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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Anyone in the business knows how to use the 'hot house, cold house' concept in which orders go to one person and via secure communication (their are hand cyphers that are in practice secure) tell their partner that the money has arrived and to send the goods.

But the UK is just a bad place to do business EXCEPT for the fact that packages originating in the UK aren't likely to be checked (or at least weren't).

Who knows - these are criminals bent on maximum profit so don't expect professional websites.
 
@Bleaney I'm not sure about the year thing - it's probably a sign that a certain site isn't used much and may be defunct

for the fact that packages originating in the UK aren't likely to be checked (or at least weren't).

Have you heard about UK-origin packages being checked at sorting offices or something?
 
@Bleaney I'm not sure about the year thing - it's probably a sign that a certain site isn't used much and may be defunct
Yeah, but if it is still left up an running the operators are using it to rake in w/e cash they can. No way I'd ever use a site with a date more than 1 year old. Like you say it may be be defunct. But it could also be a scam site, or non professional, or something else (eg. they can't be arsed to pay to get their year updated etc).
 
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Could be anything. Could be even Nigerian style of weeding out everyone but those who’ll surely fall for a scam. You know, those who would somehow figuring out scammer after like 5 mails or something are rather deterred right a way.
 
I got some galenikan ksalol 1 mg yesterday, took two and I am still on them, like 18 hours later, lol wonder what stuff they have put in them really.
Was this supposed to be Alprazolam?

Going by the samples submitted to Wedinos over the last few weeks, a good amount, about 60% (which is a lot more than a while ago) have actually been analysed to be genuine Alprazolam.

That still leaves around 40% turning out to be either Flualprazolam or Bromazolam though.

Fakery rates for Diazepam have seemed to be even worse, but I've not checked again very recently.

This is why I'm sticking to Clonazepam right now. I have no idea why, but it seems to be the one benzo that is not getting faked right now. THe market seems to be flooded with Galenika Rivotril Clonazepam, but of all samples of this being submitted to Wedinos, dozens upon dozens of them - they are all coming back as genuine.
 
yea it was supposed to be alpro
It also had this strong head-clanging feel that I commonly attribute just to clonazepam and pretty much nothing else.
It has also been like 4 months since I have had benzo last time.
 
I've never seen clonazepam being used to fake alprazolam on Wedinos. That wouldn't make sense. It seems to be nearly always RC benzos that are used for making the fakes.
 
yep, either my tolerance is finally in baseline, they are damn strong alpro or they are some RC stuff
Rivotril is pretty rare over here in Finland, some kind of monopoly is delivering almost exclusively ksalol or something and prices got fucked same time that happened, so it would make no sense to not press rivo films.
It tastes no clonazepam, mostly just bitter.
 
Mulliken-barker test makes it EASY test for an aromatic -NO2 moiety so harder to fake. Nitrazolam and flunitrazolam (about to become the H of the new generation) WILL test positive.
 
I clean forgot / didn't think about / felt no need for benzos yesterday, and so I didn't take any.

Nothing terrible happened, no inability to sleep all night, and no rebound anxiety.

I was pleasantly surprised when I realised this morning what had happened. I presume that I must have Etizolam to thank for this, because in theory, so the science says, you're not meant to be able to take benzos daily for months on end, almost certainly at least a year or 2 of continual daily use, and just stop with no consequences.

I was on the equivalent of 20mg of diazepam too. Although that's not a massively high dose, it could no longer be called a small dose either.

I'm just going to take things day by day for the time being and see how things go. Yesterday may have been a fluke, but it seems that I may be fortunate enough not to need to taper down, and that I can still just have days off easily enough.
 
I'm just going to take things day by day for the time being and see how things go. Yesterday may have been a fluke, but it seems that I may be fortunate enough not to need to taper down, and that I can still just have days off easily enough.

Well, look for physical symptoms and try to ignore any mental ones. The common nay usual effect of benzodiazepine withdrawal is anxiety but one should REALLY watch out when myoclonic jerks kick in. They tend to strike the arms and legs first. When I first developed them I had no idea what was happening. I went to my doctor and was prescribed... clobazam. Now I KNEW it was I had been taking too much clonazepam for way too long but wasn't going to say so. But the clobazam did help... It takes the edge off the anxiety but the key thing is, you won't have a seizure.

Nobody would ever take clobazam for fun. It isn't fun. It also has a ceiling effect which equates to about 20mg of diazepam a day but it IS much safer.
 
Well, look for physical symptoms and try to ignore any mental ones. The common nay usual effect of benzodiazepine withdrawal is anxiety but one should REALLY watch out when myoclonic jerks kick in. They tend to strike the arms and legs first. When I first developed them I had no idea what was happening. I went to my doctor and was prescribed... clobazam. Now I KNEW it was I had been taking too much clonazepam for way too long but wasn't going to say so. But the clobazam did help... It takes the edge off the anxiety but the key thing is, you won't have a seizure.

