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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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Invega makes it really easy to be gaslit and it can make you lose your opinions and instincts and defiance so people can sway your opinions easier and be told what things are true or untrue. I think when you have higher amounts of dopamine you are more yourself and dismiss other people who try to condition and ‘lead’ you
 
Strangeperiod said:
Invega makes it really easy to be gaslit and it can make you lose your opinions and instincts and defiance so people can sway your opinions easier and be told what things are true or untrue. I think when you have higher amounts of dopamine you are more yourself and dismiss other people who try to condition and ‘lead’ you
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Dopamine makes you handle stress and tension more easily. Debates/arguments create stress and tension, you probably also tend to avoid them because of that. When you recover more than 50% you will see big difference in stress tolerance. Willpower helps to handle stress and tension, but on invega it gets too much like x100(probably more, and yes this is not inflating at all) times harder than if you never took invega, but when you recover around 50% it drops to x1.5-2 harder to handle stress than pre invega, and your willpower which you built during experiencing this will make those x1.5-2 diminish and you will handle stress a lot lot better, stress is no longer a problem then, but rather numbness(anhedonia) with which you are left with until you recover fully.
 
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Keep in mind anhedonia will get weaker every month, in 12 months off you might be 50%(or less) recovered or fully recovered, but you will have drive to go forward when you see that progress, + it gets easier.
 
Bobskitchen said:
What month did you start feeling better
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10 months, even more in the 11th month, and still more in the 12th. Since month 10, I noticed some improvement every two weeks, before I noticed some improvement after +/- four weeks. I have been able to do much more (studying) since 10 months.

At 8/9 months of I could be more active / say a little bit more in groups.
Before month 8 I could hardly talk in groups and with difficulty with one person.
 
I feel like I have an energy spike at day 128. Energy levels have improved but I still get tired easily. Also, I don't believe in the half life theory very much. I believe that after four months enough of the poison is out of our system, and the poison was so potent that it altered our brain and desensitized the neurons that are responsible for dopamine. I don't think it's a simple dopamine receptor block, what the poison has done is more complicated than that. You just need enough of the poison to be out for your brain to fix itself, and that probably happens some time way after four months, when the poison doesn't release anymore from your muscle.
 
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Dreeery said:
And another thing, they are studying new drugs that do not block dopamine. It will take a few years to come out but some are already in phase 3. They have asked me to participate to try one that they say can be very good for negative symptoms, whether they are caused by the disease or by medication such as invega. Its mechanism of action is inverse agonism of 5ht2a and to a lesser extent of 5ht2c, from the little that I know this could remove the dopamine brake in a certain area of the brain. can be hopeful
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You shouldn't participate in those studies. There's generally mortality with newer drugs that get tested, so I'd be careful. Let them use their poisons on themselves for their research.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
That's good, the thing with this recovery is that it's a slow process.
But I believe you can expedite it by eating clean and being out in the sun.
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I don't agree. Only time works in getting rid of the poison. Eating clean is good though because the poison already makes you gain weight, so your goal should be to damage your body as little as possible until you can recover.

I've read a lot of garbage on these threads, like taking supplements such as anti-depressants or St. John's Wort. None of it works. Only time will take care of things.

A couch potato who eats like a pig also will recover because of time.
 
masamune1 said:
You shouldn't participate in those studies. There's generally mortality with newer drugs that get tested, so I'd be careful. Let them use their poisons on themselves for their research.
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Yes, you're right, but it may be that if I don't agree to participate, I miss a good opportunity and I wouldn't be able to try that drug in that case for several years. Due to the phases that it takes, it is assumed that it is safe and that it is working for those symptoms. In my mental health center there is someone who has returned to normality with a fairly remarkable recovery. But if I accept I will have to take into account the possible risks. Sorry for my english from Google translator.
 
Is there anyone here who has experienced negative symptoms without having suffered from psychosis? If so, that would show that the medication is causing these symptoms.
 
Sometimes the professionals make me doubt, I think that it is the medication that causes the symptoms, but I am not 100% sure.
 
Dreeery said:
Is there anyone here who has experienced negative symptoms without having suffered from psychosis? If so, that would show that the medication is causing these symptoms.
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I'm not going to speak for @masamune1 but I believe I remember him posting that he was forced on Invega injections with no history of psychosis.

I will let him chime in and speak on his own experiences.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
I'm not going to speak for @masamune1 but I believe I remember him posting that he was forced on Invega injections with no history of psychosis.

I will let him chime in and speak on his own experiences.
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They diagnosed me with psychosis but I wasn’t experiencing anything of that nature. The reason why I ended up in a psych ward is long and complicated. I just had a very cruel and unfair experience.
 
masamune1 said:
I don't agree. Only time works in getting rid of the poison. Eating clean is good though because the poison already makes you gain weight, so your goal should be to damage your body as little as possible until you can recover.

I've read a lot of garbage on these threads, like taking supplements such as anti-depressants or St. John's Wort. None of it works. Only time will take care of things.

A couch potato who eats like a pig also will recover because of time.
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I agree that time is the main factor in this healing journey.
When I said "eating clean", I also meant giving your body all the essential nutrients that it needs to maintain health and repair itself.
Your body actually need nutrients to get rid of Paliperidone from the brain and repair the receptors.
Therefore, eating a diet that contains most if not all essential vitamins, minerals and micronutrients will ensure faster and better recovery in my opinion.
 
Other mods and I have deleted some posts. Violence against anyone ( other members or the medical people you guys hate so much ) is not tolerated. " Killing all those motherfuckers " and other lovely posts are going to start earning points.

You can talk about invega, your recovery, the side effects and to each other but the violence has to go.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
I agree that time is the main factor in this healing journey.
When I said "eating clean", I also meant giving your body all the essential nutrients that it needs to maintain health and repair itself.
Your body actually need nutrients to get rid of Paliperidone from the brain and repair the receptors.
Therefore, eating a diet that contains most if not all essential vitamins, minerals and micronutrients will ensure faster and better recovery in my opinion.
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Yeah don’t worry about it. Eat well and healthy cause this shit is taking a toll on our body.
 
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