Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[UnluckyXeplion]

DIVONYX (from Reddit)
‘I wouldn't say I feel crazy excitement/euphoria like before, but I am content. Old interests and hobbies have really lost it's thrill for me though unfortunately, they don't provide the fufillment like they used to, so I can relate to what you have to say about listening to your favourite song and not having the same emotions you had in the past.My physical fitness is total crap right now from lack of exercise. I'd also say i'm much weaker now... I am still able to get drunk though.’

That kinda freaks me out!! I want to be able to feel crazy excitement again (like hitting the lottery excitement/want to scream and jump for joy excitement). Can anyone feel that emotion after stopping Invega??

We all die anyway at one point or another.
If I won't recover from this shit, all that's left is waiting to die, we get a new body in the next life anyway.
It's just sad that I got screwed by this poison so soon in life.

 

[Medara]

We all die anyway at one point or another.
If I won't recover from this shit, all that's left is waiting to die, we get a new body in the next life anyway.
It's just sad that I got screwed by this poison so soon in life.

I wish someone could call me, lift my spirits and verify it’s going to get better 100%. I need someone to talk to.

 

[paranoid android]

I wish someone could call me, lift my spirits and verify it’s going to get better 100%. I need someone to talk to.

I came off invega and am now on latuda and have recovered 100%. So there is hope

 

[Merek]

I came off invega and am now on latuda and have recovered 100%. So there is hope

How long did it take for sexual dysfunction to go away?

 

[paranoid android]

Can I call you?

I don't currently even have a phone sorry But im on here alot

How long did it take for sexual dysfunction to go away?

About 3 months

 

[Strangeperiod]

Does anyone struggle with talking to people and making conversation. Invega made me so quiet and just unable to think of things to say in a conversation except really obvious things to say. My mum and brother is so arrogant like they look down on me for being quiet and if I say something dumb they act weird

 

[Strangeperiod]

Don’t drink alcohol it makes recovering harder, I made the mistake of drinking daily like 8 beers 7 months after my last injection and it prolonged the recovery a lot I think? Anyone else think alcohol would cause this prolonged recovery

 

[Kaatrina]

Hi everyone! Invega really caused a lot of weight gain for me. After a few years did the weight drop off for you?

I was able to lose weight from 13-16 months. Are you on ither APs, because they can also affect your weight.

Does anyone struggle with talking to people and making conversation. Invega made me so quiet and just unable to think of things to say in a conversation except really obvious things to say. My mum and brother is so arrogant like they look down on me for being quiet and if I say something dumb they act weird

I struggled with this a lot but have recovered & may even be better conversationalist than I used to.

 

[Merek]

I struggled with this a lot but have recovered & may even be better conversationalist than I used to.

I have a theory that when your D2 receptors are blocked the brain makes more to try and balance it out so when you recover your brain is more sensitive to dopamine then before when you fully recovered did you feel even better then pre invega?

 

[StrawHatLuffy]

DIVONYX (from Reddit)
‘I wouldn't say I feel crazy excitement/euphoria like before, but I am content. Old interests and hobbies have really lost it's thrill for me though unfortunately, they don't provide the fufillment like they used to, so I can relate to what you have to say about listening to your favourite song and not having the same emotions you had in the past.My physical fitness is total crap right now from lack of exercise. I'd also say i'm much weaker now... I am still able to get drunk though.’

That kinda freaks me out!! I want to be able to feel crazy excitement again (like hitting the lottery excitement/want to scream and jump for joy excitement). Can anyone feel that emotion after stopping Invega??

@Kaatrina would you say you feel as excited/euphoric as before the injections? Is your interest in old hobbies back?

