Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[Baddream]

I was very into fitness and eating healthy before invega. Im very surprised you’re doing as good as you are so early in recovery. I couldn’t work out at all until recently. Sat in my bed for 8 months. I used to be very into CrossFit and running. 8-9% body fat 5’9 and 150 lbs before. Now I’m probably 20% body fat at 180 lbs. Run about a mile a day. Workout pretty hard. No CrossFit though, just weight training. Eat egg whites and oatmeal for breakfast. Grilled chicken, rice and vegetables for other meals. Still not losing much weight or gaining muscle. Only been a month. How is your process going?

I’m more into powerlifying style workouts myself, problem is it doesn’t burn many calories. I used to run every other day, but during invega once a week. I also started to eat (and drink) more during my recovery ang gained a good 15kg over the past months. I will need to reverse this by abstaining from drinking beers and sticking to my diet. That has been the hardest part as I am so bored seeking relief.

Strengthwise I haven’t lost too much. But whats the point when I’m fatter. I need to get back into running more often. I walked alot during recovery, but it’s not enough. In my opinion, strength training is way easier than endurance, so props to you for running.

I will try sprinting tomorrow, see how that goes

 

[Baddream]

If it takes a person an estimated 7 half life’s to feel functional, you will be looking at an estimated 343 days (.93 years) to feel functional as 49 days times 7 half life’s equals 343 days.

The definition of functional will differ among the users. Interesting in itself I think. The drug haven’t disabeled me completely, but I struggle with some things I didn’t use to before. Also, the progress is gradual and you will be functional enough for alot of things before the drug is completely out of your system. As far as I know, anhedonia is the last side effect to disappear

 

[Invegaishell]

The definition of functional will differ among the users. Interesting in itself I think. The drug haven’t disabeled me completely, but I struggle with some things I didn’t use to before. Also, the progress is gradual and you will be functional enough for alot of things before the drug is completely out of your system. As far as I know, anhedonia is the last side effect to disappear

I agree with you 100% I was giving an estimate but I do agree some people it takes longer some people take shorter to be functional. I was speaking from my own personal experience.

 

[CrimsonThornX]

Hello everyone. What do you think is it possible to recover from this poison? How many of you have recovered?

I would say it's certainly possible to make a significant to major recovery in many aspects, apparently even fully for some people. It's difficult to say because it's dependant on multiple factors such as the amount of injections someone has taken or the way their bodies respond to it, although most people generally seem to have similar to identical negative side effects I've also noticed more uncommon issues like in my instance where it worsened my vision and made me go cross-eyed, specifically after the day I suffered a mini-stroke from invega. I said in a previous post that I've managed to recover greatly in many aspects, such as my ahnedonhia, akasthisia, overall energy levels, etc. So yeah I'd say I'm about 80% to 85% recovered so far.

 

[Invegaishell]

The definition of functional will differ among the users. Interesting in itself I think. The drug haven’t disabeled me completely, but I struggle with some things I didn’t use to before. Also, the progress is gradual and you will be functional enough for alot of things before the drug is completely out of your system. As far as I know, anhedonia is the last side effect to disappear

You also have to remember I did include phrases like “It’s different for everyone” and “Everyone is different” in that paragraph. You’re right, I made a mistake I should have said “it will probably take me an estimated 7 months to be functional.” I agree the healing is very gradual and anhedonia seems to be the last thing that leaves.

 

[Baddream]

I would say it's certainly possible to make a significant to major recovery in many aspects

I think it depends on what we define as functional. To the government, you are functional if you can work and pay taxes. To doctors, you are functional if you are not psychotic. To me, I am functional if I can keep my daily routine with work, fitness, socializing, laughing and motivation. That’s the goal with the medicine. But I hate invega and will try pills in the future. I just hope I don’t need them for life because I have issues with paranoia

 

[Baddream]

You also have to remember I did include phrases like “It’s different for everyone” and “Everyone is different” in that paragraph. You’re right, I made a mistake I should have said “it will probably take me an estimated 7 months to be functional.” I agree the healing is very gradual and anhedonia seems to be the last thing that leaves.

