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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

alasdairm said:
amen.

also, when people write something to the effect of "i'm amazed more people haven't died..." do they realise they're making the exact opposite point they think they're making?

alasdair
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I only said I was surprised since there is such of huge amount of soccer players that have died suddenly since 2021. But their movement is constant, which is a factor.
 
Look whatever it was that happened we will likely never really know…but, if it happens again in 2023 everyone better start asking the hard questions, unfortunately I’m certain we will see a number of athletes fall to the ground this year, so I’ll be the crazy conspiracy theorist until then
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Look whatever it was that happened we will likely never really know…but, if it happens again in 2023 everyone better start asking the hard questions, unfortunately I’m certain we will see a number of athletes fall to the ground this year, so I’ll be the crazy conspiracy theorist until then
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You will be a crazy conspiracy theorist until the TV says what we all know, or the times writes about it. This is the bar
 
Las Veghost grower said:
but, if it happens again in 2023 everyone better start asking the hard questions, unfortunately I’m certain we will see a number of athletes fall to the ground this year
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if 2 cases will be enough to convince you, you've already made up your mind and you're just guilty of confirmation bias.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
if 2 cases will be enough to convince you, you've already made up your mind and you're just guilty of confirmation bias.

alasdair
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Well that’s if you ignore the soccer players…and consider how often it’s happened in the past 5 decades…but it sounds like you’ve already made up your mind it’s not….how about this , how many times would it have to happen for you to consider it’s the vaccine weakening their heart making them more susceptible to a problem ?
 
so you're blaming the covid vaccine for deaths ten, twenty, thirty, forty and fifty years ago?

or are you making the opposite point in which case let's hear your numbers?

alasdair
 
How about this…since nothing can be pinned to the vaccine cause of the lack of long term data…what would have to happen for you to just know the vaccine is causing problems with peoples health and responsible for a number of deaths
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Is anyone els confused about what I said ?
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dude, this is a clinical medium and sometimes ones intended message doesn't come across.

rather than assume, i figure it's better to just ask for some clarification.

please don't load that up with negativity. i'm simply showing you some basic respect...

Las Veghost grower said:
what would have to happen for you to just know the vaccine is causing problems with peoples health and responsible for a number of deaths
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you could present some evidence that's the case.

unfortunately, you've made it pretty clear that you're generally unable or unwilling to back up your claims with evidence.

alasdair
 
How many soccer players have died and why soccer specifically?

the vaccine is causing problems with peoples health and responsible for a number of deaths
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What would it require for you to know that the virus is causing way more health problems and way more deaths?

@Las Veghost grower

I'm not pro-vax, I just think it's important to be consistent if you want to know the truth.
 
also, this is the age of the internet. if this was happening 50 years ago it would be much harder to even know that.

but so much easier to assume absence of proof is the same as proof of absence and that you're right, right?

and i'm the kool-aid swilling sheep?

it's would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. the irony is totally lost...

alasdair
 
After having a (very) brief glance, it seems there is a history of this happening prior to the vaccines.

worldsoccertalk.com

Why are soccer players having cardiac arrests?

As an eleven-year-old, I was shocked when Marc Vivien Foe collapsed in the midst of an intense soccer match between Cameroon, the darlings of the 2003 Confederations Cup, and Colombia. Foe had the physique of a titan and was arguably one of the best African midfielders of the time. He was just...
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@jane douloureux

I haven't forgotten about you. Now my fucking cat is dying again (she is unvaccinated). I will sit down tonight and do as you asked
 
I'd honestly like to hear an answer as to what the anti-vaxxers here think happened to these pre-covid (vaccine) soccer players?

3 February 2018Spain Nacho Barbera15Spain UD AlziraCollapsed on the field during a youth team match against Ontinyent.[178]
13 February 2018Brazil Danilinho32Brazil JuazeirenseSuffered a heart attack during training.[179]
24 March 2018Croatia Bruno Boban25Croatia Marsonia 1909Croatian winger; Boban collapsed during a match between Marsonia and Požega Slavonia. After several minutes of attempted resuscitation by medical staff and a retired doctor who was spectating, he was pronounced dead.[180]
4 May 2018South Africa Luyanda Ntshangase21South Africa Maritzburg UnitedSouth African midfielder who was struck by lightning during a friendly game on 1 May 2018. He died three days later from his injuries.[181]
29 June 2018Egypt Mohamed Farouk33Egypt Sidi Salem ClubCollapsed from a heart attack during a friendly match in the Aba el-Balad district in Minya.[182]
1 September 2018Netherlands Tijmen Steenbergen13Netherlands VV Marinus van Rooijen 's-HeerenbergDutch goalkeeper who died in a C Youth league match on 1 September 2018, after a collision with the Left back.[183]
14 September 2018France Mamadou Camara26France USON MondevilleCollapsed from a heart attack during training.[184]
6 October 2018Brazil Ramon Neto da Costa31Brazil Araranguá Esporte ClubeBrazilian attacker who died during a friendly game on 6 October 2018.[185]
4 November 2018Nigeria Ekundayo Ebenezer Mawoyeka23Turkey Sarayköyspor [tr]Collapsed in the 35th minute of the match against Yesilkoyspor at the Servergazi Stadium. Mawoyeka was confirmed to have died of a heart attack upon arrival at the Denizli State Hospital.[186]
22 January 2019Ivory Coast Fodé SidibéIvory Coast ASC Bouaké [fr]The defender collapsed during a training session.[187]
27 January 2019Spain Francisco Cavada32Spain Marina de CudeyoCollapsed in the 22nd minute of a Primera Regional match against CD Valdaliga. Attempts to resuscitate him were unsuccessful.[188]
2 March 2019Gabon Herman Tsinga30Gabon Akanda FCCollapsed after challenging for a header in a Championnat National 1 match against Missile. Received cardiac massage on the field for twenty minutes but died en route to hospital.[189]
25 April 2019Burundi Faty Papy28Eswatini Malanti ChiefsBurundian midfielder, had a heart attack while playing in a match in Eswatini.[190]
8 May 2019Peru Ludwin Flores Nole27Peru Los RangersSuffered a heart attack after drinking ice-cold water at the end of a match.[191]
17 June 2019Liberia Edwin BoakaiLiberia National Port Authority AnchorsGoalkeeper collapsed and died during a training session.[192]
6 July 2019Wales Derrick Williams30Wales Lucas CwmbranSuffered sudden cardiac arrest during a friendly match.[193]
26 September 2019Uruguay Agustín Martínez17Uruguay Boston RiverAfter being substituted in a league match against Cerro with a knee injury, Martínez suffered cardiac arrest on the bench. He was transferred to hospital but died three days later.[194]
7 November 2019Brazil Renan Henrique Santos16Brazil Água Santa U17Collapsed during a training session. The cause of death was cardiac arrest.[195]
29 December 2019India Radhakrishnan Dhanarajan39India East Bengal F.C.Dhanarajan was playing in an All India Sevens tournament at Perinthalmanna in Malappuram when he suddenly collapsed after suffering a loss of breath and chest pain. The incident occurred in the 27th minute of the match between FC Perinthalmanna and Sastha Thrissur. Though he was stretchered off and admitted to a hospital nearby, he could not be revived.[196]
8 March 2020Nigeria Chineme Martins22Nigeria Nasarawa United F.C.Collapsed and died during a league game[197]
21 November 2020Indonesia Ricky Yacobi57RetiredDied of a heart attack while playing a friendly game with several teammates and journalists[198]
27 November 2020Iraq Sajjad AliIraq Al-SulaikhDied of a heart attack while playing a league match against Bismayah.[199]
 
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