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Just nix two of your anime episodes or half of one of your hasanabi streams
very funny... pretty much the only time i watch anything when is when the family watches it together. i haven't watched a whole movie (besides a disney film or two) in literally two or three years.
 

he describes a lot of points I sharply agree with, mainly that people really don't understand or appreciate who or what they are cheering for when they choose to side with what they think is the just cause

he comes off as a pretentious British asshole in a very British way, but he's right

and I very much agree: fellow Muslim countries don't care about the Palestinians, they just hate Jews
 
he describes a lot of points I sharply agree with, mainly that people really don't understand or appreciate who or what they are cheering for when they choose to side with what they think is the just cause

he comes off as a pretentious British asshole in a very British way, but he's right

and I very much agree: fellow Muslim countries don't care about the Palestinians, they just hate Jews
But supporting Palestinians and denouncing Israel isn't the same as supporting other Muslim countries even if those countries support Palestine, for whatever reason. And just because there's a weird intersection of neonazis and antizionists doesn't mean those people are the same. These are all things that just seem to distract from the matter at hand which ultimately is how Israel treats Palestinians and Israel is taking advantage of that at every turn
 
These are all things that just seem to distract from the matter at hand which ultimately is how Israel treats Palestinians and Israel is taking advantage of that at every turn
and how about how Palestinians and every other Muslim thinks about Israel? + how everyone on the internet thinks Israel is committing a genocide, that they are now the Nazis themselves?

It's not a one-sided situation no matter how much people want to think it is.

People screaming online about how Israel is being genocidal also has negative consequences on innocent people.
 
Like the innocent Israeli settlers in the west bank that regularly intimidate Palestinians? Like the Palestinian boy that got stab end in Chicago? Seems to me like the damage and power ratios are pretty one sided
 
Like the innocent Israeli settlers in the west bank that regularly intimidate Palestinians? Like the Palestinian boy that got stab end in Chicago? Seems to me like the damage and power ratios are pretty one sided

see, this circles back to my belief that violence does not justify more violence

if you can't acknowledge that Jews are also being hurt by all of this, then there is no real debate to be had, it's a virtue war, which is pointless and inherently uneducated/baseless debate that goes nowhere

"if my enemies are nazis or the genocidal ones, it doesn't matter what I believe or know to be true, I am the justified one"
 
see, this circles back to my belief that violence does not justify more violence

if you can't acknowledge that Jews are also being hurt by all of this, then there is no real debate to be had, it's a virtue war, which is pointless and inherently uneducated/baseless debate that goes nowhere

"if my enemies are nazis or the genocidal ones, it doesn't matter what I believe or know to be true, I am the justified one"
I agree that violence does not justify more violence, 100%. I just want people to recognize who the actual oppressors are in this situation. One side has a massive amount of civilian casualties compared to the other side and it extends back before Hamas existed

The while idea of hundreds of civilian deaths to get one Hamas member being excusable is abhorrent
 
slow genocidal ethnic cleansing is still a genocidal ethnic cleansing.
So slow that the Palestinian population is going in the completely opposite direction? Dude, are you okay? 😃

Provide me some sources which confirm that this is genocide. I don't care about opinions, I'm interested in statistics. Explain why this population growing faster than Israel's is being wiped out and genocided.

BTW, you can still loathe Israel and its policies without having to resort to hyperbole. Allah knows, there is a lot of real shit to criticise there. It's just that when you have to exaggerate and distort, it makes your point seem like emotional nonsense.
 
So slow that the Palestinian population is going in the completely opposite direction? Dude, are you okay? 😃

Provide me some sources which confirm that this is genocide. I don't care about opinions, I'm interested in statistics. Explain why this population growing faster than Israel's is being wiped out and genocided.

BTW, you can still loathe Israel and its policies without having to resort to hyperbole. Allah knows, there is a lot of real shit to criticise there. It's just that when you have to exaggerate and distort, it makes your point seem like emotional nonsense.




