Delmonte421
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yea but I always wondered what freed raccoon tastes like........ you're are a chef LOL
🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine
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Psychestim
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Agree, 18mg 4-HO-MiPT + 40mg MXPr was one of the most ecstatic and pleasurable highs up to date. The euphoria was insane and I basically did nothing but lie on my couch for a couple hours.
arrall
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My life's motto right there.
Xorkoth
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DUDE! CONGRATS!! Seriously, this makes me so happy to hear you say this!
And it also gives me hope. I know that you and I have had a similar struggle... and I'm turning 40 in a week, and have been feeling pretty... I guess just scared, mostly, that I find myself here, stuck on suboxone, years into a relapse after 5 years clean where I KNEW I was done for good. But your story is helping me to remember that it's entirely possible, and that I WILL get free again. 
And besides how it relates to me and my struggle... I just wanted to say, awesome job, way to go, and I'm really proud of you.
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I have more to say on the matter when I pull my thoughts together in a day or 2 but I just wanted to let you know how much your support means to me. It's definitely a question of mind over matter. It can be more difficult to will oneself to long-term sobriety for a 2nd or 3rd time but it doesn't have to be so for the bark is often harsher than the bite.DUDE! CONGRATS!! Seriously, this makes me so happy to hear you say this!
And besides how it relates to me and my struggle... I just wanted to say, awesome job, way to go, and I'm really proud of you.
All of my ORT experience is with methadone but it's all relative when it comes to opioids with a long half life. In the end it's all a marathon mindset and with enough patience and discipline one should be able to mitigate most of the withdrawal.
I however lack both patience and discipline so I always abruptly rip the chord. It's my 4th time fully withdrawing from methadone and if I can do it anybody can and not because I'm a hardcore addict who's quantifiable addiction is so much more hardcore than other opiod addicts but because I'm an especially weak addict who has constantly relapsed over a 25yr period simply because I can scarcely bare to face life without.
Thanks for the support Xork. I'll share more wealth on the subject when I have a bit better grasp on success and the means in which I arrived but we've done this before my friend and we can do it again.
somnilicious
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DUDE! CONGRATS!! Seriously, this makes me so happy to hear you say this!
And besides how it relates to me and my struggle... I just wanted to say, awesome job, way to go, and I'm really proud of you.
Thanks brother......
I have more to say on the matter when I pull my thoughts together in a day or 2 but I just wanted to let you know how much your support means to me. It's definitely a question of mind over matter. It can be more difficult to will oneself to long-term sobriety for a 2nd or 3rd time but it doesn't have to be so for the bark is often harsher than the bite.
All of my ORT experience is with methadone but it's all relative when it comes to opioids with a long half life. In the end it's all a marathon mindset and with enough patience and discipline one should be able to mitigate most of the withdrawal. I however lack both patience and discipline so I always abruptly rip the chord.
It's my 4th time fully withdrawing from methadone and if I can do it anybody can and not because I'm a hardcore addict who's quantifiable addiction is so much more hardcore than other opiod addicts but because I'm an especially weak addict who has constantly relapsed over a 25yr period simply because I can scarcely bare to face life without.
Thanks for the support Xork. I'll share more wealth(wealth being a generously used term) on the subject when I have a bit better grasp on success and the means in which I arrived. We've done this before my friend and we can do it again.
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swilow
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Your posts give me hope @somnilicious I'm shit at tapering myself and have just basically sat on the same semi steady 2-3mg bupe dose for a few years. I actually describe myself as tapering but its essentially wishful thinking. I'm just sick of waking up and feeling anxious- although it's mild anxiety, it's only relieved by bupe and that sucks to me. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna simply tear the band aid off soon and dive into the abyss.
Anyway, Wednesday morning thoughts- I wonder what would happen if one were to take say 20% of a full dose of 5 different 2c-x chemicals at once. Some sort of Frankenstein trip, or just lots of mild annoyance. Surely someone has done this very scientific drug eating experiment.
Anyway, Wednesday morning thoughts- I wonder what would happen if one were to take say 20% of a full dose of 5 different 2c-x chemicals at once. Some sort of Frankenstein trip, or just lots of mild annoyance. Surely someone has done this very scientific drug eating experiment.
Xorkoth
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Thanks brother, you're right, we both can do it again (and swilow, too).
Last time I did an ibogaine flood dose and it truly was a miracle, it rearranged my subconscious mind and even though I felt minor withdrawals coming out of it, I had zero desireto do opiates... the very idea seemed like the definition of insanity to me. And continued to for 5 years. I am afraid to do it again though, because my two mentors both did it again after relapsing and had traumatic experiences they refused to go into detail about and they both died soon after, strongly (strongly) suspected suicide. So... yeah, there couldn't be a stronger reason to think maybe I need to do it all on my own this time.
