The Dive's Covid Thread

[Dead Machination]

The fact that the forum administrators and mods are letting this conversation happen is one of the reasons I signed up.

 

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The fact that the forum administrators and mods are letting this conversation happen is one of the reasons I signed up.

It's been an interesting ride over the past years. Things that were discussed near the start are no longer as outrageous as they once seemed. Especially over the past 6 months, it seems every week some new article or revelation has emerged which continues to vindicate all of us who raised the alarm about the jabs and the consequences of the response generally.

I still maintain the position I held back in summer 2020; there is no virus, it is a psychological warfare operation conducted by the global ruling class, and (hopefully) will one day be exposed as the greatest crime against humanity ever committed.

 

[Dead Machination]

It's been an interesting ride over the past years. Things that were discussed near the start are no longer as outrageous as they once seemed. Especially over the past 6 months, it seems every week some new article or revelation has emerged which continues to vindicate all of us who raised the alarm about the jabs and the consequences of the response generally.

I still maintain the position I held back in summer 2020; there is no virus, it is a psychological warfare operation conducted by the global ruling class, and (hopefully) will one day be exposed as the greatest crime against humanity ever committed.

Things that would get you kicked off of social media two years ago are now front page headlines.

I had my Reddit account permanently banned for daring to suggest that they were counting deaths "of" "COVID" and "with" "COVID" (Note the DOUBLE bullshit quotes) as the same numbers.

I posted a link to a man who had been killed in a car accident, but had tested positive for "COVID", and that death was counted towards the statistic. Anybody who had the cold / flu detectable in their system when they died and was magically a "COVID" victim.

That's okay, I've quite literally never used Reddit again, and am a better person for it.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

"There is no such thing as "misinformation, disinformation, or malinformation" studies. What these people seek to ban is critical thinking, scientific debate, and innovative new paradigms."

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Things that would get you kicked off of social media two years ago are now front page headlines.

I had my Reddit account permanently banned for daring to suggest that they were counting deaths "of" "COVID" and "with" "COVID" (Note the DOUBLE bullshit quotes) as the same numbers.

I posted a link to a man who had been killed in a car accident, but had tested positive for "COVID", and that death was counted towards the statistic. Anybody who had the cold / flu detectable in their system when they died and was magically a "COVID" victim.

That's okay, I've quite literally never used Reddit again, and am a better person for it.

There have been deaths where young children drowned in rivers, lakes, the ocean, or at home in a tub and they were listed as COVID deaths.

I believe my friend's father died from a heart attack, or maybe asthma if he had it, but COVID was on the death certificate and it was listed third.

 

[Dead Machination]

There have been deaths where young children drowned in rivers, lakes, the ocean, or at home in a tub and they were listed as COVID deaths.

I believe my friend's father died from a heart attack, or maybe asthma if he had it, but COVID was on the death certificate and it was listed third.

My mom swallowed the COVID propaganda, hook, line, and sinker. In some sense she's a medical professional, and tells anybody who listens that her patients die all the time of "COVID", while neglecting to mention she works in advanced stage cancer treatment center... Something like 75% of her patients die within a few years, "COVID" or no. Officially, they rerouted pretty much an entire cancer centers "death numbers" to reflect that they died "from" "COVID".

I don't know anybody personally who's actually died, or even been hospitalized with "COVID". I know people who have been hospitalized for other things, and then had a positive test while in the hospital, but that's not why they were there in the first place.

At this point I think it's pretty obvious it was a money making ploy from pharmaceutical companies. Crank up the media fear level (the more you research how much money pharmaceutical companies pour into media companies, the more obvious it becomes) for the flu like they do every year, and then magically have multiple cures available in record-breaking time.

There's also an aspect of fear and control of the population, and large behind the scenes financial dealings going on, but that's a whole other topic for a conspiracy thread. Its all connected. Nothing being shown to you on the news is unrelated, it's all a distraction or diversion from something else.

