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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

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So it was political and he was mentally ill

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Louisville shooter Connor Sturgeon reportedly detailed reasons for rampage in manifesto

Louisville bank shooter Connor Sturgeon apparently left a manifesto outlining three key reasons for his violent rampage that left five coworkers dead.
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Mass shootings are rising every freaking day in America no matter what tf is or isn't legislated.
Boggles my mind but our culture with this is led by the top down... if our leaders rape, rob, pillage, plunder and murder who's to stop it as the most effective way to lead is by example iirc.
Ban whatever they want it will continue to to rise (incidents of mass shootings) regardless.
 
Wonder how many less mass shootings (not gang shootings) there would be if people on SSRI's or antipsychotics couldn't legally buy guns

I guess they'd just buy 80% kits off the internet tho if they really wanted to go through with it. But even then it would still probably stop some people
 
Electrum1 said:
Wonder how many less mass shootings (not gang shootings) there would be if people on SSRI's or antipsychotics couldn't legally buy guns

I guess they'd just buy 80% kits off the internet tho if they really wanted to go through with it. But even then it would still probably stop some people
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I genuinely think this should happen, but it never would since the pharmaceutical lobby even out does the gun lobby. Using ssris long term, is an off label use. Someone needs to sue these companies for causing so many mental health issues.

If rfk could somehow win, and took apart these intelligence agencies, we would see a noticeable drop in these mass shooting event as well. It’s wild how many shills they have on the internet attacking rfk, and how fake news is in full on attack mode. Really makes ya think
 
Dropperneck said:
I genuinely think this should happen, but it never would since the pharmaceutical lobby even out does the gun lobby. Using ssris long term, is an off label use. Someone needs to sue these companies for causing so many mental health issues.

If rfk could somehow win, and took apart these intelligence agencies, we would see a noticeable drop in these mass shooting event as well. It’s wild how many shills they have on the internet attacking rfk, and how fake news is in full on attack mode. Really makes ya think
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He getting the “trump treatment “ it’s almost like it matters less what party your on and more how willing you are to not rock the boat
 
Seems the majority of those wanting to ban them have no actual real life experience with them and safely using them. Fumble one around while being shot at my a## ya right lmao. I think instinct kicks in after let's see ...at least 26 years if I subtract the 6yrs old starting time from 32 years old sounds right.
 
MadHatterMike said:
Seems the majority of those wanting to ban them have no actual real life experience with them and safely using them. Fumble one around while being shot at my a## ya right lmao. I think instinct kicks in after let's see ...at least 26 years if I subtract the 6yrs old starting time from 32 years old sounds right.
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Right, these people act like real gun nuts dont run drills and practice with the things they are obsessed about, that makes total sense
 
Electrum1 said:
Wonder how many less mass shootings (not gang shootings) there would be if people on SSRI's or antipsychotics couldn't legally buy guns

I guess they'd just buy 80% kits off the internet tho if they really wanted to go through with it. But even then it would still probably stop some people
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The issue with a hard law on SSRIs is that people who genuinely struggle with depression or anxiety and nothing else are fine on these medications.
It doesn't do much for most of them (~20-30% success rate) but it doesn't do a lot of harm either.
The problem starts when you have people with bipolar or schizophrenia that has been ignored/misdiagnosed.
SSRIs can trigger and worsen these conditions, sending people deep into psychosis.
I know/have known several people in my personal life whose bipolar was triggered/drastically worsened by SSRI prescriptions.

The issue here is that SSRIs are a pretty ineffective medication, and people generally aren't competently screened for bipolar or schizophrenia before receiving SSRI scripts.

On the flip side, you do also have shrinks who give out anti-psychotics for every condition and issue under the sun.
I've had them offered to me for insomnia, I've seen other people taking them for BPD & depression & anxiety.
These are powerful medications with extreme side effects, and they should only be used for Bipolar 1, Schizophrenia, and similar psychotic disorders.
But I think that antipsychotics are A LOT more likely to just destroy your body, make you gain weight, and turn you into a zombie than to make anyone commit a mass murder.
 
