Recoveringinvega
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Was this the period of time after their last injection or after the invega was out of their system?
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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0
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Recoveringinvega
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Are most people skinny or lean and satifisfied with their weight and looks? I know I keep asking
you took 6 injections, how the hell is that not a long term use of APs. Moreover, injections stay in your system for more than pills, so 6x2months equals 1 year of use!
Minimum
But she recovered? What are you trying to say
I took 10 injections, and I've lost 4kg in 1 month with diet and exercise. You are consuming more calories than you burn without knowing you need to eat very little and drink alot of water if you wanna lose weight Invega hasnt messed up the way I lose weight
But is this reversabile? Brain can heal it self as far as neuordoctor told me
No, dead neurons cannot regenerate. Neurons are specialized cells of the nervous system that are responsible for transmitting electrical and chemical signals. Unlike many other cells in the body, neurons typically do not undergo cell division to replace or regenerate themselves. Once neurons die, they are not replaced by new neurons in most areas of the brain and spinal cord.
However, it's important to note that the brain does have some limited capacity for neural repair and adaptation. In certain regions, neighboring neurons or glial cells may compensate for the loss of function by assuming some of the roles of the damaged neurons. This process is known as neural plasticity.
In some cases, neurogenesis (the generation of new neurons) can occur in certain regions of the brain, such as the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory. However, this process primarily occurs in specific circumstances, such as during embryonic development, early postnatal development, and in certain regions of the adult brain that are associated with learning and memory.
Overall, while the brain has some capacity for repair and adaptation, dead neurons themselves do not regenerate.
The growth of gray matter in the brain, specifically in terms of generating new neurons (neurogenesis), is a topic of ongoing research and debate in the field of neuroscience. Traditionally, it was believed that neurogenesis mainly occurred during early development and ceased in adulthood. However, more recent studies have provided evidence that neurogenesis can occur in specific regions of the adult brain, such as the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory.
The process of neurogenesis in the adult brain is complex and regulated by various factors, including environmental stimuli, physical activity, and certain pharmacological agents. However, it's important to note that neurogenesis is a relatively slow and limited process compared to other tissues in the body, and the extent to which it contributes to the growth of gray matter and functional recovery is still being investigated.
Additionally, while neurogenesis can occur in specific regions, it does not necessarily imply a complete restoration of lost or damaged tissue. The newly generated neurons need to integrate into existing neural circuits and undergo appropriate synaptic connections to become fully functional.
In summary, while there is evidence of neurogenesis occurring in specific regions of the adult brain, the extent to which it contributes to the growth of gray matter and functional recovery is still an area of active research
The effect of antipsychotic medications on brain volume is a complex and ongoing area of research. Some studies have suggested that long-term use of certain antipsychotics may be associated with a decrease in brain volume, particularly in specific regions such as the cortex. However, it is important to note that the relationship between antipsychotic use and brain volume changes is not fully understood, and more research is needed to determine the precise mechanisms and clinical implications.
Regarding reversibility, the available evidence suggests that some brain volume changes associated with antipsychotic use may be reversible upon discontinuation of the medication. In some cases, brain volume may partially recover or stabilize after cessation of antipsychotics. However, the extent and rate of reversibility can vary among individuals, and not all volume changes may be completely reversible.
However, it's important to note that the brain does have some limited capacity for neural repair and adaptation. In certain regions, neighboring neurons or glial cells may compensate for the loss of function by assuming some of the roles of the damaged neurons. This process is known as neural plasticity.
In some cases, neurogenesis (the generation of new neurons) can occur in certain regions of the brain, such as the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory. However, this process primarily occurs in specific circumstances, such as during embryonic development, early postnatal development, and in certain regions of the adult brain that are associated with learning and memory.
Overall, while the brain has some capacity for repair and adaptation, dead neurons themselves do not regenerate.
The growth of gray matter in the brain, specifically in terms of generating new neurons (neurogenesis), is a topic of ongoing research and debate in the field of neuroscience. Traditionally, it was believed that neurogenesis mainly occurred during early development and ceased in adulthood. However, more recent studies have provided evidence that neurogenesis can occur in specific regions of the adult brain, such as the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory.
