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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

Again, we provide ample evidence that your single source is not accurate and in fact manipulating the truth and once again you respond with an image portraying a false dichotomy. Simply stating something doesn't make it a fact. We use the weight of evidence to derive conclusions.

You might also wish to consider that some of us are experts in certain, specific fields.

And again, your response is graphorrhea rather than reasoned argument.
 
Again, we provide ample evidence that your single source is not accurate and in fact manipulating the truth and once again you respond with an image portraying a false dichotomy. Simply stating something doesn't make it a fact. We use the weight of evidence to derive conclusions.

You might also wish to consider that some of us are experts in certain, specific fields.

And again, your response is graphorrhea rather than reasoned argument.
It’s technically mal information. The interview with the mortician is real, these are the things they have been finding since 2021. We don’t know what’s causing it, but discerning minds may come to certain conclusions.
And it certainly goes against the safe and effective narrative. So it’s textbook mal information per the US federal government’s definition.
 
It's worth comparing it to outcomes across the many different vaccines given to protect against the manifold diseases that occur around the world. I'm sure the smallpox vaccine is responsible for a handful of deaths, but it has eradicated smallpox, a disease that was responsible for somewhere between 300-500 million deaths.


Now it appears that the only argument is if we should retain samples just in case it re-emerges. Since nobody has been able to establish the precise source, it's a difficult question.

What we do know is that Edward Jenner was the first person to discover that infection with the much less serious disease, cowpox, engendered immunity from smallpox. That we do recognize as being a zoonotic disease.


Polio is another disease that was still prevalent in my grandparents lifetime and on reflection, still reasonably common in my parents youth. Again, vaccine injury was still a real risk but a tiny risk when compared to the devastation the disease produced.
 
It's worth comparing it to outcomes across the many different vaccines given to protect against the manifold diseases that occur around the world. I'm sure the smallpox vaccine is responsible for a handful of deaths, but it has eradicated smallpox, a disease that was responsible for somewhere between 300-500 million deaths.

Now it appears that the only argument is if we should retain samples just in case it re-emerges. Since nobody has been able to establish the precise source, it's a difficult question.

What we do know is that Edward Jenner was the first person to discover that infection with the much less serious disease, cowpox, engendered immunity from smallpox. That we do recognize as being a zoonotic disease.

Polio is another disease that was still prevalent in my grandparents lifetime and on reflection, still reasonably common in my parents youth. Again, vaccine injury was still a real risk but a tiny risk when compared to the devastation the disease produced.
If you're open minded enough to consider other possibilities, or even just interested in the history, I highly recommend reading the book 'Dissolving Illusions' by S. Humphries. There is another narrative to all of this isn't taught through the education system, because the mainstream paradigm is completely focused on a 'germ theory' narrative - the reasons for this are a topic in itself. In the book she does a fantastic job of proposing another narrative using the recorded historical conditions and statistical data (deaths) from official sources.

There are publicly available historical graphs that show the rates of the various diseases and their respective deaths, and for all of them the graphs were already trending towards zero (or basically at zero) before the respective vaccines were introduced - Scarlet Fever excluded because it had no vaccine yet also disappeared despite it being one of the big pandemic killers in past centuries. Smallpox is the same too, it was already heavily trending down towards zero before the WHO launched its global campaign to eradicate it. Measles was basically at zero deaths in the UK and USA, 96% and 99% reductions respectively if I remember correctly, before the vaccination campaign even began - the culprit is Vitamin A deficiency, even the WHO recognizes the link between severe cases and deficiency. Deficiency in vitamins/minerals is one of the defining factors in relation to disease also. We've just seen this again with Covid (respiratory conditions) and Vitamin D deficiency. This ties back in with the pandemics of the past and the horrendously deficient diets of the masses.

The fact this is true, and it is, means there was clearly other factors responsible. Clean water, better food quality and variety, decreasing pollution, increased sanitation, better living and work standards. That one sentence doesn't even convey the magnitude of the changes, and the book does a great job of expounding just how hellish things really were for people. When you get a sense of the battery farm conditions people were living in, it really does seem clear why we suffered so many pandemics and epidemics.

As for vaccination, I have seen it highlighted that both the Indian's and Chinese were utilizing primitive forms of vaccination before the West was and that it was Jesuit missionaries who brought the idea back to the West to their private libraries. I forget the name of the Jesuit who brought it back, but I did find a specific name (and quotation) from his writings about the matter.

For Polio (Mad-cow) there is good evidence to suggest these were the result of industrial poisoning, and not viral disease. Polio is connected with DDT and Lead Arsenate, and Mad-Cow with the organophosphate 'Phosmet'. A few years ago there was only Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan that had remaining 'wild' Polio cases, and these countries just happen to still either use DDT directly (Malaria control) or have old stocks that continue to percolate through the farming communities due to the lax policing.
 