All this from the companies that brought you "Xanax, The safe alternative to barbiturates", "heroin, the cure for morphine addiction", and "cocaine with codeine, the best thing for your baby's cough."

I spent the better part of a decade injecting sketchy powders that had been hidden in people's underwear, and dozens of completely untested research chemicals.

I wouldn't dare get that vaccine though.

 

[Xorkoth]

I had an aunt and cousin who died from covid (my aunt was diabetic but other worse health, and my cousin was 45 and had no health problems. Both were slightly overweight, too, but yeah, they got sick, developed extreme breathing problems, went to the ICU, and suffocated to death). That was the original alpha or possibly delta variant, when it was way more dangerous.

I had covid twice, including the original strain. Got pretty sick the first time, but never had to be hospitalized, and the second time, with omicron, it was like a 2 day long cold.

That said, I absolutely believe that the continued push for vaccination in the face of a mild variant of covid, that doesn't even respond to the vaccine, is a money grab by big pharma.

Sadly, my girlfriend is still buying every bit of the covid fear. She even wears a mask at the farmer's market, which is outdoors. Makes me wonder if she will ever feel safe again. It makes me sad.

 

[nepalnt21]

'there is no virus', holy fuck what a ridiculous and absurd position.

and anyone who has been paying attention has known for over a year that natural immunity is as good or better than vaccine induced immunity... but the problem with that is...

you have to GET COVID 19 in order to get natural immunity

 

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'there is no virus', holy fuck what a ridiculous and absurd position.

Nope. Despite a coordinated global campaign of hysteria and statistical trickery, the foundations on which this entire event rest have not been demonstrably proven. It's not the first time it has been done and it certainly won't be the last. I'm not going to elaborate, again, on why this is true and why it is actually incredibly obvious if one bothers to examine the evidence with an open mind.

and anyone who has been paying attention has known for over a year that natural immunity is as good or better than vaccine induced immunity... but the problem with that is...

you have to GET COVID 19 in order to get natural immunity

So why did you put that pharmaceutical shit into your children then, when we knew right from the beginning that minors especially were at 0% risk. You and half the worlds population obviously were not paying attention. Those of us who were paying attention raised our voices about the jabs and the total idiocy of putting an experimental concoction into the worlds population for something that was only killing the very elderly and already very sick people.

All the evidence clearly shows that covid was a total over reaction, and that it was actually over before summer 2020 had even begun. It peaked in April 2020. Everything after that point was a total charade of statistical bullshit and propaganda designed to keep the fraud going.

Total fraud. The masks, the testing, the initial fabrication of a novel pathogen based on localised hysteria in some shithole China town where pneumonia is rife due to air pollution. All of it.

I keep saying it, the problem with people today is they believe what comes out of the TV is real. Ironically there is complete silence on the excess deaths going on right now, across the world, that is actually worse than during the pandemic lmao.

Give it up. You were played.

 

[nepalnt21]

holy fuck, more of that "linear slope down to age 0" bullshit, which is another thing those of us that have been paying attention knew was bullshit for years now.

it's a j curve, we've been over this.

and you must have a MASSIVE mountain to climb when trying to demonstrate something to be true... like, do you believe that the sun doesn't exist?

 

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holy fuck, more of that "linear slope down to age 0" bullshit, which is another thing those of us that have been paying attention knew was bullshit for years now.

It has been done to death mate, the average age of mortality for covid is above the national average age of mortality for all causes (in the UK). Obese people, people will existing comorbidities, and those 80+ age people, they were the only ones at any risk at any point.

Those 18 and under are at 0% risk. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Those under 60 and who aren't obese and/or ill from other causes, again are at 0% risk.

like, do you believe that the sun doesn't exist?

I'm muting you posts now. You're a lost cause.

 

[Xorkoth]

Those under 60 and who aren't obese and/or ill from other causes, again are at 0% risk.