Electrum1 said:
Wonder how many less mass shootings (not gang shootings) there would be if people on SSRI's or antipsychotics couldn't legally buy guns

I guess they'd just buy 80% kits off the internet tho if they really wanted to go through with it. But even then it would still probably stop some people
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There would be less shootings and suicides, how much USA will find out when/if that's done.

Most people wouldn’t go trough hassle of building weapon or making explosive. And even a few that might start such a thing wouldn’t all finish it. Like some psychiatrist say that pull to commit suicide is enormous but it doesn’t last very long so if person isn’t in close to something with what he or she would commit suicide there’s a big chance he or she wouldn’t do same tomorrow. To what extent is that correct is almost impossible to objectively estimate but even if it apply to tiny number of people, why the fuck would people taking medicine with black label warning be able to get firearms?
 
Las Veghost grower said:
They could built a explosive if they really wanted to go through with it, they could drive their car into a crowd if they really want to go through with it
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except they choose a gun pretty much every time. why is that?

i don't really see any bluelighters calling for guns to be banned and, if they are, they're not representative of anything other than a tiny minority here.

so i don't know why that's where the counterpoint always starts. well, i do but you know what i mean.

if you're interested in some kind of gun control, supporting this guy seems to be a step in the right direction:



alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
except they choose a gun pretty much every time. why is that?

i don't really see any bluelighters calling for guns to be banned and, if they are, they're not representative of anything other than a tiny minority here.

so i don't know why that's where the counterpoint always starts. well, i do but you know what i mean.

if you're interested in some kind of gun control, supporting this guy seems to be a step in the right direction:



alasdair
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Yea but the thing is a mass shooting is technically a shooting with more than one victim, atleast that kind of the criteria to be called a mass shooting, so even if all rifles are banned and you can only own pistols there will still be mass shootings all over the news, stricter background check n social media scans are one thing but just like with the SBR laws the end goal is to eliminate public ownership of guns
 
Exactly^ starts with one then the next and the next and so on..which is what the anti crowd don't get or care about anyways. And if you don't believe that just look at everywhere else they're banned..they didn't start with everything at once..but slowly and surely one by one it was handguns or rifles first then the type or vise versa and then on and on. And guess what...regardless of how much more firepower the government has than the people it's never better with jack sh#t to try and not be mowed over by big brother when you have nothing yourself.
 
MadHatterMike said:
Funny isn't it that the places the worst are the strictest for gun control and the only ones with weapons are the criminals who don't care in the first place. Cali comes to mind
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california has the 43rd highest (i.e. 8th lowest) rate of death by firearm in the country.

the top 5 states are these bastions of woke liberal social justice: mississippi; louisiana; new mexico; alabama; and wyoming.

alasdair
 
I think a distinction should be made for gun deaths that are by people (felons) that arnt legally allowed to own a gun in the first place, like say Alabama I would imagine more then 50% are by illegally owned guns..or just for the whole country, most have to be by illegally owned guns
 
alasdairm said:
i'd be interested in that breakdown too.



why?

alasdair
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Well considering how many guns are in the US, that we know of atleast, vs how many legal gun owners and overall gun deaths I would think of law abiding gun owners were majority the annual deaths would be much higher, plus I’m sure most are gang related and almost all of them are illegally owned guns
 
Electrum1 said:
Most of them are probably gang related and used illegal guns
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Exactly. Where are young people getting the 8000 illegal guns per year taken off them by police in Chicago alone? Well, many have testified to finding crates, uhaul trucks and boxcars full of them, left abandoned and unlocked in their neighborhoods, AND, that many if them are illegal fully autos. Now how does that make any sense? Even criminals don't give away guns for free.. There's only one entity with the resources and possible motivation to do such a thing and that is the federal government.

As long as we gave a rogue and unaccountable government engaged in these evil shenanigans we cannot give up our guns, and must fight every inch of gun control they attempt to pass. Every tyrannical government has disarmed it's citizenry right before arresting and purging dissidents, typically through mass murder. Everyone needs to get involved, get organized. They divide us continually to weaken us. We must unite and peacefully organize against these pirates that have stolen our country from us.
 
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