Israel is under attack

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The current coverage has been incredibly pro-Israel.
The IDF's narratives are parroted by the MSM half the time.
The coverage is all about the handful of Israelis who have been killed. You don't hear about the 4008 Palestinian children who have been bombed to death.

Jesus H Christ. I swear people have literally no fucking memory any more, it's actually disturbing.

It was less than a month ago that Gaza Health Ministry (Hamas controlled) literally tried to claim that Israel destroyed a hospital and killed 500 people when one of Hamas shite fireworks misfired and exploded in the parking lot killing precisely nobody.

And the entire media machine ran with that story without bothering to verify it first.

1400+ is not a handful and 'killed' is an understatement.

Every Palestinian who is interviewed about their dead family members is first asked to "condemn Hamas".

As they fucking should be quite frankly. If they're not prepared to condemn Hamas then personally I won't trust a god damn word that comes out of their mouths.

Sorry, but given the state of London right now I could not give a shit. I've seen too many interviews with Muslim clerics and others who can barely hide the lies from their eyes, who are clearly abusing the trust and tolerance of my country in order to wedge their bullshit in the front door. I don't care if it's here in the UK or in Gaza, the time has come to speak the truth and call out the lies. And if you're not prepared to denounce a group who are literal terrorists then I won't believe a word you say.

London could quite easily descend into riots this weekend because of all this bullshit. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the Palestinians circle of violence bullshit - or Israel for that matter. All of this comes down to people being silent, both here at home (politicians, police, etc) and in Gaza. The best thing that could happen is Gazan's throw off Hamas themselves and put a stop to this before it gets any worse.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Jesus H Christ. I swear people have literally no fucking memory any more, it's actually disturbing.

It was less than a month ago that Gaza Health Ministry (Hamas controlled) literally tried to claim that Israel destroyed a hospital and killed 500 people when one of Hamas shite fireworks misfired and exploded in the parking lot killing precisely nobody.

And the entire media machine ran with that story without bothering to verify it first.

1400+ is not a handful and 'killed' is an understatement.

As they fucking should be quite frankly. If they're not prepared to condemn Hamas then personally I won't trust a god damn word that comes out of their mouths.

Sorry, but given the state of London right now I could not give a shit. I've seen too many interviews with Muslim clerics and others who can barely hide the lies from their eyes, who are clearly abusing the trust and tolerance of my country in order to wedge their bullshit in the front door. I don't care if it's here in the UK or in Gaza, the time has come to speak the truth and call out the lies. And if you're not prepared to denounce a group who are literal terrorists then I won't believe a word you say.

London could quite easily descend into riots this weekend because of all this bullshit. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the Palestinians circle of violence bullshit - or Israel for that matter. All of this comes down to people being silent, both here at home (politicians, police, etc) and in Gaza. The best thing that could happen is Gazan's throw off Hamas themselves and put a stop to this before it gets any worse.

Are you going to ask every Israeli that gets an interview to condemn IDF killing Palestinian children and journalists? Why should we trust them otherwise?

 

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Are you going to ask every Israeli that gets an interview to condemn IDF killing Palestinian children and journalists? Why should we trust them otherwise?

Are you 14 years old or something? The IDF does not go around massacring people, binding hands and setting fire to family members in front of other family members. They are not angels, no military force is, but the difference between the IDF and Hamas is that they are a sophisticated state military that has the worlds eyes on them. If they did anything remotely close to what Hamas did the Arab world would lose their fucking minds and descend on Israel in a nano-second.

Hamas are ideological fuckwits. The IDF is a military composed of young recruits who'd rather be partying in Tel Aviv. Guess which ones I trust more straight off the bat.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

They do though? That's what we've been trying to tell you. They regularly "mow the lawn" among other various harassments and torture of Palestinian civilians

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/14/israel-gaza-history/

 

[elgoucho9]

Are you 14 years old or something? The IDF does not go around massacring people, binding hands and setting fire to family members in front of other family members. They are not angels, no military force is, but the difference between the IDF and Hamas is that they are a sophisticated state military that has the worlds eyes on them. If they did anything remotely close to what Hamas did the Arab world would lose their fucking minds and descend on Israel in a nano-second.

Hamas are ideological fuckwits. The IDF is a military composed of young recruits who'd rather be partying in Tel Aviv. Guess which ones I trust more straight off the bat.

So what your saying is you would trust an organized military over unorganized people?

So your not happy with HOW Hamas kill people? Israel have killed 23 Palestinians for every 1 Israeli, often whole families at once. I really don't see how because they have more money to use air strikes etc this makes them any more humane. Is it humane to starve people or moniter every aspect of their existence? No it is not. There is no freedom in Palestine.

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Should Hamas have attacked Israel on October 4th? No that was wrong.

Did Israel know about the attacks and do nothing precisely so they could wage war on Gaza? Yes they did and this was also wrong.

Has Israel been pressing Palestine for years because they want their land? Yes this is obvious to anyone who is being objective about the matter.

Do the Palestinians wish death upon Israeli's? Yes realistically ofcourse they do by the very nature of what's gone on.

Have both sides lied about multiple things since this started? Yes they undoubtedly have.

The media these days wants everything to be black and white, precisely because it divides the people. By the very nature of life nothing is black and white. And the truth is often in the middle.

Surely we could all agree both the actions of the IDF and Hamas should be condemned. If not we are just picking sides between 2 forces who are both committing attrocities on either side.

 

[Electrum1]

 

[Jabberwocky]

Jew hating woman drives car into what she thought was a children's Jewish school, but it was actually an antisemitic hate group.

Jew hating inception lol

https://fox59.com/news/indy-police-arrest-terrorist-for-purposely-driving-her-car-into-home-used-by-hate-group/

 

[swilow]

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Ooh so that's why we should be okay with the IDF slaughtering children. Got it, captain!