Disagree on 0%, but it's quite small, especially now. I said before, but my cousin died from covid. 45 years old, otherwise healthy other than slightly overweight (but not obese).

Anyway though I'm certainly not saying it's something we should go around worrying about. Also, that was the original strain. Covid has revolved to be much less deadly.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I had an aunt and cousin who died from covid (my aunt was diabetic but other worse health, and my cousin was 45 and had no health problems. Both were slightly overweight, too, but yeah, they got sick, developed extreme breathing problems, went to the ICU, and suffocated to death). That was the original alpha or possibly delta variant, when it was way more dangerous.

I had covid twice, including the original strain. Got pretty sick the first time, but never had to be hospitalized, and the second time, with omicron, it was like a 2 day long cold.

That said, I absolutely believe that the continued push for vaccination in the face of a mild variant of covid, that doesn't even respond to the vaccine, is a money grab by big pharma.

Sadly, my girlfriend is still buying every bit of the covid fear. She even wears a mask at the farmer's market, which is outdoors. Makes me wonder if she will ever feel safe again. It makes me sad.

I am sorry for your loss. Covid is a weird virus. In apparently most people it can be mild, but then with people who are otherwise healthy it or a certain type or strain of it can cause blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, brain damage, chronic fatigue, and death.

I don't wear masks outside but I generally do if I am indoors for long periods of time. Or when I am around my friend who has cancer that is in remission but she is on meds and still gets periodic treatments. She has had to get the COVID vaccines and boosters multiple times because of the chemotherapy and cancer treatments completely destroying any immunity she had from the vaccines and boosters.

My other friend who says he is a pure blood, says how the vaccines are a 'death shot and killed more people than the stupid bug did', never took any COVID vaccines at all, never wore masks unless forced to when there were mask mandates. He has heart issues and I hope COVID did not damage his heart, or cause blood clots. He had the original strain and said it was very bad, takes a lot out of the immune system, and I suspect he might have had other strains of it. His wife has 'long covid' and had an extremely bad cough for months after supposedly being recovered from COVID.

 

[ps5shelf]

I never bought into the hype behind COVID. I don't mind getting sick once in a while and they always blow every illness out of proportion. I was really surprised by how people went along with this whole charade though. I don't get vaccinated, not because I am afraid of the vaccines but because I don't care if I get sick. But now it's so pushed that I refuse to get it because nobody should be able to make you get a vaccine

 

[Xorkoth]

I am sorry for your loss. Covid is a weird virus. In apparently most people it can be mild, but then with people who are otherwise healthy it or a certain type or strain of it can cause blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, brain damage, chronic fatigue, and death.

I don't wear masks outside but I generally do if I am indoors for long periods of time. Or when I am around my friend who has cancer that is in remission but she is on meds and still gets periodic treatments. She has had to get the COVID vaccines and boosters multiple times because of the chemotherapy and cancer treatments completely destroying any immunity she had from the vaccines and boosters.

My other friend who says he is a pure blood, says how the vaccines are a 'death shot and killed more people than the stupid bug did', never took any COVID vaccines at all, never wore masks unless forced to when there were mask mandates. He has heart issues and I hope COVID did not damage his heart, or cause blood clots. He had the original strain and said it was very bad, takes a lot out of the immune system, and I suspect he might have had other strains of it. His wife has 'long covid' and had an extremely bad cough for months after supposedly being recovered from COVID.

Thank you.

I don't know what to think about "long covid". I read one study that my girlfriend uses as her basis for being terrified of covid even to this day (despite having never had it through all those exposures), where they gave people a questionnaire a month after they had covid, and if they answered yes to one or more (or maybe two or more, can't remember) of the questions, they were considered to have "long covid"... but the questions included such nebulous stuff as "I feel more tired than usual", "I have experienced brain fog", "I have had a headache one or more times per week", stuff like that. They concluded that 30% of all people who get covid develop long covid. But ask anyone those questions, and you'll get the same.

