Israel is under attack

[Pissed_and_messed]

Israel’s Controlled Demolitions Are Razing Neighborhoods in Gaza

In addition to its aerial bombardment, Israeli ground forces have carried out a wave of large-scale detonations, destroying residential homes, schools and mosques across the strip.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Loading…

edition.cnn.com

Now it is getting very real and resembles what USA did in Afghanistan and Iraq, causing hundreds-fold deaths compared to what Bin Laden caused with 9/11, whereas now count is only 30-fold, give or take.

-------------

Israel’s bombardment and siege since October 7 has drastically diminished vital supplies in Gaza, leaving the entire population of some 2.2 million exposed to high levels of acute food insecurity or worse, according to the Integrated Food Security and Nutrition Phase Classification (IPC), which assesses global food insecurity and malnutrition. Martin Griffiths, the UN’s emergency relief chief, told CNN the “great majority” of 400,000 Gazans characterized by UN agencies as at risk of starving “are actually in famine.” UN human rights experts have warned “Israel is destroying Gaza’s food system and using food as a weapon against the Palestinian people.”

 

[mal3volent]

UN human rights experts have warned “Israel is destroying Gaza’s food system and using food as a weapon against the Palestinian people.”

The UN who participated in the October 7 terrorist attacks and refused to vote to condemn them? Those people said this? Have they seen the videos of Hamas raiding huge trucks filled with supplies?

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

So it reads

 

[Mjäll]

It's a blatant truth that UN has low credibility in this shit. Overall seems a virtue signalling patchwork made for false sense of security.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

I agree that UN is unreliable and not as great organization as some people imagine. Let's not forget, damn organization has actively contributed to make legalization of drugs so much harder.

UN is one of the reasons I am so suspicious of all big and complex organizations. Eventually some assholes end up in roles that allow them to abuse their power and turn into shit everything that has been accomplished.

In the article, many people that got the aid packages told that many of the items supposed to be included were missing. I wouldn't be surprised if it was pointed out UN employees and higher officers took some.

 

[Soso78]

Israel is:

Jewish 74%, Arab 21%, other 5%

Why would they be purposely targeting Arabs in Gaza when they have so many in their own country (And government)?

If they aren't targeting them based on their ethnicity, you can't call it ethnic cleansing. It's just an attempt from some to make it into a race thing, white/west/Jews vs brown/Mideast/Arabs ... pitting identity groups against each other is always the underlying calculus of all their political stances.

Is it possible they just want Gaza?
I mean it looks to me like Israel has expanded
into Palestine more and more over the years.
This is just the next step maybe

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

More ad hominen arguments.

I actually took steps to investigate if I had mistaken, and it really seems to be that I didn't know what ad hominem even means; I thought it just refers to straw man fallacy, but that is apparently not the case. I didn't perceive what I said as part of rhetorics as much as genuine recommendation, so that's why it got all so messed up. I apologize.

 

[swilow]

The UN who participated in the October 7 terrorist attacks and refused to vote to condemn them? Those people said this? Have they seen the videos of Hamas raiding huge trucks filled with supplies?

Come on dude, Hamas are just protecting the supplies. The stuff is much safer underground and in the bellies of the freedom fighters.

UNRWA is an utter blight on Palestinians tbh. How are Palestinians the only refugee group to ever grow from roughly 400,000 in 1948 to around 5.5million now? Under UNRWA rules, refugee status is inherited. A Palestinian refugee is always a refugee, and so are their great grandchildren. The greater ethos of this agency is that Palestinians will never not be refugees until they return to their 1948 homes, unlike say the UNHCR who's policy is to resettle displaces persons.

None of this applies to the 750,000 Jews expelled from Arab lands in the 1940s and 1950s though. Jewish refugees aren't sexy though, despite their skin colour in this case.

It's almost as if UNRWA seeks to create a perpetual grievance and focus the entire Palestinian culture around identifying with that grievance. And the billion dollar annual aid budget that nation's like the US, Australia, and Israel supply (supplied) just frees up Hamas to do what it wants and divert every other resource in Gazan society to their holy war.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Loading…

edition.cnn.com

Now it is getting very real and resembles what USA did in Afghanistan and Iraq, causing hundreds-fold deaths compared to what Bin Laden caused with 9/11, whereas now count is only 30-fold, give or take.