The process of neurogenesis in the adult brain is complex and regulated by various factors, including environmental stimuli, physical activity, and certain pharmacological agents. However, it's important to note that neurogenesis is a relatively slow and limited process compared to other tissues in the body, and the extent to which it contributes to the growth of gray matter and functional recovery is still being investigated.
Additionally, while neurogenesis can occur in specific regions, it does not necessarily imply a complete restoration of lost or damaged tissue. The newly generated neurons need to integrate into existing neural circuits and undergo appropriate synaptic connections to become fully functional.
In summary, while there is evidence of neurogenesis occurring in specific regions of the adult brain, the extent to which it contributes to the growth of gray matter and functional recovery is still an area of active research
The effect of antipsychotic medications on brain volume is a complex and ongoing area of research. Some studies have suggested that long-term use of certain antipsychotics may be associated with a decrease in brain volume, particularly in specific regions such as the cortex. However, it is important to note that the relationship between antipsychotic use and brain volume changes is not fully understood, and more research is needed to determine the precise mechanisms and clinical implications.
Regarding reversibility, the available evidence suggests that some brain volume changes associated with antipsychotic use may be reversible upon discontinuation of the medication. In some cases, brain volume may partially recover or stabilize after cessation of antipsychotics. However, the extent and rate of reversibility can vary among individuals, and not all volume changes may be completely reversible.
Kaatrina
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You know what else reduces gray matter?
Phone, Drug and alcohol use
It's not as bad as you and rulomaner are making it sound
Please stop scaring people for no reason
8 months is not long term. The studies that showed reduction in gray matter for long term ap use classified it as 5 years or more.
Yes, it is. Don't listen to the guy who is quoting chatGPT as chat GPT can be wildly innacurate. A quick Google search shows that you can increase gray matter
How old are you?
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It's the period of time after their last injection. It's hard to determine when inveega actually leaves the system.
Most recovered people don't come here too often to answer every question, but most o read about and myself were able to recover their pre-invega weight and looks
Recoveringinvega
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I appreciate the reply and I'm happy that you"ve regained yourself. Anyone else willing to share their story regarding their weight and appearance would be lovely
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Please let this go @Baddream You are entitled to your opinion but there is a lot of scientific evidence that supports what the others are saying. Please, to avoid further bickering and negativity in the thread can you let this topic of discussion go. Thank you.
I would strongly advise against doing that, as that is what Merek was doing immediately before he disappeared. Just try to stay healthy, please.
Mental illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are not just labels, they are very well studied and extensively documented, and REAL conditions. You are entitled to your opinion, but many people all over the world really do live with these very real conditions.
Thank you once again for posting this list
It brings relief to those who need to see it. I appreciate it every time you post it. I am so sorry you feel this way. I completely agree, and I don't know what's in the water in this thread lately but a lot of people are feeling quite frustrated, desperate, short-fused, irritable, and with that comes feelings of anger and combativeness, which leads to disagreements and arguing. This comes and goes in these Invega threads, it's just the nature of the struggles that you guys are going through. But it ebbs and flows, and I dearly hope you come back when the thread has settled down again. I really enjoy your posts
Please read what I said above, it's not like this all the time. A lot of the time this thread contains a LOT of support and positivity. But unfortunately it can sometimes go the other way. It seems like this is one of those times. I really hope you stick around and ride it out for when the mood lifts a bit once again. I've enjoyed your presence here so farThis site saddens me to see all of the negativity
it’s really becoming a not so great experience in my opinion. I truly wish all of you the best!
I am almost certain you didn't type all of that out yourself. In the future if you are quoting articles can you please put it in quotation marks and add the source link of the article, thank you.
I have had to do A LOT of cleaning up of posts in this thread over the last few days, and I would like to remind you all that the purpose of this thread is to provide each other with support, GOOD advice, and encouragement for getting through Invega withdrawals. We are all on the same team here, and should be helping each other through the Invega hell, NOT arguing with each other over petty things and bickering back and forth about trivial things.
