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RFK on Joe Rogan talking about the covid vaccine (and other things)


There's also an on-going Twitter spat right now between Joe Rogan (and Elon) and Peter Hotez, where Joe has openly invited Peter to come debate the covid vaccine with RFK with an offer of $100,000 (to be donated to charity of his choice).. which has been bumped up with donations to $1+ million now.

It's pretty hilarious to watch this unfold, with Peter squirming. As always with these pharma shills they talk up a big game but when it actually comes to direct confrontation, when they don't have a one-dimensional channel i.e. propaganda to operate through, they just deflect or go silent.. because they know as soon as they open their mouths in an actual discussion where a person can talk back that they will immediately have to concede e.g vaccine adverse events, and then it's all down hill from there.

Naturally the dialogue didn't take long to descend into accusations of 'conspiracy theorist' :LOL:
 
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RFK on Joe Rogan talking about the covid vaccine (and other things)


There's also an on-going Twitter spat right now between Joe Rogan (and Elon) and Peter Hotez, where Joe has openly invited Peter to come debate the covid vaccine with RFK with an offer of $100,000 (to be donated to charity of his choice).. which has been bumped up with donations to $1+ million now.

It's pretty hilarious to watch this unfold, with Peter squirming. As always with these pharma shills they talk up a big game but when it actually comes to direct confrontation, when they don't have a one-dimensional channel i.e. propaganda to operate through, they just deflect or go silent.. because they know as soon as they open their mouths in an actual discussion where a person can talk back that they will immediately have to concede e.g vaccine adverse events, and then it's all down hill from there.

Naturally the dialogue didn't take long to descend into accusations of 'conspiracy theorist' :LOL:
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Their little cult can’t debate since the facts aren’t in their side, mercantilism doesn’t supersede facts. Well it does for their cult, but not for the free thinking.
 
nepalnt21 said:
what are these mysterious objects they've got the genetic sequence for and have isolated in sick people?


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I think van Gogh painted that180 yrs ago ...
 
Whoever could have predicted the mountains of unused overpriced PPE and plastic waste? :unsure: Thankfully we have lots of handy unused places to dump it all in, like forests, nature reserves and such forth...

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www.telegraph.co.uk

‘Mountain’ of unused PPE dumped in nature reserve

Locals react in ‘horror’ after the ‘large scale’ discovery of aprons abandoned in the countryside
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
CFC said:
Whoever could have predicted the mountains of unused overpriced PPE and plastic waste? :unsure: Thankfully we have lots of handy unused places to dump it all in, like forests, nature reserves and such forth...

TELEMMGLPICT000339737486_16871188095500.jpeg


www.telegraph.co.uk

‘Mountain’ of unused PPE dumped in nature reserve

Locals react in ‘horror’ after the ‘large scale’ discovery of aprons abandoned in the countryside
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
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It’s called progress chud. Wait for the batteries we send them, after the green grift goes into full action.
 
This is how you make a landscape covid secure 👍

That's some serious quantity though. Way more than some chav grifter who thought they could make a buck. This is more like some upper class twat with land holdings and with inside connections to the conservative party or government structure, who didn't consider the fact he'd be in the market with other upper class twats also looking to scam the government/public.
 
TLDR (sorry, I know it's so annoying when you spend ages on something and people reply with that, but yeah)

Even if people have died from the vaccine, it's not even a tiny fraction of a single percent of the numbers that have died from the virus,
Plus, people have died from everything, including water and vitamins.
 
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This is how you make a landscape covid secure 👍

That's some serious quantity though. Way more than some chav grifter who thought they could make a buck. This is more like some upper class twat with land holdings and with inside connections to the conservative party or government structure, who didn't consider the fact he'd be in the market with other upper class twats also looking to scam the government/public.
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For sure. It'll be on the same level of corruption as the Michelle Mone PPE scandal, maybe even larger. Turns out a pandemic is a great way to siphon £200bn from taxpayers into the coffers of Tory cronies.
 
nepalnt21 said:
it's pretty sad that a presidential candidate is spreading this obvious and easily refutable horse malarkey... but after that last guy, i guess i shouldn't be surprised about anything
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^if it's so "obvious and easily refutable", why doesn't he accept the offer? $100K (now allegedly a million) to charity AND the chance to further prove that vaccines are God's gift to humanity.
He won't do it because he's like you, completely full of shit and ignorant. It's easy to say words but it's a bit harder to prove that you know what you're talking about.

Nobody will debate RFK Jr on vaccines because he knows more about the actual science than any of these fucking losers.
And the actual science says they're fucking dangerous.

But we're dealing with a religion here and vaccines are a sacred cow.

