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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

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Like it or not, this is the future that we've earned. Not paying attention to the climate due to lack of regulation in favor of profits means that more and more previously unseen pathogens will manifest. It's almost as if it's our planets own immune response to humans, and by that I mean, I believe that is what stuff like CoVID is precisely, one part of a complex means of checks and balances.

The anti-vaxx shit is tired. There are actual real issues that you and the reality based world can actually agree on. We should focus on working collaboratively on addressing those things. Of the tens of thousands of patients across 2 health centers i've worked for since CoVID started, none have had serious long term health outcomes from any vaccine. However, a number have had serious long term health outcomes from CoVID. Those with vaccines have had far less serious long term health consequences even when infected subsequently.

The math is simple and this is not coming through any media, this is from the data that we pull directly from our medical records to submit as part of the vaccine delivery process. If it was happening, I'd know about it and would happily share that info, because it would be important information for people on a harm reduction forum to be aware of.
Yeah dude climate change caused Covid19 to be created in a lab through gain of function research
 
Yeah dude climate change caused Covid19 to be created in a lab through gain of function research
I can’t tell if that dude is trolling or is just super Reddit brained. That climate change narrative has been heavily propagandized, many kids have been put through the ringer. So any and all discernment is out the window, religion has been replaced with le science^tm, climate change, and nasa is their church.
 
I don't get my news from memes, are you 14?

Yeah dude climate change caused Covid19 to be created in a lab through gain of function research
Where'd OG SARS come from?

Consensus is that CoVID-19 is not from a lab leak. You have no way of knowing any more than I do whether that's true. Even if it turns out that it is from a lab leak, doesn't change the fact that climate change is literally changing the types of pathogens present in our water, soil, and air - there was a strain of chlamydia found in the Atlantic that was frozen in ice caps since the last ice age. Funny that you shit on my harmless yet very plausible theory that the earth has complex systems capable of a form of immuniological response. You think we're the most ancient and advanced part of this planet? Hardly. Earth's had solar power up and running for billions of years through photosynthesis, and computer networks up and running since the first mycelia started forming.
 
I don't get my news from memes, are you 14?


Where'd OG SARS come from?

Consensus is that CoVID-19 is not from a lab leak. You have no way of knowing any more than I do whether that's true. Even if it turns out that it is from a lab leak, doesn't change the fact that climate change is literally changing the types of pathogens present in our water, soil, and air - there was a strain of chlamydia found in the Atlantic that was frozen in ice caps since the last ice age. Funny that you shit on my harmless yet very plausible theory that the earth has complex systems capable of a form of immuniological response. You think we're the most ancient and advanced part of this planet? Hardly. Earth's had solar power up and running for billions of years through photosynthesis, and computer networks up and running since the first mycelia started forming.
What year specifically did climate change start by your estimates?
 
I can’t tell if that dude is trolling or is just super Reddit brained. That climate change narrative has been heavily propagandized, many kids have been put through the ringer. So any and all discernment is out the window, religion has been replaced with le science^tm, climate change, and nasa is their church.
whoa, you're an aerospace expert on TOP of being a professional climate scientist?!?!?! dude, don't do drugs... you'll ruin that perfectly good brain of yours. fuck, we got us a polymath up in this bitch.
 
I can’t tell if that dude is trolling or is just super Reddit brained. That climate change narrative has been heavily propagandized, many kids have been put through the ringer. So any and all discernment is out the window, religion has been replaced with le science^tm, climate change, and nasa is their church.
I'm a cactus, not a troll.

Further, it's pretty rich that you're sitting here casting shade at me for 'propaganda' when there is literally evidence we can all see and feel, as well as track and study, indicating that significant climatological shifts have occurred in a specific and predictable manner which is consistent with temperature increases that are more severe than they would be if there was not the large scale burning of fossil fuels, and the constant consumption of non-renewable power.

You're fighting the wrong people, and the wrong battles guys, I'm sorry to say. Maybe it feels better to fight the 'big bad' because you've become so socialized by comic books to only have the capacity for nuance delivered as big good vs big bad, but that's not how things work. Evil is complex, nuanced, and diffuse. What's a greater evil, however, is the ignorance and indifference you hide behind.
 
What year specifically did climate change start by your estimates?
Can you be more specific as to what you mean by "start" - Also, you're dodging questions that I asked you, so I will be polite and await your thoughtful response, as well as clarification as to what you mean by 'start', before answering.
 
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I can’t tell if that dude is trolling or is just super Reddit brained. That climate change narrative has been heavily propagandized, many kids have been put through the ringer. So any and all discernment is out the window, religion has been replaced with le science^tm, climate change, and nasa is their church.
Yeah I agree that at least a few of the current "popular" social movements are all part of a new religion. Each one existed to some extent before the internet, but social media amplified everything and brought them together into a liberal intersectional religious-like ideology

And they have a gigantic patronage network throughout the government/institutions
 
Yeah I agree that at least a few of the current "popular" social movements are all part of a new religion. Each one existed to some extent before the internet, but social media amplified everything and brought them together into a liberal intersectional religious-like ideology

And they have a gigantic patronage network throughout the government/institutions
That cuts both ways though. The same exact thing has happened on both the liberal end and the conservative end of the spectrum, at a time that most people were drawn towards one or the other.

We need to work together, we're stronger together, never forget that.
 