 

[Strangeperiod]

Just thought I’d copy this note I made here; just random thoughts on what could have caused or contributed to my psychosis, some of these could apply to other people, just my personal ideas for my own situation not about psychosis in general
Processed foods
Negative cultures and people, people telling you who you are
Not expressing yourself
Inflammation
Weed/alcohol/caffeine/cigarettes/illicit drugs
Porn and masturbation and sexual overindulgence
Gut/micro biome dysfunction
Low testosterone
Bacterial overgrowth
Lack of neurogenesis ; substances, natural exposure, learning, memory exercises, achievement and awakening the inspiration to create and achieve and progress
Dopamine/glutamate/gab-a/circulation imbalance
Money problems
Social isolation
No exercise
Not breaking out of stereotype ideologies/toxic humour/insincere mocking/the lack of serious hair standing up on arms movements
No goals/structure/pleasure reward circuit dopamine
Information hyper-stimulation like media
Separation from natural environments I.e not hiking and walking in forests
Lack of events and involvement in life
Lack of courage and standing up self and intensity and own-path-ferocity and risk taking

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

Just thought I’d copy this note I made here; just random thoughts on what could have caused or contributed to my psychosis, some of these could apply to other people, just my personal ideas for my own situation not about psychosis in general
Processed foods
Negative cultures and people, people telling you who you are
Not expressing yourself
Inflammation
Weed/alcohol/caffeine/cigarettes/illicit drugs
Porn and masturbation and sexual overindulgence
Gut/micro biome dysfunction
Low testosterone
Bacterial overgrowth
Lack of neurogenesis ; substances, natural exposure, learning, memory exercises, achievement and awakening the inspiration to create and achieve and progress
Dopamine/glutamate/gab-a/circulation imbalance
Money problems
Social isolation
No exercise
Not breaking out of stereotype ideologies/toxic humour/insincere mocking/the lack of serious hair standing up on arms movements
No goals/structure/pleasure reward circuit dopamine
Information hyper-stimulation like media
Separation from natural environments I.e not hiking and walking in forests
Lack of events and involvement in life
Lack of courage and standing up self and intensity and own-path-ferocity and risk taking

For me it was eating meat and processed food.
Once I switched my diet, I'm calmer than ever.
My psychosis was involved and caused by immense stress and anxiety, which came to a point that I thought somebody is chasing after me.
Once I stopped eating meat, gluten and dairy, my excessive sweating stopped completely too and I'm dry on palms and feet 95% of the time (still healing).

Now, it's not something I can or will tell my psychiatrist, it's pointless.
All they know is to medicate people. I can't convince him that diet was a major factor in my psychosis.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

For me it was eating meat and processed food.
Once I switched my diet, I'm calmer than ever.
My psychosis was involved and caused by immense stress and anxiety, which came to a point that I thought somebody is chasing after me.
Once I stopped eating meat, gluten and dairy, my excessive sweating stopped completely too and I'm dry on palms and feet 95% of the time (still healing).

Now, it's not something I can or will tell my psychiatrist, it's useless.
All they know is to medicate people. I can't convince him that diet was a major factor in my psychosis.

This is really important. New studies show that the gut biome health is a major player in mental illness. It might seem trivial, but it truly makes a big difference. I've been trying to get my own diet under more control. Very, very important. But if you live in a society that holds money-making as a virtual ethic, and in which money is power, it can be difficult to get nutritious food. Especially because most of us don't have a budget that allows for healthful eating. I guess it's an investment. It's just so easy to go for that instant-gratification in sugary, carb-loaded, fatty foods. And fast food is certainly delivered fast. If, for example, one needs to work a ridiculous amount of time to keep their head above water, the drive-through appears to be much more logical than taking a good 10+ minutes to make something actually wholesome, which again would be for a higher monetary cost. I really do think that government has not done well at fixing this crisis. Strange, too, as healthcare costs would go down significantly if our food was of better quality; I guess it's an investment that has yet, at least, to be applied well. Just some thoughts.

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

This is really important. New studies show that the gut biome health is a major player in mental illness. It might seem trivial, but it truly makes a big difference. I've been trying to get my own diet under more control. Very, very important. But if you live in a society that holds money-making as a virtual ethic, and in which money is power, it can be difficult to get nutritious food. Especially because most of us don't have a budget that allows for healthful eating. I guess it's an investment. It's just so easy to go for that instant-gratification in sugary, carb-loaded, fatty foods. And fast food is certainly delivered fast. If, for example, one needs to work a ridiculous amount of time to keep their head above water, the drive-through appears to be much more logical than taking a good 10+ minutes to make something actually wholesome, which again would be for a higher monetary cost. I really do think that government has not done well at fixing this crisis. Strange, too, as healthcare costs would go down significantly if our food was of better quality; I guess it's an investment that has yet, at least, to be applied well. Just some thoughts.