-------------

Israel’s bombardment and siege since October 7 has drastically diminished vital supplies in Gaza, leaving the entire population of some 2.2 million exposed to high levels of acute food insecurity or worse, according to the Integrated Food Security and Nutrition Phase Classification (IPC), which assesses global food insecurity and malnutrition. Martin Griffiths, the UN’s emergency relief chief, told CNN the “great majority” of 400,000 Gazans characterized by UN agencies as at risk of starving “are actually in famine.” UN human rights experts have warned “Israel is destroying Gaza’s food system and using food as a weapon against the Palestinian people.”

You can't really compare it to Iraq. They ultimately had nothing to do with 9/11, and we invaded them based on a huge lie which was also unrelated.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

You are not really wrong, HAMAS is step or two closer being widely recognized institution. Anyway, I have ten minutes to get into public transportation tube, I might get back to it once I have time.

 

[Electrum1]

Bombing Iraq and Syria right now

 

[December Flower]

If anything, the current genocide is a good indicator of which countries are, in effect, run by Jewish money masters.

It would be fair to say that the UK, France and Germany, along with the USA are the obvious ones that stand out - which makes sense, because these are great centres of wealth. I have no doubt, based on the unfolding events, that these countries are run by Jewish people - they decide. Not the prime ministers, not the cabinets. It is the people who wield the most financial sway behind the scenes who are making the decisions.

Meanwhile, the Republic of Ireland and certainly South Africa - are very much not controlled by Jewish powers. Both counties, notably, not very rich.

Just in case anyone's wondering why the slaughter is continuing at pace and there's no sign of it stopping until a sizeable chunk of the Palestinian population has been wiped off the face of the Earth.

We essentially have no Jews in Germany, 0.1% Jewish people. Literally. I visited the Synagogue in Munich and there was like 2 guys there, and both came from Israel and were just in the vicinity to visit Dachau(the first concentration camp)

But we're on the US-leash since 1945. We cannot make decisions without the US looking over our shoulder and dictating how we do it.
We're still a military occupation zone, we don't even have a constitution, so kind of bold to assume we have even an ounce of power You think we wanted to fight in Afghanistan? Fuck no. The US told us to do it, so woof woof, good dog we are, we sent our people there. the US even did an act of terror on our soil (Nordstream 1 & 2) and we're too scared to investigate - not investigating an act of terror during war time.........

That should give you a bit more clarity about what situation Germany is in. We're going to be trapped in a cage until the US dies/the dollar loses reserve status(which is essentially the same thing). That's the only way we'll get to do what we want again. Which wouldn't be supporting more wars, I don't know a single German who is not sick of war. All of us spent years in school listening to what we did in WW2 in fucking gruesome detail. All of us visited concentration camps because of school. We are so fucking sick of war - that is our Zeitgeist.

And France's president is saying "Europe should become neutral, and stop relying on the US so much", so I'm not sure why you think France is a part of this. He wants the wars to stop, which is a rarity in the West.

 

[mal3volent]

If anything, the current genocide is a good indicator of which countries are, in effect, run by Jewish money masters.

It would be fair to say that the UK, France and Germany, along with the USA are the obvious ones that stand out - which makes sense, because these are great centres of wealth. I have no doubt, based on the unfolding events, that these countries are run by Jewish people - they decide. Not the prime ministers, not the cabinets. It is the people who wield the most financial sway behind the scenes who are making the decisions.

Meanwhile, the Republic of Ireland and certainly South Africa - are very much not controlled by Jewish powers. Both counties, notably, not very rich.

Just in case anyone's wondering why the slaughter is continuing at pace and there's no sign of it stopping until a sizeable chunk of the Palestinian population has been wiped off the face of the Earth.

Wow you just said I'm going to take the mask all the way off.

 

[-=SS=-]

If anything, the current genocide is a good indicator of which countries are, in effect, run by Jewish money masters.

