Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[MsDiz]

@deficiT has left a pretty clear message, please do not antagonise each other. Try to support each other, bringing each other down helps no-one. I have had to delete messages. Keep it kind please!

 

[Kaatrina]

Problem is that alot of people are in a similar situation and want to see how much they can recover while taking low dose meds. Your journey is also tainted after one year you took haldol shots and invega pills. Retrospective their is no reason to listen you as well. Also you complained having reduced sensitivity in your reproductive organs this isnt 100% recovery then

Taking invega pills and a forced Haldol shot in 2020 isn't the same as actively being on abilify and then scaring people by saying you're emotionless 3 years after invega. You imply that the lack of emotion is due to failure to recover when it's actually due to your current meds.

I fully recovered from invega after 2.5 years I have full sensitivity...you shouldn't look at my posts from when I was still recovering and compare it to me after then

 

[bowandsparrow]

I think recovery is a lot easier if you have a pet, too. I've had two cats for over a decade, and when I first got out of the hospital my motor skills were so bad I couldn't even pet them. The worst part was I was so medicated that I barely even cared. But pets are loyal, so they stuck with me until I started doing better.

These days, having a cuddle with one if them is definitely a small pleasure. I don't know if invega blocks oxytocin or not, but I think I get a little bit of it.

I don't think I'd recommend getting a pet while you're recovering because you won't bond the same way, but volunteering at a shelter or seeing a therapy animal might be a good idea.

 

[Robchanna]

Guys can people give an explanation on why I can’t get high. I am on Invega 5 shots and now stopped but no thc product works on me. It’s as if I am puffing air. You think I’m gonna be stuck like this forever

 

[Kaatrina]

Guys can people give an explanation on why I can’t get high. I am on Invega 5 shots and now stopped but no thc product works on me. It’s as if I am puffing air. You think I’m gonna be stuck like this forever

What Is Dopamine?

Dopamine is a hormone involved mainly in controlling movement, but it also plays a role in the brain’s reward system, helping to reinforce certain behaviors. Drugs like cocaine trigger dopamine, producing a high or euphoric feeling.

www.everydayhealth.com

At the end of the article is a section on "dopamine antagonists" . That's what invega is. Unfortunately for us the injection is delivered through nanotechnology crystals that take a very long time to leave the body and stop blocking your dopamine receptors so you can get high again.

 

[Baddream]

Guys can people give an explanation on why I can’t get high. I am on Invega 5 shots and now stopped but no thc product works on me. It’s as if I am puffing air. You think I’m gonna be stuck like this forever

No, it won’t be like this forever. You will probably notice a stronger effect gradually. However, I can’t promise you it will ever be the same as before. You should prepre yourself about this sad fact. I think drugs and alcohol is the only thing we never recover 100%. The rest I believe 100% but that’s just me. Maybe that’s a stupid assumption to believe some things are 100% and somethings are not. I really don’t know anymore than you do. Just my gut and personal experience. Maybe somebody who’s been off longer should weigh in

 

[Mort4king]

What Is Dopamine?

Dopamine is a hormone involved mainly in controlling movement, but it also plays a role in the brain’s reward system, helping to reinforce certain behaviors. Drugs like cocaine trigger dopamine, producing a high or euphoric feeling.

www.everydayhealth.com

At the end of the article is a section on "dopamine antagonists" . That's what invega is. Unfortunately for us the injection is delivered through nanotechnology crystals that take a very long time to leave the body and stop blocking your dopamine receptors so you can get high again.

Where did you find that invega is nanotechnology crystals?

 

[Robchanna]

No, it won’t be like this forever. You will probably notice a stronger effect gradually. However, I can’t promise you it will ever be the same as before. You should prepre yourself about this sad fact. I think drugs and alcohol is the only thing we never recover 100%. The rest I believe 100% but that’s just me. Maybe that’s a stupid assumption to believe some things are 100% and somethings are not. I really don’t know anymore than you do. Just my gut and personal experience. Maybe somebody who’s been off longer should weigh in

Does weed work on you man?

 

[Baddream]

Does weed work on you man?

I feel something, but it’s not strong. I smoked some california strain when I was still on invega from a bong, felt it alot more. It was premium stuff. I just don’t enjoy it much to be honest, I’m not the right person to ask. But a previous user @Bigsmoke420 was an expert and healed 100%. You should look up his posts they will inspire you. Then again, ppl like @Hopton09 didn’t feel shit. It’s a mystery whether he’s doing better now. From what I’ve gathered, some people cannot even feel coke years down the line. I’m optimistic because I can feel alcohol better now, I assume the same is true for weed but idk for sure. Alcohol gives me some kind of euphoria I’m able to loosen up, but I don’t crave to get high/drunk anymore the way I did at the beginning of recovery. I think that’s a positive sign in itself

Edit: glass pipe not bong

 

[apsucks]

Taking invega pills and a forced Haldol shot in 2020 isn't the same as actively being on abilify and then scaring people by saying you're emotionless 3 years after invega. You imply that the lack of emotion is due to failure to recover when it's actually due to your current meds.