 
The while idea of hundreds of civilian deaths to get one Hamas member being excusable is abhorrent
I agree, and nobody here or politically seems to be excusing it.

Although, it seems like that assertion itself is paired with 1000+ Israeli civilian's brutal deaths being excusable. Otherwise, it wouldn't be your main argument.
 
The while idea of hundreds of civilian deaths to get one Hamas member being excusable is abhorrent
The idea of one Hamas member hiding behind hundred of civilians after provoking Israel into attacking by beheading and burning woman and babies is the reality but for you to accept it you'd have to give poor brown people agency which leftist wokism cannot do.
 




"Israel accused"
"Prevent genocide"

Everyone gets an opinion. Facts don't lie though.

Can you explain the population growth in Gaza? Name another genocide in which the targeted population increased in numbers and life expectancy.
 
Like the innocent Israeli settlers in the west bank that regularly intimidate Palestinians?

The West Bank settlements are easily Israel's greatest shame. They should absolutely dismantle whatever they can on that front. It is the one place where claims of colonialism in regards to Israel make sense. The IDF has greatly compromised itself as a result of defending those settlements.

Even so, terrorism and violence are not the solution.

Like the Palestinian boy that got stab end in Chicago? Seems to me like the damage and power ratios are pretty one sided

That was awful. But let's be honest here. Every time there is conflict in Israel/Palestine, Jews worldwide are violently targeted by radical Muslims or deluded progressives on a scale that utterly eclipses the anti-muslim incidents. Even when all is going well, Jews are targeted.


Antisemitism up by 1350%. Antimuslim incidents up 150%. I wonder why such a vast discrepancy. 🧐
 
Palestinian population
it hasn't even been a month yet since israel has been doing this particular iteration of their awful treatment of the palestinians.

there hasn't been enough time to see the ultimate consequences, but it is pretty obvious when netanyahu compares them to amalekites in the bible. and the president said there are no innocent civilians (hey, sounds like hamas' kinda justification). and they cut off food and water.

"ethnic cleansing" is probably a less controversial phrase for what is happening. ethnic cleansing by a genocidal regime.
 
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I agree, and nobody here or politically seems to be excusing it.

Although, it seems like that assertion itself is paired with 1000+ Israeli civilian's brutal deaths being excusable. Otherwise, it wouldn't be your main argument.
The Israeli deaths have been discussed and denounced day after day but you never hear anyone in the media or government talk about how bad it is for Israel to be killing 40000+ civilians. That's my point
 
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The West Bank settlements are easily Israel's greatest shame. They should absolutely dismantle whatever they can on that front. It is the one place where claims of colonialism in regards to Israel make sense. The IDF has greatly compromised itself as a result of defending those settlements.

Even so, terrorism and violence are not the solution.



That was awful. But let's be honest here. Every time there is conflict in Israel/Palestine, Jews worldwide are violently targeted by radical Muslims or deluded progressives on a scale that utterly eclipses the anti-muslim incidents. Even when all is going well, Jews are targeted.


Antisemitism up by 1350%. Antimuslim incidents up 150%. I wonder why such a vast discrepancy. 🧐
You're right terrorism and violence is not the solution, I'm simply trying to point out that Israel has been doing the terrorism and violence bit since long before Hamas showed up. Now that Hamas shiweed up people are only upset with Hamas and not Israel when Israel is obviously the primary aggressor
 
Do you really believe that Hamas was justified in doing what they did then?

You may not see it but there is a difference between responding to violence and unprovoked violence. I believe Israel has the right and obligation to respond to unprovoked violence by targeting those who perpetrated it.

I would love someone to answer the question of what would happen to Israelis if Hamas was to win.
Absolutely. First of all, if these fucking terrorists hadn't blatantly and unjustifiably attacked Israel Oct 7th, then Israel wouldn't be going full bore on Gaza right now. They have a right to defend themselves as would any other nation. Unfortunately for innocent civilians, i.e. children, babies have to die in this fiasco. War sucks for everyone. 😥
 
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