion of what my point was and how effective it was.i know nobody who killed themselves during covid.
mass murders in the u.s. have access to both knives and guns yet there are about 20 times as many gun deaths than knife deaths in the u.s.
knives are incredibly easy to obtain and yet they choose guns.
i don't think your question makes the point you think it makes.
alasdair
Yes, but I live in Chicago where they actually had a strict no gun law for about a decade, so I was speaking from real life experience not replying to a call for one in the future. It was as effective as closing the barn gate after the horses ran away. I haven't touched a gun since my time in the military and don't own one now, but I understand those who might want to own one.p.s. i don't think i've ever seen a bluelighter, in this forum or any other, call for a blanket ban on guns.
alasdair
Chicago is very close to Wisconsin where you can easily drive to get guns. The local ban means nothing when they're still so incredibly easy to accessYes, but I live in Chicago where they actually had a strict no gun law for about a decade, so I was speaking from real life experience not replying to a call for one in the future. It was as effective as closing the barn gate after the horses ran away. I haven't touched a gun since my time in the military and don't own one now, but I understand those who might want to own one.
That and Indiana ...Chicago is very close to Wisconsin where you can easily drive to get guns. The local ban means nothing when they're still so incredibly easy to access
And I think you're just another unfortunate soul who has invested great time, energy, and money, into something that they can't bring themselves to critique honestly, lest they find out what a charade it all is.If you've never experienced or performed research first hand I think you're just making wild baseless assumptions, which has been obvious from all of my interactions with you
What progress? We have had decades of no real innovation, no real breakthrough invention, except in the narrow predetermined areas of acceptable development as deemed per the military industrial complex.In fact if what you assert was true then no progress would be made anymore, research is a system that builds on itself and if people are publishing nonsense data or things that don't work then no new research would be successful
I think you fail to understand the incredible complexity of biological systems and the amount of effort and funding it takes to run experiments. Electronics are far easier in comparisonAnd I think you're just another unfortunate soul who has invested great time, energy, and money, into something that they can't bring themselves to critique honestly, lest they find out what a charade it all is.
What progress? We have had decades of no real innovation, no real breakthrough invention, except in the narrow predetermined areas of acceptable development as deemed per the military industrial complex.
Most of the top innovations i.e. internet, smartphones, AI, are literally from the military industrial complex! The rest are generally either in support of it directly e.g. robotics, genomic/bio research, or indirectly by propping up the status quos pet theories to keep us confined to their paradigm e.g. 'gravitational waves'.
I love science. I think its great. But as an enterprise, it's co-opted. It's plain as day.