 

[swilow]

https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/israel-zionism/2023/11/ecstasy-and-amnesia-in-the-gaza-strip/

 

[mal3volent]

Surely we could all agree both the actions of the IDF and Hamas should be condemned. If not we are just picking sides between 2 forces who are both committing attrocities on either side.

they aren't the same .

 

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So what your saying is you would trust an organized military over unorganized people?

Erm, yes? A state military comes with oversight and bureaucratic processes that prevents absolute fucknuts from binding the hands of innocent civilians and setting fire to them while their family members are forced to watch. It's not perfect, shit happens because there's shit people, but it's infinitely better than a 'military' of terrorists who have absolutely no oversight what so ever and not only have no threat of court martial/military prison/international courts to dissuade such behaviour but they actually have the opposite.. they are backed by a religious bent that sees that sort of barbarism as justifiable.

So your not happy with HOW Hamas kill people? Israel have killed 23 Palestinians for every 1 Israeli, often whole families at once. I really don't see how because they have more money to use air strikes etc this makes them any more humane. Is it humane to starve people or moniter every aspect of their existence? No it is not. There is no freedom in Palestine.

In response to having 1400+ people butchered in absolutely sadistic methods. Targeted airstrikes in a densely populated area has inevitable collateral damage, and the IDF goes well beyond themselves to warn people well in advance of strikes to get the fuck out of the way. What do you expect? What other option do they feasibly have in this scenario.

As for starving them out. Gaza has a border with Egypt too, so I guess Egypt is starving them as well.

 

[elgoucho9]

Erm, yes? A state military comes with oversight and bureaucratic processes that prevents absolute fucknuts from binding the hands of innocent civilians and setting fire to them while their family members are forced to watch. It's not perfect, shit happens because there's shit people, but it's infinitely better than a 'military' of terrorists who have absolutely no oversight what so ever and not only have no threat of court martial/military prison/international courts to dissuade such behaviour but they actually have the opposite.. they are backed by a religious bent that sees that sort of barbarism as justifiable.

But yet the same state military is still happy to use banned chemicals such as white phospherous. How very beaurocratic of them.

Evidence of Israel's unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate

The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

www.amnesty.org

Israel: White Phosphorus Used in Gaza, Lebanon

Israel’s use of white phosphorus in military operations in Gaza and Lebanon puts civilians at risk of serious and long-term injuries, Human Rights Watch said today in releasing a question and answer document on white phosphorus.

www.hrw.org

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Weren't people bringing this up in this thread?

Viral Video Does Not Show Pro-Palestine Penn Students Chanting 'We Want Jewish Genocide'

A video of an October 2023 pro-Palestine demonstration at the University of Pennsylvania was shared far and wide on social media.

www.snopes.com

But yet the same state military is still happy to use banned chemicals such as white phospherous. How very beaurocratic of them.

Evidence of Israel's unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate

The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

www.amnesty.org

Israel: White Phosphorus Used in Gaza, Lebanon

Israel’s use of white phosphorus in military operations in Gaza and Lebanon puts civilians at risk of serious and long-term injuries, Human Rights Watch said today in releasing a question and answer document on white phosphorus.

www.hrw.org

They call themselves the "most moral army" too. Its crazy how much they have to fluff themselves up while they slaughter children

 

[Jabberwocky]

They call themselves the "most moral army" too

Yeah, that was pretty cringeworthy.

Its crazy how much they have to fluff themselves up while they slaughter children

All wars are the slaughter of young people while the old men watch from a distance.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I wonder how all this would play out if Israel was a member of NATO.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Yeah, that was pretty cringeworthy.


All wars are the slaughter of young people while the old men watch from a distance.

Not young people, actual children and babies

 

[nepalnt21]

The IDF does not go around massacring people

funny. yeah they do... they just do it from afar with missiles/ bombs. "not perfect" is a funny way of handwaving away war crimes.

waste of time

it's a waste of time for countless americans including a few lawmakers to try and convince the right ppl to stop giving billions to israel for the purposes of mass murder?

What other option do they feasibly have in this scenario.

uh... stop bombing innocent civilians and hostages, give humanitarian aid to the palestinian civilians, send in special ops to get low tier hamas, pay qatar (some of the billions the u.s. is giving them) to let the right peeps go in, and get THE ACTUAL LEADERS OF HAMAS THAT ARE NOT EVEN IN GAZA???

how about pretty much anything but what they're doing right now, because they're just making everything much worse.

warn people

israel: "hey innocent gazans! move south!" (bombs the south, bombs hospitals, bombs u.n. shelters and schools, bombs refugee camp)

over 4 THOUSAND palestinian CHILDREN dead now in this latest conflict.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Not young people, actual children and babies

Babies are young people.

They aren't intentionally obliterating children, it's technically collateral damage.

Whereas Hamas is deliberately targeting, kidnapping, and torturing children. Then using them as human shields like cowards.

Today's daily double is: "Who is the most egregious baby killing regime of the 21st century?"

*Jeopardy theme plays*

 

[someguyontheinternet]

They're just telling you that its unintentional but their behavior says otherwise. They claims they know where Hamas is but they still have to bomb a journalist's house killing them and their family? They have guided missiles Hamas does not. The families killed in the west bank are just accidents? Its just an accident when they claim they got a Hamas member when they bomb a refugee camp even though they never present evidence of that? They also claim, again without evidence, that they had to bomb all of those ambulances because not was Hamas even though there was evidence to the contrary?

From my perspective many westerners are saying that the insane amount of 'collateral' damage is totally fine because they maybe sometimes might kill a Hamas member. Do you not see how crazy that is? This has been going for decades and westerners are too busy to notice sucking each other off as they mutually condemn Hamas.