I’m not criticizing you brother, I think it was a great post

 

[roofmaan1]

I think it depends on what we define as functional. To the government, you are functional if you can work and pay taxes. To doctors, you are functional if you are not psychotic. To me, I am functional if I can keep my daily routine with work, fitness, socializing, laughing and motivation. That’s the goal with the medicine. But I hate invega and will try pills in the future. I just hope I don’t need them for life because I have issues with paranoiago

god can fix your paranoia!!

 

[CrimsonThornX]

Today I ran 10 km in the hot sun. Sweating feels amazing. Tomorrow I will do some sprints on the treadmill and finish off with some walking on an incline. Anybody else into fitness? How is it going?

Sounds good, anyways yes I'm also into fitness in general. Prior to invega I used to weigh 193 pounds and was only considered slightly overweight for someone of my height ( 6' 1 feet ), I was also very health-oriented and strict on my workout routines as well as what I consumed while trying to remain on a calorie deficit. Then the whole unfortunate circumstance where I got injected with invega happened and once I realized I could no longer sleep properly, lost all motivation, and felt very weak I completely gave up on my health for about 4 or so months. During that period of time I gained a whole 60 or so pounds to the point where I now weigh around 250 pounds and am now obese. Once I regained the ability to sleep normally, had somewhat cleared anhedonhia, and more energy I decided to return to the gym and gradually try to work my way up to where I used to be, since I also lack the strength I once had, and continued to eat in moderation. My primary focus before was to gain muscle mass, now my priority is just to burn off as much fat as possible.

 

[bojana]

f them peace out from this forum after

I would say it's certainly possible to make a significant to major recovery in many aspects, apparently even fully for some people. It's difficult to say because it's dependant on multiple factors such as the amount of injections someone has taken or the way their bodies respond to it, although most people generally seem to have similar to identical negative side effects I've also noticed more uncommon issues like in my instance where it worsened my vision and made me go cross-eyed, specifically after the day I suffered a mini-stroke from invega. I said in a previous post that I've managed to recover greatly in many aspects, such as my ahnedonhia, akasthisia, overall energy levels, etc. So yeah I'd say I'm about 80% to 85% recovered so far.

Thank you it is great to heare that you are almost back to yourself.. How many shots did you had and what time ago?

 

[bojana]

Sounds good, anyways yes I'm also into fitness in general. Prior to invega I used to weigh 193 pounds and was only considered slightly overweight for someone of my height ( 6' 1 feet ), I was also very health-oriented and strict on my workout routines as well as what I consumed while trying to remain on a calorie deficit. Then the whole unfortunate circumstance where I got injected with invega happened and once I realized I could no longer sleep properly, lost all motivation, and felt very weak I completely gave up on my health for about 4 or so months. During that period of time I gained a whole 60 or so pounds to the point where I now weigh around 250 pounds and am now obese. Once I regained the ability to sleep normally, had somewhat cleared anhedonhia, and more energy I decided to return to the gym and gradually try to work my way up to where I used to be, since I also lack the strength I once had, and continued to eat in moderation. My primary focus before was to gain muscle mass, now my priority is just to burn off as much fat as possible.

How many injections you had and how long are you off of them

 

[Baddream]

god can fix your paranoia

Probably just need to learn how to deal with it and stay in control. But I will take medicine if I don’t feel better, because untreated mental illness, in the long run, can get way worse than the side effects I’m feeling from ap’s

 

[roofmaan1]

Probably just need to learn how to deal with it and stay in control. But I will take medicine if I don’t feel better, because untreated mental illness, in the long run, can get way worse than the side effects I’m feeling from ap’s

god is in control god can fix any mental illness but you have to have a strong amount of faith towards god. Im studying the bible everyday

 

[roofmaan1]

and god is healing me

 

[CrimsonThornX]

Thank you it is great to heare that you are almost back to yourself.. How many shots did you had and what time ago?