I fully recovered from invega after 2.5 years I have full sensitivity...you shouldn't look at my posts from when I was still recovering and compare it to me after then

It is the same ...you said because people are taking AP they dont recover...you took ap yes or no...yes you did not only did you take AP you took injections of haldol and and invega pills which are far worse than a low dose of abilify but you don't know because you never had abilify. kind of hypocritical to claim that people who don't recovered or having problems is because they took AP during recovery, completely ignoring people who did recover while taking AP and ignoring the fact you took them yourself during recovery. First you recovered in 2 years now its 2.5 ok ...lets just add half a year on top of it

I feel something, but it’s not strong. I smoked some california strain when I was still on invega from a bong, felt it alot more. It was premium stuff. I just don’t enjoy it much to be honest, I’m not the right person to ask. But a previous user @Bigsmoke420 was an expert and healed 100%. You should look up his posts they will inspire you. Then again, ppl like @Hopton09 didn’t feel shit. It’s a mystery whether he’s doing better now. From what I’ve gathered, some people cannot even feel coke years down the line. I’m optimistic because I can feel alcohol better now, I assume the same is true for weed but idk for sure. Alcohol gives me some kind of euphoria I’m able to loosen up, but I don’t crave to get high/drunk anymore the way I did at the beginning of recovery. I think that’s a positive sign in itself

I smoked 2 grams a day sometimes up to 4 or 5 grams i'm convinced it sped up recovery but i didn't feel euphoric high

 

[keepinghope]

I'm taking an SSRI called Zoloft and i can clearly feel it lifting the Anhedonia and giving me a sense of joy again only 40 days after the second injection. I really think more people should look into this as a way of them lifting themselves out of the fog. Why aren't antidepressants like zoloft spoken about more of ways of getting out of the fog. By the way I see that the half life is only 44 days and this is confirmed. It seems like almost everyone cures their sexual dysfunction which is due to hyperprolactinemia which lowers testosterone. I've started a protocol of going for 10,000 steps every morning with a jog and then I use the sauna in the morning to sweat it out of me. I am wondering how much faster we can get this stuff out of our system with things like sauna use and a heavy sweat in the morning. Just trying to be a positive voice in this thread.

 

[deficiT]

I've never been on injections but I've been on such an enormous plethora of psychiatric or psychotropic drugs, off and on, for so long, like over 10 years.

I basically lost my Vyvanse, came off a huge gabapentin dose slowlyish, stopped taking abilify, quit opioids all at once in a period.

I still take Seroquel occasionally. But I do feel like these drugs altered me in a way, but I just think the longer you get away from them the better you get.

I've had haldol shots in the BHU once when I was freaking out. At first it felt like the most perfect thing in the world.

But then I got prescribed it, along with Seroquel, zyprexa, and abilify. SSRIs. Effexor.

I've got a long way to go in controlling my emotions and impulses. But I do feel better the more I get away from all of those prescriptions and crutches.

I just like actually being able to feel things I guess, and that's what APs can rob of you a lot of the time.

 

[keepinghope]

https://www.thecarlatreport.com/art...p reductions,prolactin levels through week 16.

Another study showing the benefits of b6 to lower prolactin

 

[deficiT]

I'm taking an SSRI called Zoloft and i can clearly feel it lifting the Anhedonia and giving me a sense of joy again only 40 days after the second injection. I really think more people should look into this as a way of them lifting themselves out of the fog. Why aren't antidepressants like zoloft spoken about more of ways of getting out of the fog. By the way I see that the half life is only 44 days and this is confirmed. It seems like almost everyone cures their sexual dysfunction which is due to hyperprolactinemia which lowers testosterone. I've started a protocol of going for 10,000 steps every morning with a jog and then I use the sauna in the morning to sweat it out of me. I am wondering how much faster we can get this stuff out of our system with things like sauna use and a heavy sweat in the morning. Just trying to be a positive voice in this thread.

Both Zoloft and Buproprion I think have helped me at times in recovering from the brain frog. There was a period over 10 years ago when I took Zoloft daily, but it just made me really manic, and reckless and careless. I've been on all the SSRIs and they can help you get out of a tricky spot but I never want to be on them too long. I just eventually get sick of taking them.

 

[bowandsparrow]

I'm taking an SSRI called Zoloft and i can clearly feel it lifting the Anhedonia and giving me a sense of joy again only 40 days after the second injection. I really think more people should look into this as a way of them lifting themselves out of the fog. Why aren't antidepressants like zoloft spoken about more of ways of getting out of the fog. By the way I see that the half life is only 44 days and this is confirmed. It seems like almost everyone cures their sexual dysfunction which is due to hyperprolactinemia which lowers testosterone. I've started a protocol of going for 10,000 steps every morning with a jog and then I use the sauna in the morning to sweat it out of me. I am wondering how much faster we can get this stuff out of our system with things like sauna use and a heavy sweat in the morning. Just trying to be a positive voice in this thread.

I wonder if testosterone supplements might be an effective way to reverse sexual dysfunction?

Low key, I'm a transgender male who has a testosterone pellet injection every 3 months. I might ask my doctor if we can up my dosage next time and see if that has an effect.