On the other hand, true long covid is a thing... I do not doubt it. I have heard some horrible stories of people experiencing profoundly life-disrupting stuff. But it seems rare, and I think it's intensely irresponsible to try to convince people that they have a 30% chance of developing a chronic, debilitating disease, even if they don't have any symptoms from covid itself.

 

[Fire&Water]

The psych ops are working extremely well in every liberal shithole city

 

[kiely]

 

[kiely]

 

[Dead Machination]

My wife and I have been sick 3 times recently, and she tested positive for "COVID". I didn't test, we had the same symptoms, why bother.

The symptoms were indistinguishable from my tri-yearly light cold. In fact, I only got sick as normal, not an additional three times. Either COVID is a magical virus that completely wipes out my ability to get the common cold, or it IS the common cold (and / or flu).

The flu also happens to be lethal to the exact same group of "high risk" individuals that "COVID" is as well. The more people that tested positive for COVID, the less people tested positive for the flu. I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night. Almost every single year you see the headline "ICUs in hospital beds maxed out due to the flu cases, make sure you get your vaccine...." Only this time they figured out a way to get the vaccines mandated to most of the population.

This entire thing is literally a big game of jerked around statistics. They do the same thing with gun death statistics, when you really look into it you realize that you're MUCH more likely to die from tripping and falling over than from a random shooting. You want to see some wild statistics, look up your chances of being in a lethal car crash. But that's a tangent for another time.

They took a natural disease, that everybody got, carefully planned a way to scare the population, and then gracefully swooped in record time to provide the cure, for the low low price of record pharmaceutical stock prices.

Denying COVID isn't a matter of denying science, it's a matter of denying semantics. I don't believe there's this new disease out there killing people, I believe they've renamed the disease that's been out there for a while already to drum up attention. So yes, I'm a "COVID denier", if that's what you want to call it.

Remember those fake images of people lying dead in the streets from China?

Video falsely claims to show bodies of virus victims in China

CLAIM: Video shows dead bodies waiting to be picked up in Wuhan, China, due to new coronavirus. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The video shows people sleeping in the streets in Shenzhen, China, a city over 600 miles away from Wuhan. THE FACTS: A video circulating on social media that shows bodies...

apnews.com

That's just one specific article, but there's dozens of cases of that happening. Some of those pictures even got into the mainstream American news, many of them have since been redacted, most likely in extreme embarrassment. Why in the world would somebody create "fake news" like that, unless the intention was to stir up fear.

I think if you really want to know what's up, you want to look at what was happening right at the time that "COVID" hit. The scandal involving Jeffrey Epstein and gislane Maxwell, as well as elected members of government, the media, and large corporations, involved with human, money, weapon, and drug trafficking. You can claim that's a conspiracy all you want, but there's been dozens of arrests for that kind of stuff already.

What do these three things have in common?
-Drywall
-Jeffrey Epstein
-Christmas ornaments

-They don't hang themselves-

The powers that be want you to forget what they're up to. That stuff was starting to blow up online, and people were waking up left and right starting to realize that our entire government is a sham run by a bunch of psychopathic criminals on both sides of the aisle. The dot win websites and reddit conspiracy subs completely full of very well done research on these people and what they've been doing. Some of these people spent hundreds of hours doing research, writing up documents and infographics. Now those boards are 99.9% full of COVID and "election fraud" crap, like elections ever mattered anyway. It's all an illusion of choice. Do you let this red guy to fuck you in the ass, or the blue guy to fuck you in the ass? Your choice though, maybe one guy promises to use some lube. Again, another tangent, for another time.

These companies repeatedly lie to us, repeatedly get caught, repeatedly paid billions of dollars in fines to people that they've hurt and killed, the same government that brought Nazi war criminals to the US and gave them cushy jobs and homes, flooded inner city streets with cocaine, and support a war on drugs solely to profit off of the prison and law enforcement system, yet for some reason we trust them implicitly now...

