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trump new york fraud investigations

Burnt Offerings said:
I remember watching a documentary about the Bernie Madoff story and that’s actually kind of how it worked there too. These financial entities COULD have done their due diligence and took a closer look at some of the shady moves Madoff was making, but chose not to cuz Madoff was kind of a fixture in that scene and he told them everything was on the level. He just bullshitted them basically

Although if I was a bank and didn’t do my due diligence with Trump (also a “fixture in the scene” but not in a good way) I’d probably wanna get my head examined 🙄
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In the Madoff case at least, he had staff-members actually creating false documents. One particular story had them print out a vast sheaf of fake documentation while a financial investigator was in another room. To make it appear 10+ years old and well thumbed, two guys tossed the paperwork to each other for an hour to 'age' it.

I don't know if Trump had people do such things but back before everything was digital, checking someone's financial situation heavily relied on paper documentation and that could be forged. Whatever anyone else thinks about blockchains, it does allow hashes of documents to be timestamped upon creation and update.

As crypto is today, so that kind of venture capital was in the 1990s - a totally wild-west situation with huge holes open to abuse.
 
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I'll always be less afraid of the party that decentralizes the government. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize while drone killing Americans overseas with no due process. Reagan couldn't have passed NAFTA in his wildest wettest dream.
 
one of trump's expert witnesses - eli bartov - stated thursday that there was "no evidence whatsoever of any accounting fraud".

wow. solid testimony in defense of trump. how much does such expert testimony cost?

bartov received ~$877,000, some of which was paid for by the trump organization and trump's save america pac.

alasdair
 
Doctor Steve Brule said:
I'll always be less afraid of the party that decentralizes the government. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize while drone killing Americans overseas with no due process. Reagan couldn't have passed NAFTA in his wildest wettest dream.
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If you weren't aware, each successive president, regardless of political affiliation, has widened the remit for drone strikes without exception.

The targeting of Major General Qasem Soleimani on Iranian soil in 2020 could have led to nuclear conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani​

 
trump will testify monday!

trump does not cower!

Alina Habba: Trump will take the stand regardless and will navigate gag order

"i would never discourage the former president from testifying because, quite honestly, our plan up until now was to have him testify. he always wanted to testify and he should testify. when he has nothing to hide it's the best thing you can do to put this great witness on that is going to stand up and tell you the truth"

it's definitely happening! i can't wait to hear trumps testimony.

wait.

nevermind.

alasdair
 
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BOMBSHELL!

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN.

TRUMP IS FINISHED.

not to be confused with = all the other BS we've hearing for almost 10 years now
 

Is the above a different case?

I mean, the prosecution has got more from the guy SAYING things than from any other single source so he's actually listened to his legal council.

But it's my understanding that the worst outcome is likely to be a large ($250 million) fine.

He lost a case earlier this year, didn't he? But it doesn't seem to have affected his support.
 
Trump planning to deliver closing argument in civil fraud trial: Reports

"Former President Trump intends to deliver his closing argument this week in the sprawling New York fraud trial threatening his business empire, according to multiple reports.

Trump, the Trump Organization and several top executives — including his adult sons — are accused by New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) of falsely altering the value of the business’s assets on key financial statements to receive tax and insurance benefits.

The former president plans to issue a final summation in his defense Thursday as the trial comes to a close, ABC News and The Associated Press reported. Judge Arthur Engoron, who is overseeing the bench trial and will decide the verdict, approved the plan, according to a source who spoke with the AP."

oh yes please.

alasdair
 
God tell me about it. It was unbearable being forced to endure his insufferably moronic missives as president. Anyone who thought they could avoid it simply by avoiding social media was sadly mistaken, because the American press considered it to be their sacred duty to inform the public of many half-baked ideas he pooped out of his ill-informed & proudly ignorant brain. It was like getting cornered day in and day out by an old reactionary bigoted uncle or something
 
alasdairm said:
hey, please respect the man. this is a guy who correctly claimed a couple of days ago that pouring water on a magnet destroys a magnet.

wait. nevermind.

alasdair
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“All I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that's the end of the magnets.”

-Donald Trump Twitter January 6, 2024.



I feel his comments would EASILY product enough script for a new series of 'Look Around You'.
 
I hadn't realized that the next US general election was as late as November.

I read that when Kurt Gödel was obtaining US citizenship, he pointed out an "inner contradiction" within the US constitution by which a president could become a dictator. It took the efforts of both Einstein (Gödel's sponsor) and others around him to convince Gödel to just shut up and take the test.

Now Gödel is regarded as one of the greatest logicians in history and it's accepted that he was referring to Article V being self-referential. Nobody knows the precise details (although many have looked) but I don't know if a logician of Gödel's ability has ever looked.

But now it would appear that de jure law and de facto law have taken different paths. If nothing else, the current legal cases where a defendant has an almost unlimited amount of money to fight, appeal and even confabulate what laws actually apply is an important test.

I'm not so ignorant or naïve to believe the old lie that 'an innocent man has nothing to fear from the law' BUT when someone argues that they are above the law - that's essentially what a dictator is.
 
Trump ordered to pay $355M in New York fraud case

"A New York judge on Friday ordered former President Trump to pay nearly $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case that has dealt a stark blow to his family’s business empire.

Judge Arthur Engoron’s 92-page decision came just weeks after closing arguments in the case following a months-long trial last year during which Trump frequently lambasted the judge and the prosecutor who brought the case."

alasdair
 
Kise said the former president will “of course appeal.”

Just out of interest, who within his own organization did Trump throw under a bus? After all, it's never his fault, it's always someone else's.

You know, from this side of the pond most people just watch the guy, listen to his speeches, tweets and interviews... then looks at DSM-3a code 301.7.

The man displays every single cardinal symptom.

-Diminished capacity for empathy
-Lack of remorse
-Sadistic
-Paranoid
-Histrionic
-Narcissistic
-Grandiose sense of self-worth
-Sense of entitlement
-Shallow effect
-Manipulative
-Need for admiration

I think the US has something called the Goldwater rule where a psychiatrist cannot comment on a persons mental health without interviewing them. But the thing is, that IS the case for mental illness but it's NOT the case for personality disorders. Because by their very nature one has to view that person based on how they interact with others.

Someone who openly states they intend to be a dictator will, if not prevented, become a dictator. He didn't even hide it. It was a proud statement. And NO, I do not believe it was said as a joke - only people with a sense of humour can do jokes.
 
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