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Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

Las Veghost grower said:
How is he the establishment if the establishment wants him dead…that alone should outweigh him being a asshole to a logical person and vote for him….like you said dropper can see bullshit
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if the establishment wants him dead why nominate him for president? 🤔
 
^ indeed.

i'm told the establishment wanted biden to win in 2020 and he won.

so, from there, trump won in 2016 so he was the establishment pick.

i'm told everything the establishment wants, happens.

if the establishment wanted trump dead, how is he not already dead?

there are some impressive mental gymnastics on display when it comes to "the establishment".

alasdair
 
mal3volent said:
So former President Trump, backed by the RNC and most Congressional Republicans... is outside of the establishment ?
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They are doing everything in their power to get him out. But desantiso isn’t working out. You don’t even have to pay that much attention to know the republican establishment hates trump. Being against their wars puts you in the anti establishment column automatically. It’s like the single biggest thing they can’t have.
 
swilow said:
You've normally got what I think is an overactive bullshit detector, yet somehow Trump isn't "the establishment"? How do you not see this?
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I don’t know that super partisan people are capable of being able to see this type of stuff. It’s so obvious i don’t think that anything said could do anything to change minds. The establishment doesn’t try and put its own people in jail using the establishment lol, unless you think it’s some big conspiracy.
 
Dropperneck said:
They are doing everything in their power to get him out. But desantiso isn’t working out. You don’t even have to pay that much attention to know the republican establishment hates trump. Being against their wars puts you in the anti establishment column automatically. It’s like the single biggest thing they can’t have.
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And somebody who needs to be told this, I mean fuck, how do you have a logical conversation if that isn’t already a given
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Mental gymnastics indeed….I swear to god, I don’t know what planet you guys are on,0 cause it ain’t earth
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It’s honestly frightening to me. I think it’s ultimately vanity that gets a lot of people. They want to see themselves a certain way, when they are the absolute opposite, which causes cognitive dissonance. If you support the current administration you are the establishment.
 
So no mental gymnastics are required to think that an elected president of the United States who is running for a second term and has the blessing of the RNC who is controlled by the most evil entities on earth ISNT part of the establishment.
 
mal3volent said:
So no mental gymnastics are required to think that an elected president of the United States who is running for a second term and has the blessing of the RNC who is controlled by the most evil entities on earth ISNT part of the establishment.
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They are still in the public eye, probably the only reason trump hasn’t shot himself in the back of the head 3 times already
 
mal3volent said:
So no mental gymnastics are required to think that an elected president of the United States who is running for a second term and has the blessing of the RNC who is controlled by the most evil entities on earth ISNT part of the establishment.
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The rnc is absolutely the establishment, and so is basically everything around trump. The fact that he’s his own man to a degree and isn’t willing to go along with the establishments prescribed foreign policy is what makes him anti establishment. I just wonder why they don’t just kill him, like with jfk. Rather than showcasing the insane duplicity in the justice system. Makes me not feel so good about our future, since they don’t care at all about how it looks.
 
My guess trump has one of those murder boxes where if he gets killed all kinds of evidence on all kinds of people get sent to every website/news outlet, he’s no dummy
 
Las Veghost grower said:
My guess trump has one of those murder boxes where if he gets killed all kinds of evidence on all kinds of people get sent to every website/news outlet, he’s no dummy
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I genuinely do think that’s what the documents raid was about. Maybe he’s part of it all, who knows. Don’t really care tbh, nothing is changing even if trump got in again. Only difference is we may not have as many wars, but then we have to put up with the intelligence agency riots, shootings, protests, etc
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Mental gymnastics indeed….I swear to god, I don’t know what planet you guys are on,0 cause it ain’t earth
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The planet where the billionaire isn't part of the establishment? Come back to earth, buddy. The somersaults you'd have to do to get me thinking Trump isn't as establishment as any president will be amazing to see. Just because he says he's not status quo doesn't mean he is. You've been tricked by him and that must be embarrassing but we're down here, man. Hitch a ride back to us anytime soon.
 
swilow said:
The planet where the billionaire isn't part of the establishment? Come back to earth, buddy. The somersaults you'd have to do to get me thinking Trump isn't as establishment as any president will be amazing to see. Just because he says he's not status quo doesn't mean he is. You've been tricked by him and that must be embarrassing but we're down here, man. Hitch a ride back to us anytime soon.
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Right, your so clearly in touch :/….apparently the complexities of human relationships and social chess is something you haven’t spent much time on, so there is really no way for you to understand anything but “he rich they rich they friends”
 
Now go back to the kids table, actually go watch game of thrones, yes I know it’s a show but in that show it a pretty great depiction of how social politics work…btw trump would be Tyrion
 
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swilow said:
The planet where the billionaire isn't part of the establishment? Come back to earth, buddy. The somersaults you'd have to do to get me thinking Trump isn't as establishment as any president will be amazing to see. Just because he says he's not status quo doesn't mean he is. You've been tricked by him and that must be embarrassing but we're down here, man. Hitch a ride back to us anytime soon.
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If he is part of the establishment then why is the literal establishment trying to lock him up?
 
Dropperneck said:
The rnc is absolutely the establishment, and so is basically everything around trump. The fact that he’s his own man to a degree and isn’t willing to go along with the establishments prescribed foreign policy is what makes him anti establishment. I just wonder why they don’t just kill him, like with jfk. Rather than showcasing the insane duplicity in the justice system. Makes me not feel so good about our future, since they don’t care at all about how it looks.
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so when Trump worked with all the pharma companies to fast track the vaccine, handed the government over to Fauci, instituted lockdowns, etc... was that establishment or anti establishment? Does he get forgiven for that too in your mind just because of his foreign policy?

Speaking of his foreign policy, you have been talking him up a lot. Do you forget that Trump regularly criticizes Biden for getting out of Afghanistan? Pulling the plug on that shithole was the best thing Biden ever did. And I personally think he isn't given enough credit on that. Why does Mr. anti war Trump talk shit about that? Get out first, as quickly as possible. That was always the best way. Biden was the one to actually get it done after two decades of talk.
 
^ indeed.

they're trying to lock him up because he allegedly committed crimes.

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alasdair
 
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