Opiate withdrawal is just so... fuck I hate it. I become unable to do anything, and I have a very high-functioning job and also am in a band that plays shows and I can't play for shit either, basically I just curl up into a fetal position and sit in hot showers... as my oldest friend puts it, I become "a cold bitch" (as in, I feel cold and also feel like a weak and useless person). Last time I tried to go cold turkey, 2 days in my boss was asking me what was wrong with me. Actually, that was the time before, the last time, I rented a cabin in the woods, and me and my friend stayed there with no cars, for a month, and worked out a ton, and hiked and talked and played music when we felt a little better. It was actually amazing, but taking all my vacation time in one "vacation" was difficult to do.
Anyway, excuses, I know... but nothing makes me feel more hopeless and weak and pathetic than opiate withdrawal.
My plan is to keep tapering suboxone until I get to a microscopic amount and then jump off, and hope it's not too bad. Right now, I'm crushing the pills and mixing it into a homogenous powder, and weighing it with my milligram scale. I'm actually stuck at 120mg twice per day (about 5mg total per day), but it's just been an intense couple of months. My plan, ultimately, is to reduce by 1mg of pill powder per dose, daily or every 2 days. Seems like there's no way I'd notice the difference, especially since I feel nothing from suboxone whatsoever anymore. I just need to convince my suboxone doctor to keep me with the pills... he is trying to get me to switch to the strips for going below 8mg, because they're easier to cut... I am kinda nervous about telling him I'm crushing the pills to weigh them with my milligram scale. But honestly I hate the strips, they don't seem to work as well for me, plus the crushing and weighing method seems like it will work WAY better for reducing/tapering.
Same for me, I often will wonder why I'm feeling anxious and weird, and then I'll realize I forgot to take my suboxone (I divide the dose in half and take half when I wake up and half 12 hours later, but I often forget about the nighttime dose, I have even forgotten entirely before when I was hanging out/partying with friends, that is, until the morning when I'm actually withdrawing and not just feeling off). I like that I am not obsessed with it and there couldn't be less desire to take more to try to get high... getting high from opiates is something that I don't even think about. I sometimes wish I was on methadone so I could actually get some sort of ice feelings from my maintenance, but I think feeling nothing (except lack of withdrawal) is beneficial to me. But yeah, it's weird. I'm nearly 100% certain I have low testosterone from it, in fact I think that's likely part of why I don't feel very good, like mostly ever. I actually have an appointment with a hormone doctor next week about it.
I don't think I've ever combined more than 2 of them. I will say, 2C-E seems to overpower everything for me. I even combined it with MDMA once, and detected nothing but 2C-E.
My guess would be that it would be enjoyable, but would muddy it so that the unique characteristics of each would be harder to find.
Also, the 2C-Xs are all basically chemical gold nowadays, except for 2C-B which is always available. No one makes them anymore.
swilow
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I've noticed the scarcity of 2C-X and with great sadness. I would love to stock up on 2C-D again, one of the loveliest chemicals I've known. I think i have a small amount but its turned into some sort of weird paste. And truth be told, I'm actually not 100% it is 2C-D. It could be DOC. One day I'll find out.
I actually threw away a gram or so of 2C-E a few years ago and deeply regret it. Why swilow why.
I actually threw away a gram or so of 2C-E a few years ago and deeply regret it. Why swilow why.
Dreamflyer
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My friend had raccoon when he lived down south and now he has the skull on his bookcase. It stares at me every time I'm over there!
I asked him if it tasted like chicken and he said, "No, it actually tasted like raccoon.".
cosmic charlie
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My daughters Mom made me throw away an entire RC collection once and im talking alot of stuff like around twenty-five different compounds, was worth thousands. Im such a dumb ass for staying with that controlling bitch for so many years. And yeah a gram of 2C-E was in there that i got for fifty bucks back then believe it or not, which is its.
Was actually this strange grey color not the purest stuff by a mile, but it worked great and was absolutely 2C-E. Some of the stuff wasnt a big deal like a bunch of different nBOMEs, maybe six or so diff JWHs. Few different APB's, 4-sub Tryptamines, AL-LAD and LSZ, fat bag of AceytlFentanyl...that one hurt.
Smaller amounts of different 2C-x. A bunch of MDPV which i had an issue with at the time and this actually led to the fight that made me have to get rid of all this stuff. Was staying up for half a week at a time and acting like a real weirdo.
simstim
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Hey guys and gals. Sorry I haven't been around as much as usual. I've had an interesting couple of weeks.