If I invest my money on something, that would definitely be my nutrition.
I guess I had enough from years of sweaty hands and feet that it's became quite easy for me to stick to my diet.
If nutrition has such a huge impact on wether somebody is sweating from their hands or not, imagine the impact it also have on mental health.
Depending on the diet, it can heal you or destroy you slowly, bad foods cause a lot of stress in the gut, and in the body overall.

 

[iridescentblack]

Had some pain at the point of injection the other day. Not sure if it was Invega-related considering it's been over 7 years since I've had it.

 

[Dreeery]

Does anyone struggle with talking to people and making conversation. Invega made me so quiet and just unable to think of things to say in a conversation except really obvious things to say. My mum and brother is so arrogant like they look down on me for being quiet and if I say something dumb they act weird

The same thing happens to me but it has improved

 

[Kaatrina]

I have a theory that when your D2 receptors are blocked the brain makes more to try and balance it out so when you recover your brain is more sensitive to dopamine then before when you fully recovered did you feel even better then pre invega?

I don't know if I can say that as a generalization. It's hard to measure life like that.

@Kaatrina would you say you feel as excited/euphoric as before the injections? Is your interest in old hobbies back?

I can feel excited and euphoric. I can feel happy anticipation & all other measurable feeling that you lose from invega.

Just thought I’d copy this note I made here; just random thoughts on what could have caused or contributed to my psychosis, some of these could apply to other people, just my personal ideas for my own situation not about psychosis in general
Processed foods
Negative cultures and people, people telling you who you are
Not expressing yourself
Inflammation
Weed/alcohol/caffeine/cigarettes/illicit drugs
Porn and masturbation and sexual overindulgence
Gut/micro biome dysfunction
Low testosterone
Bacterial overgrowth
Lack of neurogenesis ; substances, natural exposure, learning, memory exercises, achievement and awakening the inspiration to create and achieve and progress
Dopamine/glutamate/gab-a/circulation imbalance
Money problems
Social isolation
No exercise
Not breaking out of stereotype ideologies/toxic humour/insincere mocking/the lack of serious hair standing up on arms movements
No goals/structure/pleasure reward circuit dopamine
Information hyper-stimulation like media
Separation from natural environments I.e not hiking and walking in forests
Lack of events and involvement in life
Lack of courage and standing up self and intensity and own-path-ferocity and risk taking

I think it's a good list. For me personally I was experiencing grief from my brother (best friend's) death & how my family changed through that . I coped with these feelings by obsessing over conspiracy theories , which added a major undercurrent of stress and paranoia.

 

[StrawHatLuffy]

I don't know if I can say that as a generalization. It's hard to measure life like that.

I can feel excited and euphoric. I can feel happy anticipation & all other measurable feeling that you lose from invega.

I think it's a good list. For me personally I was experiencing grief from my brother (best friend's) death & how my family changed through that . I coped with these feelings by obsessing over conspiracy theories , which added a major undercurrent of stress and paranoia.

Thanks for answering. Sorry if you have been asked this many times before.

 

[StrawHatLuffy]

Here’s an interesting case I just came across:

Crippling Side Effects Induced by Paliperidone Palmitate Treatment: A Case Report

In this report, we present the case of a 20-year-old woman with schizophrenia, who had been treated with a once-monthly dosage of long-acting paliperidone palmitate due to poor adherence to oral antipsychotics. She presented to the emergency department of the Sultan Qaboos University Hospital...

www.cureus.com

 

[Kaatrina]

On the subject of hobbies , I moved recently and found an old sketchbook of mine that I was using when I was injected with invega. I thought it was interesting to see the difference in my ability after receiving the drug.

Pre-invega (2018) sketches

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I remember how much i struggled with the face in the last image. Its one of the last images i made in the sketchbook, and i didnt start drawing again yntil 3 years off invega.

these are from my figure drawing class last night :

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And before all you skeptics say invega ruined my ability, keep in mind that before I was hit with invega I had a goal to be a professional artist - I was drawing for hours per day and doing cons. I haven't been doing that again until very recently.

YES, you do recover your interests & passion for things.