I would also like to remind you all that if you see a post that you find offensive for any reason please REPORT IT by clicking the "Report" button in the lower left corner of the offending post, and then let the staff take care of it. Please avoid taking the matter in to your own hands by continuing to argue with the other member within this thread, as it just creates the negative environment that we have been experiencing the last week or so. If anyone ever has any concerns or questions about anything in this thread (or anything else on the site, for that matter) please feel free to inbox me or any other staff member any time. We are here to help. Thank you.
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Mod edited my comment but I just want to reiterate to anyone worried about those saying that MRIs would show that your brain has shrunk after invega -
1. No studies show that short term AP use shrinks gray matter. If you were on imvega for months or even a few years this is not a concern for you.
2. Many factors can indicate that you could have a higher volume of gray matter compared to others to begin with
3. Many activities can "shrink the brain". Phone addiction, Drug use, and other activities reduce gray matter. It's reversible and it's not some scary permanent thing only caused by this injection
4. If you want to increase your gray matter there are many things you can do like cardio exercise, meditation, or even eating fish.
Many people affected by invega are scared of being permanently changed by the drug or not being able to reverse its debilitating effects. This is not the case. Invega is not like Koopas machine that turns criminals into Goomba in the Mario Bros movie. it is all reversible and you WILL return to baseline over time.
1. No studies show that short term AP use shrinks gray matter. If you were on imvega for months or even a few years this is not a concern for you.
2. Many factors can indicate that you could have a higher volume of gray matter compared to others to begin with
3. Many activities can "shrink the brain". Phone addiction, Drug use, and other activities reduce gray matter. It's reversible and it's not some scary permanent thing only caused by this injection
4. If you want to increase your gray matter there are many things you can do like cardio exercise, meditation, or even eating fish.
Many people affected by invega are scared of being permanently changed by the drug or not being able to reverse its debilitating effects. This is not the case. Invega is not like Koopas machine that turns criminals into Goomba in the Mario Bros movie. it is all reversible and you WILL return to baseline over time.
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Damn I hope so. I feel permanently altered. The drug affected me in an extremely powerful way, it hijacked my entire brain. Are you certain the brain damage i received can recover? My brain feels slow, i have memory problems, its hard to form sentences and I can’t speak to people anymore
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Almost everyone that was injected experiences the same thing as you are. The bad news is that it take a long time to recover, but the good news is that within 9-12 months you will start to feel improvements on these things and. Can believe in and measure your recovery for yourself once you experience it at that time. Many, many people have recovered and you can be confident in it
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Not at all. I can’t seem to lose weight. It is not as simple as “having a calorie deficit,” such as some people on this forum suggest. I eat
Egg whites and wheat oatmeal for breakfast
Grilled chicken, sweet potatoes and vegetables for lunch and dinner
No sweet and no sodas
I also have been working out 6 days a week for 3 months.
I have gained 27 lbs since taking invega and have not lost a single pound. I was an avid CrossFit guy. I was 155lbs, could run 8 miles a day and had a 8%-9% body fat. Now I am flab.
Again, to reiterate what the senior mod said, we're here for each other, not to sow dissent. Please be kind. It shouldn't be too much to ask. We're all people.
As for weight, I found that it was more a matter of bearing uncomfortable cravings than in scrutinizing what I eat. I still have far to go, but that idea has worked for me in the past.
As for weight, I found that it was more a matter of bearing uncomfortable cravings than in scrutinizing what I eat. I still have far to go, but that idea has worked for me in the past.
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I sincerely hope that everything you wrote is correct. I've lost my very, very hard-earned ability to write novels and it's devastating. Before Xeplion I was a completely different person who looked forward to life, and now every second is a life and death struggle for me.
Xeplione 150 mg + 100 + 100 + 100, last in March. I am currently taking Xanax for 2 months, Zoloft for 5 years, Quetiapine 200 mg for 6 months, Aripiprazol 10 mg for 2 months.
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