 

[deficiT]

I wonder if testosterone supplements might be an effective way to reverse sexual dysfunction?

Low key, I'm a transgender male who has a testosterone pellet injection every 3 months. I might ask my doctor if we can up my dosage next time and see if that has an effect.

Yeah, I've never heard someone suggest that, but it could potentially be a good avenue.

A lot of people have low T in general, especially as you get older. Not even having to do with the meds, but I've heard T has transformed people's lives in general, especially people prone to depression and shit like that.

 

[Kaatrina]

Where did you find that invega is nanotechnology crystals?

Crystal structure of paliperidone palmitate (INVEGA SUSTENNA®), C39H57FN4O4 | Powder Diffraction | Cambridge Core

Crystal structure of paliperidone palmitate (INVEGA SUSTENNA®), C39H57FN4O4 - Volume 32 Issue 4

www.cambridge.org

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319016414000383

https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/nnm.14.164

INVEGA SUSTENNA - Nano-Particle Technology

INVEGA SUSTENNA® (paliperidone palmitate 1-month) utilizes a nano-particle technology which improves dissolution of poorly water-soluble compounds.

www.janssenscience.com

https://unitaid.org/assets/Barrett-Rabinow-Nanomilling-background-paper.pdf

INVEGA ® SUSTENNA ®

Invega ® Sustenna ® produced by Janssen Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

product.statnano.com

If youre interested

It is the same ...you said because people are taking AP they dont recover...you took ap yes or no...yes you did not only did you take AP you took injections of haldol and and invega pills which are far worse than a low dose of abilify but you don't know because you never had abilify. kind of hypocritical to claim that people who don't recovered or having problems is because they took AP during recovery, completely ignoring people who did recover while taking AP and ignoring the fact you took them yourself during recovery. First you recovered in 2 years now its 2.5 ok ...lets just add half a year on top of it

How tf is taking 16 pills and a haldol shot in 2020 the same as being on abilify right now
everyone here has taken AP..its called invega sustenna. I had a psychotic relapse when I recovered just like you, the difference is I quit AP when leaving the hospital and you stayed on them because it's required to recieve disability
Ive always said 2.5 years for spirituality & full sexual recovery, perhaps you would like to comb through my posts again before you tell me my own timeline

I'm taking an SSRI called Zoloft and i can clearly feel it lifting the Anhedonia and giving me a sense of joy again only 40 days after the second injection. I really think more people should look into this as a way of them lifting themselves out of the fog. Why aren't antidepressants like zoloft spoken about more of ways of getting out of the fog. By the way I see that the half life is only 44 days and this is confirmed. It seems like almost everyone cures their sexual dysfunction which is due to hyperprolactinemia which lowers testosterone. I've started a protocol of going for 10,000 steps every morning with a jog and then I use the sauna in the morning to sweat it out of me. I am wondering how much faster we can get this stuff out of our system with things like sauna use and a heavy sweat in the morning. Just trying to be a positive voice in this thread.

because SSRIs cause dependency, their effects fade over time, they numb emotions, cause weight gain, and cause sexual dysfunction. I think jogging and sweating is good

I wonder if testosterone supplements might be an effective way to reverse sexual dysfunction?

Low key, I'm a transgender male who has a testosterone pellet injection every 3 months. I might ask my doctor if we can up my dosage next time and see if that has an effect.

Interesting, I think testosterone helps with libido but since male and female both suffer the same I don't think it would help with the general numbness and lack of feeling. I guess you would have to ask if the increased heart attack/stroke risk is worth it

 

[CrimsonThornX]

I would rather have been injected with heroin every day for a week than taken one injection of paliperdone

Same, I would've nearly preferred being injected with anything else instead of this poison, I'm pretty sure Invega has a very similar composition to heroin as far as I can remember too so that's interesting, but I'm sure heroin still causes nowhere near as much damage anyways, at least not with just a few uses.

Anyone experiencing muscle weakness? I’m no where near as strong as I was

Also yes I've been experiencing the same issue this entire time. It happened as early as just a few days after the Injection, I could suddenly barely even lift any amount of weights and couldn't handle being on the treadmill longer than 5 minutes or so. I've improved a lot since that incident but still lack the energy, stamina. and motivation I once had.

 

[keepinghope]

I think most of the effects people are experiencing are because of the continuation of being on some sort of anti-psychotic. Again make sure you get doctors approval, but I believe being off the shot and having a detox program of sweating the stuff out every morning and being as active as possible will help in the recovery immensely. Seriously the simple act of getting a deep sweat in every morning is almost guaranteed to speed up the process. The stuff is not active in your system during the half life phase their is a reason you have to get the injection again after the 30 days. I promise you guys I will be the one to share my positive results and not go ghost once recovered to continue to give people hope. This is temporary we all just have to be active in our recovery.

 

[CrimsonThornX]

I don't know why but I just suddenly had the idea that it would be nice if we could all somehow physically meet up in person at the same location to discuss our experience from Invega in more detail freely without the risk of moderation, even if my social skills have worsened from it. I'm pretty sure the majority if not all of us are experiencing practically identical side effects anyways.