It does go both ways historically, I agree, but currently in the U.S. it's extremely one direction throughout our important institutions, and that worries me
 
It does go both ways historically, I agree, but currently in the U.S. it's extremely one direction throughout our important institutions, and that worries me
MAGA has become a religion in and of itself. People are literally making political choices based on their devotion to Dear Leader. Conservatives have largely followed suit because it's the way the wind is blowing. If you look back to religious texts about the fall of civilizations, the precursors are always the same: Economic uncertainty, plagues, climate changes, and false leaders who emerge. In the bible, this is the Anti-Christ, who is in service to the Beast. There are iterations of this in Mayanism, Zorastrianism, etc. and the reason is because humans tend to react, en masse, in predictable ways. Scripture was a way to try to pass these warnings along to future generations in order to help protect us. Unfortunately, religion is been perverted by sex abusers and charlatans, as well as an increased focus on consumer luxuries and technology. This has left people feeling empty, which leads to the type of political religiosity that you're talking about.

The two party system has turned politics into Red Sox Yankees. Trump just exploited that far more than anyone else really had, while also being outright hostile and offensive to the majority of the country in the process.
 
We already know that a small group of capital owners control everything why are you guys acting like people just learned this yesterday

Isn't it more like you are ignoring the possible implications of power imbalance and control over media, medical research etc?

I don't understand your comment at all. Seems like an emotional kneejerk response and throwing shit randomly. What is it exactly that suggests that people learned this yesterday?
 
Bro those are the same group of people capital owners
Billionaires are not in the same league as the trillionaire/system owner class. Money is not equal to power.
Of the tens of thousands of patients across 2 health centers i've worked for since CoVID started, none have had serious long term health outcomes from any vaccine. However, a number have had serious long term health outcomes from CoVID.
How would you know when medical professionals are indoctrinated not to look for correlations indicating vaccine damage, when it has only been 2 years or so since the rollout started, when damage might be internal that you can't immediately register especially if it is working on the nano/genetic scale, and those who might have just died from the damage who obviously wouldn't be presenting with anything because they're already dead.

Your bias is self evident in this quoted text. Both sentences are based off vague assumptions.

I have not been ill since before the pandemic. No mask. No jabs. Associating with those who were working in schools with cases. Picking my nose. Rubbing my eyeballs. It's fucking bollocks and I'm tired of this idiotic covid belief system that allows medical professionals to excuse the sick lifestyles everyone leads these days, lumping people under this giant umbrella diagnosis based on a completely bullshit testing model and ignoring the fact that the majority of people do get ill regularly because their lifestyles are absolute garbage and they are garbage people inside and out.

You know this is true because the government/media deliberately chose to ignore the fact that the majority who were dying were the very elderly, in the UK the average age of covid mortality was above the national average age of mortality (82), and also those who were obese and already very ill. They also printed bullshit scare stories in their propaganda rags about young body builder types and athletically fit people dying of covid, stories about children with some foot/skin condition, and all the rest.

I'm tired of people like you who work in a supposed professional capacity who do not apply a professional level of critical thinking to your domain of work. EDIT: This doesn't just apply to those in the medical field, it is pervasive across our entire society: academics, journalists, law enforcement, politicians, etc.
Further, it's pretty rich that you're sitting here casting shade at me for 'propaganda' when there is literally evidence we can all see and feel, as well as track and study
I don't see and feel anything different in regards to weather at all. This statement just reveals the type of mental processes going on in your head, courtesy of the government.
 
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Capital owners are defined as such because the use their capital to earn a living and make biased decisions based around that. The things they do are to control the workers, this includes everyone you mentioned and it doesn't matter how much money they have just how they earn it because of where they exist in the power structure due to that
 
i don't really want to get into a debate about semantics, but, the meaning of "what vaccines do" has changed by incorporating the mRNA type, because the mRNA type has a different method of action than traditional vaccines.

to me this distinction is like telling people you work on an airplane and having them guess if that means you're the flight attendant or the pilot
It's more like arguing about the definition of air travel when before it was only a blimp but the airplane just got invented
 
i don't really want to get into a debate about semantics, but, the meaning of "what vaccines do" has changed by incorporating the mRNA type, because the mRNA type has a different method of action than traditional vaccines.

to me this distinction is like telling people you work on an airplane and having them guess if that means you're the flight attendant or the pilot

Do you think vaccines have remained the same since Jenner first demonstrated them in 1776? There are many different methodologies. When purified polysaccharides were first used in 1923, did the definition of vaccine change? When purified proteins were first used in 1970, did the definition of vaccine change? When the first chemically engineered vaccine was introduced in 1963, did the definition of vaccine change?

The technologies behind vaccines has been undergoing constant change and improvement for 250 odd years.

As for mRNA - it's been under development since the late 1980s... I feel that in 35+ years of development, they have but in an enormous amount of work to ensure safety. Yes, LONG before covid several companies were developing mRNA medicines. It was the production costs that prevented their use, not a safety concern.

The great things about science are that it doesn't care about your opinion or my opinion. To be given a patent the developers have to provide sufficient detail to prove:

1)The compound and/or usage are novel
2)Sufficient detail is supplied so that another facility with the appropriate apparatus can replicate the experiments.
3)Studies carried out before the patent was accepted are published,

That means that anyone with the appropriate resources and skills can repeat the synthesis and repeat all of the experiments used to ensure safety.
 
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