Last week I ate a ton of mushrooms all week and of course I had to have rolls with that so plenty of x. Other party favors have been around, too. I keep thc and my buddy keeps a little clear and we've been partying. It's been fun kicking it with my good buddy who I've known for almost twenty years.
Usually it's just me or me and my lady friend here getting high and hanging out. Oh, she tried mushrooms for the first time this weekend and she hippy flipped!! I think she liked it. It was a fun night.
Hopefully I can restock on mushrooms soon. I like having them around....
Last week I ate a ton of mushrooms all week and of course I had to have rolls with that so plenty of x. Other party favors have been around, too. I keep thc and my buddy keeps a little clear and we've been partying. It's been fun kicking it with my good buddy who I've known for almost twenty years.
Usually it's just me or me and my lady friend here getting high and hanging out. Oh, she tried mushrooms for the first time this weekend and she hippy flipped!! I think she liked it. It was a fun night.
Hopefully I can restock on mushrooms soon. I like having them around....
Xorkoth
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Ouch! That 2C-E loss hurts just to think about it happening to you.
My ex made me throw away my old stash, it pales in comparison to my current stash, which has over 80 compounds in it (maybe as many as 85-87 now, I lost count recently as I added quite a few), but it was still something that pained me greatly at the time and still somewhat does. I had a gram of 2C-B, some DOC, 2C-B-fly, 2C-I, 2C-T-2, all of which I have at least a bit of again now, but the worst of it was a half gram of DOM powder. I have some DOM now but it's just 15 x 2.5mg blotters.I hope you sample that mystery paste carefully when you get to it... DOC sure is a hell of a lot more potent than 2C-D!
swilow
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Alright, so you get to choose one no-longer-manufactured or rare psychedelic or dissociative to re-emerge. What do you choose?
I'm gonna say MXE to start with. I'd also like to try some of the ALEPH series. I don't actually know if they've ever really circulated. But I like the name...
I'm gonna say MXE to start with. I'd also like to try some of the ALEPH series. I don't actually know if they've ever really circulated. But I like the name...
Xorkoth
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Definitely MXE. Other than that... 2C-T-2, ALEPH-2, 4, or 7... oh, and 2C-EF and/or DOEF! I'd also like to try 2C-TFM and/or DOTFM.
You can't ask me to choose just one!
Probably 2C-EF or DOEF, honestly. of all of those. Either/or
You can't ask me to choose just one!
Probably 2C-EF or DOEF, honestly. of all of those. Either/or
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Xorkoth
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DiPT fascinates me so much. Truly unique, no other psychedelic does what it does. A few others (like 5-MeO-DiPT and, by some reports, very high doses of MiPT) produce some minor pitch shifting if dosed high enough, but DiPT is like a thousand times more powerful in that regard; its primary effect is distorting your hearing. It is truly like DMT for your ears, a full dose does stuff that is beyond description. Early Erowid reports almost all said that it had zero mental effects, but I strongly disagree and I think most everyone these days agrees with me.
A low dose will shift all pitches down to a greater and greater extent as the dose increases. But after a certain point, it starts to become far more than just pitch shifting. I described it in my DiPT report on Erowid (and here), not gonna try again right now. Suffice to say, it's well worth trying, if you can. Some have argued over the years that all of the psychedelics are mostly indistinguishable except for duration and such, I believe largely due to some early studies done where people were given psilocybin, LSD, or mescaline in a blind trial, and were unable to tell the difference (but huge caveat: they were psychedelic naïve, so duh). Well, DiPT shits on that theory. It is so wildly different from every other one (that we know about) that it's barely even comparable, and no one could ever claim that it isn't unique.
cosmic charlie
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Id probably choose 2C-EF or PRO-LAD.
If we are talking psychedelics that is both those are dreams of mine, got some of that 2C-EF years back that turned out to be just a mix of a bunch of 2C compounds. What a bummer that was.
If i had to choose a Dissociative it would most likely be PCE, you have know idea how jealous i was when i read about peoples trials with it last year. Ive done alot of regular PCP and it blows all the analogs of it out of the water.
Truly a top notch drug. And since MXE is so damn good i can only imagine its parent compound would be magical. If i ever got my hands on some of that stuff id be one of the happiest people on the planet.
If we are talking psychedelics that is both those are dreams of mine, got some of that 2C-EF years back that turned out to be just a mix of a bunch of 2C compounds. What a bummer that was.
If i had to choose a Dissociative it would most likely be PCE, you have know idea how jealous i was when i read about peoples trials with it last year. Ive done alot of regular PCP and it blows all the analogs of it out of the water.
Truly a top notch drug. And since MXE is so damn good i can only imagine its parent compound would be magical. If i ever got my hands on some of that stuff id be one of the happiest people on the planet.
arrall
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DiPT is still widely available on the gray market.