Nobody would ever take clobazam for fun. It isn't fun. It also has a ceiling effect which equates to about 20mg of diazepam a day but it IS much safer.
When I was on really high doses of benzos during the legal high years, I did notice some twitching and physical discomfort and definitely feeling 'not right' during long stim binges when I had not taken any benzos for much longer than was normal for me at that time. I can now put that down to likely being sub-seizure / mild myoclonic jerks.

Fortunately this time, I don't think any physical dependency, if it exists at all, is anywhere near is severe, due to me having been taking much lower doses and for less continuous time.

But yes you are right that I should not dismiss this aspect out of hand, and should taper down to be safe.

Since my main anxiety issues are related to social anxiety rather than general anxiety, I sometimes don't really have any noticeable anxiety when I'm staying in and not seeing anyone, or only having low-stakes social interaction (supermarket cashiers etc.) My main issue with quitting benzos when not having to be social is definitely the rebound insomnia. I have tried another day without benzos since my post above and I couldn't sleep for the life of me the second time. Maybe it was because I was very much conscious of the fact that I'd had no benzos the second time. Unlike the first time when it never crossed my mind and I slept fine. This does suggest some kind of psychological aspect to the whole thing.

But there has been no sign of any twitching or any associated symptoms on both benzo free days, so I do think any physical dependency is very minimal this time round. But yeah, like I say I will taper down rather than just try to stop cold turkey, both for safety's sake, and hopefully it will help my brain begin to adjust to falling asleep without the aid of benzos.

I know it can be a very long and slow process for the brain to start adjusting to no benzos.
 
Anyone of the experienced users here have any information on Bromazolam?

Just bought 20 MSJs, then checked Wedinos and it seems since March 2023 mostly all MSJs in the UK test results are showing Bromazolam as the active compound.

Had 5 an hour ago and feel quite mellow. Bit of muscle relaxation. So far I'm thinking I'm preferring the effect off this to Etizolam.

Should probably have done the re search on Bromaz prior to consuming..
 
Anyone of the experienced users here have any information on Bromazolam?

Just bought 20 MSJs, then checked Wedinos and it seems since March 2023 mostly all MSJs in the UK test results are showing Bromazolam as the active compound.

Had 5 an hour ago and feel quite mellow. Bit of muscle relaxation. So far I'm thinking I'm preferring the effect off this to Etizolam.

Should probably have done the re search on Bromaz prior to consuming..
It's an analogue of Alprazolam and chemically similar to it, so you'd expect the effects and duration etc to be somewhat similar.

I ended up with Bromozolam when I had tried to order Alprazolam a few months ago, however they didn't feel similar to me. For some reason I couldn't really notice any definite effects at the time of taking them, and I felt very out of it the next day, very tired and brain fogged and lethargic. I'm not sure if there were some other impurities in that batch or quite what was going on. Normally on genuine Aplrazolam I get a very good nights sleep, as the duration and effects on sleep are perfect for getting about 8 hours of good quality REM sleep and so waking up the next day feeling refreshed and fresh. But that was definitely not the case with that batch of fakes I got sent. I don't know if it was the batch or me. I did try them on 2 or 3 different occasions and each time it was the same. So they definitely did not agree with me, for unknown reasons. But those will now be kept just as an absolute last resort just in case I run out of all other benzos for w/e reason.

However, many other people I've seen posting about Bromazolam on this thread have said that they quite like it, so I think it probably should be OK for most people, even if it wasn't what you actually ordered and paid for.
 
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Anyone of the experienced users here have any information on Bromazolam?

Just bought 20 MSJs, then checked Wedinos and it seems since March 2023 mostly all MSJs in the UK test results are showing Bromazolam as the active compound.

Had 5 an hour ago and feel quite mellow. Bit of muscle relaxation. So far I'm thinking I'm preferring the effect off this to Etizolam.

Should probably have done the re search on Bromaz prior to consuming..

It's identical to alprazolam (Xanax).
 
All those using Diaz from the uk black market (because drs won't script it anymore even if dependant...), what brand has most consistent for you? recently its Martins Dows or Loghmans for me. Bensedins seem to be diaz but not sure if they are 10mg.
 
All those using Diaz from the uk black market (because drs won't script it anymore even if dependant...), what brand has most consistent for you? recently its Martins Dows or Loghmans for me. Bensedins seem to be diaz but not sure if they are 10mg.
The best thing to do would be to look up Diazepam on Wedinos. That way you could go through all the Diazepam that was submitted to them recently and see what it has been testing as.

Most submissions include a photo of the blister pack.

That's probably going to be a far better picture of the state of affairs than the couple of random member replies you might get to your post.
 
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