I know... should we mention that DDT was first used in the 1940s but Polio was known to exist in ancient Egypt, the Roman empire and was classified in 1840 by Jecob Heine?
Known? No. Believed.

Paralysis (or 'withered limbs') is not a 1-to-1 match with Polio and they certainly didn't have genomic sequencing back then. This is a belief being projected back through time on to vague depictions, not even medical accounts and certainly not any real medical classification.

Frail And Sickly, King Tut Suffered Through Life
Severe Physical Ailments, Possibly Caused By Inbreeding

The tests did reveal enough physical problems to challenge the idea that this boy king had an easy life. "This guy was suffering," Pusch says.

The study's biggest surprise involves Tut's left foot, Pusch says. It was clubbed. And some bones in the toes were dying from a degenerative disease. That would explain why Tut's tomb contained more than 100 canes or walking sticks, Pusch says.

The degenerative bone disease probably caused Tut's foot to swell from inflammation and made it impossible for him to walk normally, Pusch says.

Many of Tut's problems could have come from inbreeding, which was common in the royal family.
This is another explanation (inbredding, or malnutrition), and again they clearly say 'possibly'.

Unless the disease maps 1-to-1 with a very particular symptom then it is absolutely disingenuous to make assertions about that disease being there when no one was able to test for it and prove that it was the cause.
 
Known? No. Believed.

Paralysis (or 'withered limbs') is not a 1-to-1 match with Polio and they certainly didn't have genomic sequencing back then. This is a belief being projected back through time on to vague depictions, not even medical accounts and certainly not any real medical classification.

Frail And Sickly, King Tut Suffered Through Life

This is another explanation (inbredding, or malnutrition), and again they clearly say 'possibly'.

Unless the disease maps 1-to-1 with a very particular symptom then it is absolutely disingenuous to make assertions about that disease being there when no one was able to test for it and prove that it was the cause.


No two people present with PRECICELY the same symptoms. For ANY disease. Hippocrates stated that some 2500 years ago. Ask any doctor now.

But many ancient records of the progression of polio are recorded. That is the key, not the initial presentation but careful recording of the progression of the disease. Hippocrates recorded the progression of multiple diseases and their are unique features that he, along with many less famous doctors recorded cases and that results in a weight of evidence.

Obviously 4000 years ago we could not have genomic sequencing - but we do now and we are able to sequence the genomes of mummified bodies. Or, to be precise, those that have remained well preserved.

So again, it's a weight of evidence. That's how science works. No single case could possibly be treated as proof, hundreds of cases lends a strong weight of evidence towards a given proof.

But given that DDT wasn't used until 1941, a hundred years after Polio was formally classified based on THOUSANDS of sets of doctors notes tracking the progression of the disease, unless DDT can time travel, it's evidently not the case.
 
Wow it's almost like biological systems are complex with many things that influence outcome. Who could have guessed
Yeah. Like after 3 years of a super-duper pandemic of a novel respiratory pathogen, which somehow I have completely managed to avoid despite being in direct proximity to persons who worked in known case environments.

It's funny when people make statements like yours, because it only ever seems to apply in one direction. If I say (as per above) and that the reason why I don't get ill is because I eat healthily, exercise 2-3 times a week, sleep well, spend time outdoors everyday, then I'm seen as the nutcase. Incidentally the UK government made ZERO effort to extol the virtues of the aforementioned healthy living practices during the pandemic, or supplements for deficiencies. Funny that.

You're also apparently immune if you work in British Parliament Not one of those fucks died. And of course we're not allowed to know their vaccination status - some parliaments around the world were exempt, and the Speaker said MP's would be exempt from the Covid Passport in the Commons.

I do wonder how you would square the circle if it was revealed that virtually none of the MP's and Lord's got vaccinated.
 
Flu vaccine manufacturers use statistical analysis to try and guess which strains will be around in a season. I think they use publicly reported data from samples from hospitals and Dr offices to see what has been spreading but they are definitely wrong sometimes
 
Idk man I exercise 4-6 times per week and eat all home cooked meals from whole foods yet I still got Rona once, pretty sure that doesn't matter a whole lot.

However it was reported that a tiny percentage of the population has a natural immunity to covid
 

Not all research can be implicitly trusted, it needs not only evaluation of the single piece of research itself but also the status of the field in general to figure out what's what. This is why the scientific process works, because it systematically weeds out falsehoods. This is why cherry picking leads to false ideas, because it's easy to miss the forest for the trees when you really agree with what a few trees say but ignore the majority
 
THC products in new York can be sold from any store not only licensed dispensaries?

I'm aware of what counterfeit carts are but that's still a scheduled substance that the corner store is selling.

If they're dupes of California carts that would imply that the corner store is involved in the federal offense of smuggling a schedule 1 substance
 
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