I thankfully only took the loading dose of 234mg which I believe contains two injections, though I only remember being injected once strangely. I was supposed to recieve a maintenance dose a week after but because I was taking abilify injections prior, thank god I had no negative reaction to that, they said the injection that's given a week after the loading dose was no longer neccesary. By the time I was supposed to recieve the monthly injection I was already experiencing severe side effects hence why I only took one or two and not more. Oh also I recieved the first and only injections back on the 9th of December of last year, so its been about 5 1/3 months or so since.

 

[roofmaan1]

Probably just need to learn how to deal with it and stay in control. But I will take medicine if I don’t feel better, because untreated mental illness, in the long run, can get way worse than the side effects I’m feeling from ap’

the cure for all mental illnesses is believing in god and nothing else

 

[CrimsonThornX]

I know many people who had psychosis and they never took neuroleptics, and all of them, before + during and after psychosis never had anhedonia, numbness of experience or numbness of emotion. There are also many misdiagnosed people and they still suffer the same things. And also, neuroleptics don't remove/solve delusions they just burry them because person can't process things anymore, they can't focus on delusions, these delusions also stop being important to them during when these brain parts are being disabled and/or damaged enough by the neuroleptic, but after effects weaken enough, unresolved delusions can return because after the person can have slight interests and slight focus, delusions can exist/surface again.

It is also known what happens if the certain parts of brain get disabled (by invega or any other neuroleptic). Seems like your doc lacks in biochemistry and neurochemistry.
More these parts of brain get disabled, the more severe will the issues it causes be and more of them will be obvious: anhedonia, no interests, inability to focus or feel
coffee/alcohol and other stimulants, memory issues, etc.

Exactly, like how in the world can someone make the assumption that psychosis itself cause such a ridiculously large amount of issues, everything I'm currently experiencing and suffering is entirely because of that stupid injection. I mean sure my life wasn't exactly ideal or perfect before, but I was much and I mean MUCH healthier in many aspects prior to invega both mentally and physically. Like I said in a previous post because I had such a severe reaction I decided to stop taking all medications entirely with one exception being for my hypothyroidism since I need it. I wonder if psychiatrists are aware of the severe harm they cause but simply don't care.

 

[Serhat]

Have you done blood test for remaining dosage?

I havent nope.

 

[roofmaan1]

This is precisely what I am hoping as well, either this or rehab, because he was also talking about going to rehab and it's the same in some rehabs/detoxes, you're not allowed to use your phone. I've been in both the psych ward and rehabs and detoxes many, many times, all different types of institutions. Some places allow you to have your phones and laptops, other places take them off you for a certain period of time. In rehab it makes sense. They do it for several reasons, so that you don't have a way to contact anyone to bring you drugs, so that you don't have any external distractions from their rehab program, etc etc. In psych wards I still don't know why they do it...but they do, so

I'm sorry to have to ask again, but does anyone have ANY OTHER INFORMATION about @Merek AT ALL that can help me search for any possible news about him:
- his first name
- the state he lives in (from his IP addresses I think I can maybe narrow it down to either IL or IN but he uses a VPN so I cannot be sure about this at all)
- did he actually attend a school, or was he studying high school via correspondance
- did he ever talk about any hobbies, or any volunteer work

Please inbox me if you have any info at all that could help.

do you know any people that have recovered from invega?

 

[Invegaishell]

do you know any people that have recovered from invega?

Go through the previous threads of this. There is a list with many people who have recovered. It is possible. But if I showed you a list with a 1,000 people who have recovered it wouldn’t make you feel better. You will only feel better once you begin to heal. I heard a bunch of recovery stories and if anything it kind of made me jealous. Now it’s different since I feel better.