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Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

alasdairm said:
^ indeed.

they're trying to lock him up because he allegedly committed crimes.

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Why arnt they going after Hillary hunter joe palosi ….deetadeeeee
 
mal3volent said:
so when Trump worked with all the pharma companies to fast track the vaccine, handed the government over to Fauci, instituted lockdowns, etc... was that establishment or anti establishment? Does he get forgiven for that too in your mind just because of his foreign policy?

Speaking of his foreign policy, you have been talking him up a lot. Do you forget that Trump regularly criticizes Biden for getting out of Afghanistan? Pulling the plug on that shithole was the best thing Biden ever did. And I personally think he isn't given enough credit on that. Why does Mr. anti war Trump talk shit about that? Get out first, as quickly as possible. That was always the best way. Biden was the one to actually get it done after two decades of talk.
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Trump gave him shit on the way he left Afghanistan, not for leaving, let’s atleast use facts
 
mal3volent said:
so when Trump worked with all the pharma companies to fast track the vaccine, handed the government over to Fauci, instituted lockdowns, etc... was that establishment or anti establishment? Does he get forgiven for that too in your mind just because of his foreign policy?

Speaking of his foreign policy, you have been talking him up a lot. Do you forget that Trump regularly criticizes Biden for getting out of Afghanistan? Pulling the plug on that shithole was the best thing Biden ever did. And I personally think he isn't given enough credit on that. Why does Mr. anti war Trump talk shit about that? Get out first, as quickly as possible. That was always the best way. Biden was the one to actually get it done after two decades of talk.
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He also sucked off Israel hard too, but that wasn’t enough to get in the establishments good graces. His general war policy, and probably his mocking of them to a lesser extent, is why we saw them fabricate the Russiagate narrative and push that for three years to hamstring his first term. The establishment controls the media, all of the agencies, most of the courts, most judges, etc etc. So bc trump is rich you think that makes him establishment? How do you explain literally every part of the establishment attacking him and trying to put him in prison? That’s what I don’t get
 
Dropperneck said:
He also sucked off Israel hard too, but that wasn’t enough to get in the establishments good graces. His general war policy, and probably his mocking of them to a lesser extent, is why we saw them fabricate the Russiagate narrative and push that for three years to hamstring his first term. The establishment controls the media, all of the agencies, most of the courts, most judges, etc etc. So bc trump is rich you think that makes him establishment? How do you explain literally every part of the establishment attacking him and trying to put him in prison? That’s what I don’t get
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I think you have narrowed your definition of establishment to fit within the parameters of your argument.
 
Dropperneck said:
He also sucked off Israel hard too, but that wasn’t enough to get in the establishments good graces. His general war policy, and probably his mocking of them to a lesser extent, is why we saw them fabricate the Russiagate narrative and push that for three years to hamstring his first term. The establishment controls the media, all of the agencies, most of the courts, most judges, etc etc. So bc trump is rich you think that makes him establishment? How do you explain literally every part of the establishment attacking him and trying to put him in prison? That’s what I don’t get
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I think it’s nothing more then your average complexities of social communities, to us from the outside it’s like “why don’t they just do this” but on the inside who knows how their relationships work, I’m sure they all are pretty tied together through business crime or politics , in other words Its not always as simple as it seems
 
Las Veghost grower said:
I think it’s nothing more then your average complexities of social communities, to us from the outside it’s like “why don’t they just do this” but on the inside who knows how their relationships work, I’m sure they all are pretty tied together through business crime or politics , in other words Its not always as simple as it seems
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sounds like copium to me
 
mal3volent said:
sounds like copium to me
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Hmm, sounds like average human social dilemmas in small tight nit communities to me :/…I guess a lot of people seem to forget these people have relationships going back probably 30 40 50 years….we’ve only been watching the past decade
 
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What I want to know is, how does anyone think either Trump OR Biden is what we need? They're both clowns. I don't understand how people don't see that. The Trump worship creeps me out. I don't see anyone worshipping Biden but if I do, that will creep me out, too.

I will say, I have seen the economic free-fall go much better than I expected. The stock market hasn't crashed, and inflation has slowed, and gas prices have come down a lot. Of course, it hasn't all played out yet, but right now it looks like the mythical "soft landing". Stability is what I want, and do you really, honestly believe that Trump is going to give us stability? Like, really?

What I want is for politicians to step up and refute this toxic partisan narrative, before we're all in the middle of Civil War, vol. 2. Biden hasn't been as good at that as I hoped, but he was a far cry from Trump, who can't help but say something dehumanizing about the left every time he makes any sort of public communication. Like, yeah, I cringed and felt dirty when I voted for Biden... and the man is a puppet, and a creepy puppet at that. But Trump is poison, mark my words, we're gonna end up killing each other if we keep this bullshit up. The politicians are sledgehammering this wedge for personal gain, and the media is pouring gasoline on the fire for clicks. We gotta wake the fuck up.

We need JFK or something right about now, JFK, where are you...?
 
The economy is actually doing surprisingly well. Covid fucked shit up and that's not Trump's fault nor is it Biden's, it's happening all over the world, not just here. I think the current administration has done a pretty good job with the economy, honestly. The labor market is still historically strong, wages are still going up, inflation has slowed, the dreaded gas prices have dropped and stayed stable. I'd say the economy is a strong point for the argument for Biden, it could have gone WAY worse. I still desperately wish I could see someone younger and fresher and different on the 2024 ballot, though. I mean honestly, I don't even consider Biden to be the real president, he's obviously senile, or in the early stages at the very least. He's a figurehead. We need a charismatic leader who can unite the people. Trump is charismatic, for sure. But unite the people? I hope you don't believe he can or would do that, it couldn't be more clear that he has no intention of doing anything but hammering that wedge in further.
 
Hmm, Iv had more people asking for applications in the last 6 months then probably ever…and I see businesses close Their doors to never be opened again on what seems like a weekly basis, I’m just not seeing a strong economy :/…but I guess if some news article say the economy is doing alright and wages are up while inflation slows down I should just ignore the shit I see in reality, cause that would make me feel better about the current administration
 
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Las Veghost grower said:
Oh and at this point I’m pro civil war2, cause I’m on the wining side
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Dude that's a really fucked up thing to say. Makes me think less of you, to be honest. :\ I hope you don't mean that and you're just trying to own a lib.

Las Veghost grower said:
Hmm, Iv had more people asking for applications in the last 6 months then probably ever…and I see businesses close Their doors to never be opened again on what seems like a weekly basis, I’m just not seeing a strong economy :/
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I didn't say the economy is amazing, just that it could have been a whole lot worse.

But anyway, I'm out, you honestly disturbed me with that comment, if you really believe that, then you've bought all their bullshit. This division is manufactured, those fucks are so busy laughing at us that they lost count of their money and had to start over.
 
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