Court Jews. These people don't actually control the financial system, they just shuffle the paper and coins on behalf of their masters.

 

[snmfmy]

If anything, the current genocide is a good indicator of which countries are, in effect, run by Jewish money masters.

It would be fair to say that the UK, France and Germany, along with the USA are the obvious ones that stand out - which makes sense, because these are great centres of wealth. I have no doubt, based on the unfolding events, that these countries are run by Jewish people - they decide. Not the prime ministers, not the cabinets. It is the people who wield the most financial sway behind the scenes who are making the decisions.

Meanwhile, the Republic of Ireland and certainly South Africa - are very much not controlled by Jewish powers. Both counties, notably, not very rich.

Just in case anyone's wondering why the slaughter is continuing at pace and there's no sign of it stopping until a sizeable chunk of the Palestinian population has been wiped off the face of the Earth.

So who are these Jewish money masters? I'd really like to know who they are!

I have strong suspicions that they don't exist.

There are 3194 billionaires as of 2022, yet only 267 are Jewish, less than 10%, so how can they be the money masters?

Please explain to me how these Jewish money masters can control central bank monetary policy in the United States, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, etc.

Out of 538 total senators and congressmen in the United States, there are 35 Jews so they're not controlling Congress.

Donald, Trump is not Jewish. As far as I'm aware. Joe, Biden is not Jewish as far as I'm aware. Barack Obama is not Jewish as far as I'm aware.

So please tell me where all these Jewish money masters are so I can understand.

Perhaps it's just your anti-Jew bigotry repeating bullshit claims about Jews running the financial world.

If they did, there'd be a lot more Jewish billionaires and they're just aren't.

No, the bottom line is that the Palestinians chose to vote in a terrorist organization whose mission is to destroy the state of israel as their governing body.

If there wasn't a better example of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Fuck around and find out, then what's happening to the Palestinians because they made Hamas their government. I don't know what is.

If a significant percentage of the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza physically assaulted the Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad terrorists that are hiding out in Gaza and either kill them or handed them over to the Israelis. This war would be over. But they won't.

And they and their children are going to suffer the consequences of fostering and providing aid and comfort to terrorists.

That's the bottom line. As long as there are terrorists in Gaza, israel is not going to stop and I don't blame them.

Would you let somebody who told your entire neighborhood that they want to kill you and your family and take over your house remain living in your neighborhood after they managed to kill one of your extended relatives?

Because that's what happened on October the 7th.

I wouldn't. Neither will Israel anymore.

 

[December Flower]

So who are these Jewish money masters? I'd really like to know who they are!

I have strong suspicions that they don't exist.

There are 3194 billionaires as of 2022, yet only 267 are Jewish, less than 10%, so how can they be the money masters?

Please explain to me how these Jewish money masters can control central bank monetary policy in the United States, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, etc.

Out of 538 total senators and congressmen in the United States, there are 35 Jews so they're not controlling Congress.

Donald, Trump is not Jewish. As far as I'm aware. Joe, Biden is not Jewish as far as I'm aware. Barack Obama is not Jewish as far as I'm aware.

So please tell me where all these Jewish money masters are so I can understand.

Perhaps it's just your anti-Jew bigotry repeating bullshit claims about Jews running the financial world.

If they did, there'd be a lot more Jewish billionaires and they're just aren't.

No, the bottom line is that the Palestinians chose to vote in a terrorist organization whose mission is to destroy the state of israel as their governing body.

If there wasn't a better example of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Fuck around and find out, then what's happening to the Palestinians because they made Hamas their government. I don't know what is.

If a significant percentage of the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza physically assaulted the Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad terrorists that are hiding out in Gaza and either kill them or handed them over to the Israelis. This war would be over. But they won't.

And they and their children are going to suffer the consequences of fostering and providing aid and comfort to terrorists.

That's the bottom line. As long as there are terrorists in Gaza, israel is not going to stop and I don't blame them.

Would you let somebody who told your entire neighborhood that they want to kill you and your family and take over your house remain living in your neighborhood after they managed to kill one of your extended relatives?

Because that's what happened on October the 7th.

I wouldn't. Neither will Israel anymore.