 

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Disagree on 0%, but it's quite small, especially now. I said before, but my cousin died from covid. 45 years old, otherwise healthy other than slightly overweight (but not obese).

It was always insignificantly small. For anyone under 18 it was 0%. In regards to your cousin, see my point below.

Covid is a weird virus. In apparently most people it can be mild, but then with people who are otherwise healthy it or a certain type or strain of it can cause blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, brain damage, chronic fatigue, and death.

Does it though. I have seen no statistics presented to show that the incidence rate of blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, etc, is any different now than to any other year (for unvaccinated). The only thing that is binding together your statement there is the assumption that the tests for covid are an accurate definition, and even if the definition is accurate it still doesn't prove that X caused Y. People get ill and die, all the time, only now we are all too willing to attribute it to covid especially if they have tested positive at some point.

I won't beat a dead horse, it has been explained many times, but the testing is complete bullshit.

Of course the data now needs to be split according to vaccination status as well, because despite all the denials it is clear these jabs are causing a plethora of reactions in particular blood clotting and heart attacks. Which is really evil from my perspective, because these bastards can now just make the statement you made and lump the blame on covid, knowing full well that muddying the waters will drag this out in time to the point where nothing will be done or proven - the push to get everyone vaccinated was precisely for this reason, to reduce the control group size and bury any inconvenient statistical revelations.

The symptoms were indistinguishable from my tri-yearly light cold. In fact, I only got sick as normal, not an additional three times. Either COVID is a magical virus that completely wipes out my ability to get the common cold, or it IS the common cold (and / or flu).

This entire thing is literally a big game of jerked around statistics. They do the same thing with gun death statistics, when you really look into it you realize that you're MUCH more likely to die from tripping and falling over than from a random shooting. You want to see some wild statistics, look up your chances of being in a lethal car crash. But that's a tangent for another time.

They took a natural disease, that everybody got, carefully planned a way to scare the population, and then gracefully swooped in record time to provide the cure, for the low low price of record pharmaceutical stock prices.

Denying COVID isn't a matter of denying science, it's a matter of denying semantics. I don't believe there's this new disease out there killing people, I believe they've renamed the disease that's been out there for a while already to drum up attention. So yes, I'm a "COVID denier", if that's what you want to call it.

I'll go you one further and state not only is there no new disease, no new novel pathogen, not only did they simply repurpose statistics from category influenza into category covid, but that what we think of as influenza and the common cold are not pathogen related at all but deficiency/toxic exposure related. The two main epicentres were Wuhan and the Lombardy region in Italy, both regions have some of the highest levels of air pollution in their respective surrounding greater regions. It's like all these chicken farms at the moment, claiming 'bird flu', when in reality it is the fact they are living in crowded, polluted, stressful environments, that is what is making them sick.

The whole thing is a military style psychological operation. It is also the greatest example of gaslighting in the history of mankind, because all these illnesses can trace their roots back to the way we live our lives and the ruling classes parasitical societal structure that simply does not care if the plebs live and work in poor conditions. It is their system design that causes all these illnesses, then they have the gall to blame it on an invisible demon and sell us magic beans to cure it.. so instead of them using their money to put things right they instead take money off of us for something that doesn't even exist, AND they also get the opportunity to put stuff back into our bodies if they so choose. It's absolutely mental.

Fear rules this planet. It makes me laugh that we live in an era where people openly mock Christianity (I'm not Christian) for all the stupid things it believes, for all the idiocy and hysteria that gripped people during the middle ages, and yet this entire covid debacle is just a parallel example of that same exact mindset. Hysteria over some invisible entity (demon) we can't prove exists - only the priests can prove it - and attributing physical symptoms to it and creating a circular logic out of belief, then going on to persecute those who do not share in the hysterical delusional state. It is almost identical to historical examples, and yet people can't see it.