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Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

Xorkoth said:
Dude that's a really fucked up thing to say. Makes me think less of you, to be honest. :\ I hope you don't mean that and you're just trying to own a lib.



I didn't say the economy is amazing, just that it could have been a whole lot worse.

But anyway, I'm out, you honestly disturbed me with that comment, if you really believe that, then you've bought all their bullshit. This division is manufactured, those fucks are so busy laughing at us that they lost count of their money and had to start over.
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That’s where we are heading, I didn’t set the course, in fact I’d say the dems set the course by calling all republicans racist and bigots, and trying to arrest their political opponent so they can’t legally run again while they all do shit that they should be locked up for…come on man see the whole picture…oh and take a look at Brazils political situation, and tell me if you see any parallels with bolsonaro
 
Whataboutism... you didn't set the course, neither did I, but that's kid-level shit... "But mom, HE started it!" You're an adult, suck it up and do what's best for everybody. You think tons of people who should be fellow countrymen killing each other out of hate is going to help anybody at all? Who fucking cares who said what to who? You think because some self-righteous lefties called the group you identify with racists and bigots, a war, that could result in millions of deaths and the likely collapse of our country as the other global superpowers swoop in, is necessary? Inevitable? Desirable? That's insane, dude
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Hmm, Iv had more people asking for applications in the last 6 months then probably ever…and I see businesses close Their doors to never be opened again on what seems like a weekly basis, I’m just not seeing a strong economy :/
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That genuinely sucks but despite having no reason to doubt your observations, anecdotal evidence is of course the most important metric in this day and age. Any level of objectivity has to take into account people from all walks of life across the Union and to give any consideration to the collective population is just another name for socialism.

Assuming you are talking about Las Vegas, a business closure once a week in a city with a total metro area containing 2 & 1/4 million people is far from ideal but not that drastic in the grand scheme of things.
 
Xorkoth said:
Whataboutism... you didn't set the course, neither did I, but that's kid-level shit... "But mom, HE started it!" You're an adult, suck it up and do what's best for everybody. You think tons of people who should be fellow countrymen killing each other out of hate is going to help anybody at all? Who fucking cares who said what to who? You think because some self-righteous lefties called the group you identify with racists and bigots, a war, that could result in millions of deaths and the likely collapse of our country as the other global superpowers swoop in, is necessary? Inevitable? Desirable? That's insane, dude
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No it’s stating facts , kid shit denying responsibility and then expecting the other person to be the adult,…your party is already destroying the country morality and unity….I’m sorry but setting shit on fire and expecting other people to just get over it is not how the real world works….you look into Brazil ?
 
Go punch someone and then say “dude what’s done is done kids point fingers be an adult and get over it” tell me how it works out for you…cause it wasnt just calling republicans racist and bigots, it’s was trying to get them fired for voting for trump and getting their businesses closed down…kids have convenient memories
 
Las Veghost grower said:
If that’s what it has to come to, I’ll be god damned if I’m gonna let these under cover nazis take over the country
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Checkmate again. This is a core example of the superiority of both the US and its right wing in particular. Only war vets such as the above poster understand how amazing armed conflict is and how fascistic it is to pick on elements of the government just because they want to police reproduction and what goes on in childrens underwear.
 
Last I checked you guys are the ones pushing the normalization of pedophelia…MAPS, grown men shaking their ass dressed as a woman in front of toddlers…claiming children should be able to decide if they want “gender affirming care”I swear to god you guys lack any self awareness, and that’s why it will have to come to blows, your just on another planet
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Last I checked you guys are the ones pushing the normalization of pedophelia…MAPS, grown men shaking their ass dressed as a woman in front of toddlers…claiming children should be able to decide if they want “gender affirming care”I swear to god you guys lack any self awareness, and that’s why it will have to come to blows, your just on another planet
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Here we go - the main issue of our day. Having dared to acknowledge how obsessed some people have become with the health and social care of minors and their families since they got bored with banging on about CRT is just proof of how much I want to normalise the SA of children.

If I were in your position I would be extremely angry with BL for allowing the platforming of paedophiles. If you genuinely believe that this is what I am doing then I would ask myself what I am doing even acknowledging such a disgusting criminal and would take every action possible to have me banned and prevented from the potential on and offline abuse I must be capable off. You are the one on planet Earth, not me. These are offences that should not be discussed, just prevented full stop. Either you take this seriously or you do not.
 
The Left have projected a false "white nationalist/Nazi" label on so many people for so many years that they may have in fact created that movement that opposes them.
 
steewith2ees said:
Here we go - the main issue of our day. Having dared to acknowledge how obsessed some people have become with the health and social care of minors and their families since they got bored with banging on about CRT is just proof of how much I want to normalise the SA of children.

If I were in your position I would be extremely angry with BL for allowing the platforming of paedophiles. If you genuinely believe that this is what I am doing then I would ask myself what I am doing even acknowledging such a disgusting criminal and would take every action possible to have me banned and prevented from the potential on and offline abuse I must be capable off. You are the one on planet Earth, not me. These are offences that should not be discussed, just prevented full stop. Either you take this seriously or you do not.
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Boiling frog method. You very slowly and incrementally create an environment where pedophilic acts become more normalized, accepted. Then you continue to push it a more. All the while there is a sizable percentage of people who may not expect or see what's going but they feel socially pressured to go along with it.

"I'm not going to tell those drag performers that they cannot perform in front of children. I am not a transphobe!"
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Xorkoth said:
This division is manufactured
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i think there is some truth to this, Xork.

we - bluelighters who disagree - are often closer than we think. sometimes we disagree on the goal but, often, we broadly agree on the goal and just differ on the best way to get there. neither 'side' has a monopoly on what is right.

i also respect and embrace a difference of opinion. a difference of opinion is a good thing. hearing a different perspective is important to ensure that we don't end up in - or stay in - a bubble.

sadly, there are some here who demonstrably do not respect a simple difference of opinion.

las veghost grower and i don't see eye to eye on much really but i he's clearly formed his opinion based on his own reading, experiences, analysis, etc. i totally respect that.

it's a shame he can't show me and others the same simple courtesy - he thinks i'm not capable of independent thought, only spout what tv tells me and that we're all morons.

it makes having a civil, productive discussion in this forum challenging, if not impossible.

alasdair
 
mal3volent said:
The covid lies that Trump promoted ?
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Why are you so insanely upset about the orange man? I’m genuinely not trying to piss you off etc. It’s hard to look at things objectively, but try. Trump can be a shit bag, but he’s not some devil. Just a man that the establishment doesn’t like much, and a lot of people seem to support. The trump vaxx was definitely one of his worst ventures. Do you really think the TV was completely wrong about Covid, but is telling the truth with trump? I’ll repeat myself again, foreign policy is everything, anyone that dissents will get the trump treatment regardless of party. If rfk got in some how, and didn’t give them their wars, then they would be looking to kill him or put him in jail. It’s really simple as that.
 
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This is what I always think of when people try and act like the establishment is conservative
 
Have you seen that video where they splice together a bunch of news clips from different news outlets and they all say the same thing verbatim, pretty scary
 
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