(-=SS=- beat me to it)
 
wait wait, 100 thousand dollars to go on joe rogan's show and debate (which is always fucking stupid, because antivaxxers are clearly going to argue in bad faith, spew out malarkey as gish gallop so each point cannot POSSIBLY have time to be gone through unless the show is three days long and each person has time without being interrupted)... NOT 100 thousand dollars (or a million) to show that it's demonstrably false and silly to claim that the spanish flu was actually spread from a vaccine at a military base in kansas.

if it was thst easy to get a hundred thou or mil from old joe, i'd quit my job and get to work.
@JGrimez

mal3volent said:
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the current event of ppl clearly not dying en masse from the vaccine and if they were someone in this thread would have more than circumstantial evidence and sophistry?

i propose you do the obvious and honest thing and change it back to "conspiracy theory", but that's just me... i guess i have a higher standard for evidence than a chupacabra chaser, and i'll still call out the shenanigans when i see it, no matter the heading.
 
CFC said:
For sure. It'll be on the same level of corruption as the Michelle Mone PPE scandal, maybe even larger. Turns out a pandemic is a great way to siphon £200bn from taxpayers into the coffers of Tory cronies.
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Globally, the (so-called) pandemic has been the greatest upwards transfer of wealth in history. It has also wrecked national economies; in the more advanced economies it has now resulted in massive inflation, and in the poorer ones it has basically condemned many people to death principally by starvation. Not that we'll hear much about the latter, which demonstrates who is really in charge of our media and what their ideology is - all the poorer countries are just resources to be exploited.

Globally, in particular the EU and advanced economies, it was also parallel to what we saw post-9/11 where the military industrial complex got license to massively expand the surveillance architecture and infrastructure. This time around it is the biometric surveillance architecture, in the form of covid passes (the WHO is adopting the EU system, how convenient). This will hook into that post-9/11 five-eyes super structure, and soon enough also with CBDC's, the 'know your customer' database, and potentially a social credit score. This was one of the sub-agendas that gets overshadowed by the vaccine damage stuff.

It's all very convenient. 9/11 and covid. I'm reminded of the film 'Enemy of the State' (1998), where the main antagonist (NSA boss) has the birthday 9/11/40, and earlier in the film there is a scene where the TV is showing a CNN talk segment where the person says, "and freedom have always existed in a in a very precarious balance, and when buildings start blowing up, people's priorities change.". Coincidence? Foreshadowing? Mockery? Insider warning? Who knows.

I really don't think it's that unreasonable to believe these major events are conspiracies in service of an overarching agenda. But that's just me.
 
nepalnt21 said:
wait wait, 100 thousand dollars to go on joe rogan's show and debate (which is always fucking stupid, because antivaxxers are clearly going to argue in bad faith, spew out malarkey as gish gallop so each point cannot POSSIBLY have time to be gone through unless the show is three days long and each person has time without being interrupted)... NOT 100 thousand dollars (or a million) to show that it's demonstrably false and silly to claim that the spanish flu was actually spread from a vaccine at a military base in kansas.

if it was thst easy to get a hundred thou or mil from old joe, i'd quit my job and get to work.
@JGrimez


the current event of ppl clearly not dying en masse from the vaccine and if they were someone in this thread would have more than circumstantial evidence and sophistry?

i propose you do the obvious and honest thing and change it back to "conspiracy theory", but that's just me... i guess i have a higher standard for evidence than a chupacabra chaser, and i'll still call out the shenanigans when i see it, no matter the heading.
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calm down hun , it's just a prefix

respect my prefix
 
it's tough to remain calm when the disinfo/ misinfo antivaxxers spread is actually contributing to widespread harm and/ or death.

but the prefix thing, it's annoying for me when things are innaccurate, but i'm just exuding the snark. cheers!
 
nepalnt21 said:
it's tough to remain calm when the disinfo/ misinfo antivaxxers spread is actually contributing to widespread harm and/ or death.

but the prefix thing, it's annoying for me when things are innaccurate, but i'm just exuding the snark. cheers!
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dont we all know that the vaccines were kind of a sham now though? Like, maybe they helped some super old people really early on, but for the rest of us it was just bullshit right?

I mean come on, they changed their story a hundred times over the past 3 years.
 
maybe you could make your case? i don't think it's a "sham" or "bullshit" to have your symptoms reduced to the point where you're not going to die unless you're like super old

@mal3volent
 
mal3volent said:
dont we all know that the vaccines were kind of a sham now though? Like, maybe they helped some super old people really early on, but for the rest of us it was just bullshit right?
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The data actually demonstrated really early on that covid was not an issue for anyone under the age of 60 (at least). The average age of mortality in the UK, which has a relatively high percentage elderly population, is 81.7.. and the average age of mortality from (of? lmao) covid was higher than that!

The mainstream data itself clearly indicated that no one under the age of 60 need even bother with a vaccine. By all metrics this was just a different flavour of "flu". The overwhelming majority of people would be just fine relying on their own health.

It was clearly a scam. Honestly there is no point in trying to sway anyone who can't see it at this point, they're never going to change their mind, and for whatever reason their ego is just refusing to concede to the humiliation of having been scammed.
 
nepalnt21 said:
maybe you could make your case? i don't think it's a "sham" or "bullshit" to have your symptoms reduced to the point where you're not going to die unless you're like super old

@mal3volent
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that wasn't the story at first though was it? They got countless numbers of people to take them because they promised it would PREVENT us from getting sick. Then eventually when that didn't happen it was well you might get sick but not as bad as if you didn't. Now we know that's not really true either.
 
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