We had these ppl too in Germany in the 30s. They just need someone to blame for how life treats them so unfairly.

Israel is now under attack for almost 80 years. Their populus is still in deep trauma over what we Germans did to them, and they're still not safe. I find it only natural that their MO towards their many enemies has radicalized over the years.

It's what you do when you're surrounded by enemies who want to wipe out your people. Sure af gruesome what Israel is doing rn, but absolutely understandable.

 

[December Flower]

Yeah, I think the phrase "actions speak louder than words" is appropriate here.

But to clarify the point - very rich, wealthy countries are funding this genocide and twiddling their thumbs saying things like this:

"Calling Israel’s military offensive in Gaza “disproportionate”, the Italian foreign minister, Antonio Tajani, said there were “too many victims” in Gaza,"

In fact, nobody with any clout is doing anything to stop this televised genocide (a first, no less) - and the very few that are speaking out, aren't really achieving anything.

30,000 dead and counting with no end in sight. Yeah, I suspect influential Jewish organisations that operate behind the scenes are almost certainly running this shit show of utter human depravity. I mean, how else do you explain it?

I'm not even one for conspiracy theories (at all) but I can't explain how this 'full show of support" is matched only by equal public outrage at what's happening. The politics here doesn't match the will of the people. Except for quite a few in Israel, of course.

If this genocide hadn't occurred, I would have immediately laughed at the very idea. Now I see what's happening? It sadly rings very true.

I mean yeah, Israel is under US protection.

You do not mess with Israel or critique what it does. I think that is consensus among Western countries.
The situation in Gaza has been gruesome for decades, yet none of our countries ever said a word.
You do not fuck with the US' plans

 

[montel]

I mean yeah, Israel is under US protection.

You do not mess with Israel or critique what it does. I think that is consensus among Western countries.
The situation in Gaza has been gruesome for decades, yet none of our countries ever said a word.
You do not fuck with the US' plans

Interesting story here:

Man speaks his mind about the situation in Israel.

He's fired from his post

Now they're going after anyone who was in the same room with him and heard his comments.

Starmer urged to suspend councillors at meeting that heard Israel comments

Labour leader under pressure over claims Rochdale candidate Azhar Ali’s remarks went unchallenged at event

www.theguardian.com

I don't suppose anyone's studied Stalinism here? You know, where if you spoke out against the state they'd throw you, your family and everyone you met in jail. That was a thing back then in Communist Russia.

I'm guessing many of us would be looking at a life sentence in a gulag for some of the comments we've posted here.

 

[PharmaTrain]

Dude, don't even start arguing with me on this issue. I actually visited Palestine as opposed to most other people who have formed their opinion on this matter based on fucking media reports, especially americans. Palestine isn't at all what you see on TV. Go and actually visit that place instead of lecturing me on something that you obviously got no clue about. Entire families have been kicked and are still being kicked out of their homes and farmland by jewish "settlers" but you don't hear or see those stories in corporate media, do you?


Ah yes, the age old fairy tale of Hamas strapping bombs to kids which people in all their naivete believe because of the effective photo ops that was done by Mossad.
Let me guess, you probably also believe the utter craptale that Palestine was a desert and only turned into a lush, green, fertile land after the jews arrived there, right? Go and take a look at pre-1946 pictures of that place. Palestinians already had entire cities and that whole place was already green.
Keep believing zionist fairy tales though. Your country is run by dual-loyalty politicians who transfer $30 billion in taxpayer funds per annum to a foreign nation, which you fail to even see, so who am I even arguing with? Go and do your homework first before you debate with me on this topic. I've been there in person, I've talked to the people, I've been in activist groups (not anymore due to private issues), etc. so don't lecture me with age old, run-of-the-mill propagandistic talking points that have long been debunked a million times...

I know of the Zionist agenda and I'm from the "USSA". I was researching old digitized newspapers and found the Rothschild's wanted a piece of Palestine after WW2 for their people. This was a deal with the allies and the Rothschild family. I've read the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion. I must say much of it has came true in their global plan for world domination. Notice they always bring up the Holocaust when facing questions or subjects they don't want to answer?